Could the Uchiha in the past have possibly controlled all the bijuu?

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I believe the bijuu were tools for the Uchihas.

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When it comes to controlling bijuus Uchihas seem to have no problems.

It's possible in the past more Uchihas have controlled the bijuu.

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Bijuu like human holds chakra inside their body. Genjutsu effecting chakra flow to control the victim senses.

Bijuu was entirely a chakra base entity

The thing that hindering average Uchihas to control Bijuu was chakra level/pool.

They can put them inside Genjutsu but to control them is another matter
 
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No, only people with the power of MS can control tailed beasts and no Uchiha had MS until Madara's era. Sasuke is the exception because his chakra was already as strong as Uchiha that awakened Mangekyo due to being a transmigrant.
 

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That's the reason why danzo was afraid of them, eh?

OT. Idk really, the uchiha who have controlled a bijuu were very exceptional. Idk if an average uchiha can do it.
 

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Bijuu like human holds chakra inside their body. Genjutsu effecting chakra flow to control the victim senses.

Bijuu was entirely a chakra base entity

The thing that hindering average Uchihas to control Bijuu was chakra level/pool.

They can put them inside Genjutsu but to control them is another matter

Nope, only people with the eye power of MS users can control bijuu and no Uchiha before Madara had a Mangekyo.
 

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No, only people with the power of MS can control tailed beasts and no Uchiha had MS until Madara's era. Sasuke is the exception because his chakra was already as strong as Uchiha that awakened Mangekyo due to being a transmigrant.

Madara projecting tomoes Sharingan on Kyuubi and not MS.

I dont know how you can come to that idea. The reason Uchiha never make an attempt to control any Bijuu bcus they never need them/felt the need. Even Sasuke after gaining MS never think about controlling any Bijuu at first

Controlling a Bijuu is same as creating a Golem/PS/Shinnsuusenju. Uchiha need large amount of chakra to control them. Weak and low chakra level is not sufficient. It demanding.

Not all Uchiha were blessed with Large and strong chakra like Indra's Transmigrant.

Even DB never said MS but just a sharingan.

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Madara projecting tomoes Sharingan on Kyuubi and not MS.

Madara had already awakened MS by the time he controlled Kurama, logically his 3T Sharingan would also be stronger due to the chakra powering his eyes

I dont know how you can come to that idea. The reason Uchiha never make an attempt to control any Bijuu bcus they never need them/felt the need. Even Sasuke after gaining MS never think about controlling any Bijuu at first

They were never able to defeat Senju so they obviously would've used a bijuu if they had a chance. The tablet explains that MS is needed to control the bijuu and no one attempted to do so until Madara who had a Mangekyo.

Controlling a Bijuu is same as creating a Golem/PS/Shinnsuusenju. Uchiha need large amount of chakra to control them. Weak chakra is not sufficient. It demanding.

Genjutsu doesn't depend on chakra reserves it depends on chakra potency, the stronger the persons chakra the stronger their eyes which results in them having stronger genjutsu. When Kurama's will was suppressed by Sasuke he specifically mentioned the potency of his chakra being as strong as Madara.

Uchiha with MS have the potency required to control Kurama, Sasuke was the exception because he was destined to surpass Madara from a young age, Orochimaru noted how his eyes were stronger than Itachi's even though he was just a genin.

Even DB never said MS but just a sharingan.

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Madara had already awakened MS by the time he controlled Kurama, logically his 3T Sharingan would also be stronger due to the chakra powering his eyes

Agree with his 3T Sharingan

They were never able to defeat Senju so they obviously would've used a bijuu if they had a chance. The tablet explains that MS is needed to control the bijuu and no one attempted to do so until Madara who had a Mangekyo.

The scan you you bring here. It not stated anything about MS, just blindness. And Uchiha's Sharingan was known to have that problem.

Sasuke said "blindness" only. Thats mean if used extensivel/heavily and especially to control a Bijuu even 3 tomoes can goes blind bcus sheer power it demands to control Bijuu.

Like you said above Madara as Indra's Transmigrant had very strong and large chakra reserve compare to average Uchiha.

Genjutsu doesn't depend on chakra reserves it depends on chakra potency, the stronger the persons chakra the stronger their eyes which results in them having stronger genjutsu. When Kurama's will was suppressed by Sasuke he specifically mentioned the potency of his chakra being as strong as Madara.

I said to control Bijuu it same as to created Golem/PS/Shinsuusenju where you need large and strong chakra also where Average Uchiha doesnt have.

I know Genjutsu is related to chakra potency.

Uchiha with MS have the potency required to control Kurama, Sasuke was the exception because he was destined to surpass Madara from a young age, Orochimaru noted how his eyes were stronger than Itachi's even though he was just a genin.
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Uchiha with large and high chakra potency can put Bijuu in Genjutsu and control them easily. Only select few.
 

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3 tomoe suppress bijuu chakra, not control it. the only exception are the people black zetsu tampered with, and mangekyo sharingan users can control them.
 

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Needs ms but anime can do it
 

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Not sure, although I'm slightly doubtful. Madara or someone of madara's level would be able to. However it seemed there was not anyone of that caliber, until madara came around.
 

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Bijuu like human holds chakra inside their body. Genjutsu effecting chakra flow to control the victim senses.

Bijuu was entirely a chakra base entity

The thing that hindering average Uchihas to control Bijuu was chakra level/pool.

They can put them inside Genjutsu but to control them is another matter

3 tomoe suppress bijuu chakra, not control it. the only exception are the people black zetsu tampered with, and mangekyo sharingan users can control them.

I think Sasuke can control the bijuu with only 3 tomoe since Sasuke is another Madara. His chakra is powerful.
 

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I think Sasuke can control the bijuu with only 3 tomoe since Sasuke is another Madara. His chakra is powerful.

Not without senju dna he can't. The only time we've seen madara control the kyuubi is when he already had access eternal mangekyo.
For now, 3 tomoe suppresses bijuu chakra.
 

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Not without senju dna he can't. The only time we've seen madara control the kyuubi is when he already had access eternal mangekyo.
For now, 3 tomoe suppresses bijuu chakra.

whenever a bijuu was controlled, all the uchiha needed was a 3 tomoe sharingan.
 

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Not sure, although I'm slightly doubtful. Madara or someone of madara's level would be able to. However it seemed there was not anyone of that caliber, until madara came around.

I agree with this.
 
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