could Sasuke without Sharingan beat Naruto without Kurama?????????????????????????

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Great discussion. :elmo:

 

[NarutoX28]

No because they'd still be equals.

EMS Sasuke is the equivalent of BM Naruto.

Factor in their Rikudou Powers Up and we have Tomoe Rinnegan Sasuke = BM + RSM Naruto. Remove Sasuke's Sharingan and Kurama from Naruto and we'd have Rinnegan Sasuke (w/o EMS) = RSM Naruto (w/o BM). They'd still be equals regardless.

 

[To Whatever]

No because they'd still be equals.

EMS Sasuke is the equivalent of BM Naruto.

Factor in their Rikudou Powers Up and we have Tomoe Rinnegan Sasuke = BM + RSM Naruto. Remove Sasuke's Sharingan and Kurama from Naruto and we'd have Rinnegan Sasuke (w/o EMS) = RSM Naruto (w/o BM). They'd still be equals regardless.

Does it matter which pieces of shit is better? Both characters are trash.

 

[BLAZE]

depends on many other factors

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Well Madara had sensing abilities thanks to absorbing Hashi's sage mode and that's why he was able to fight even in his condition. Sasuke do not any sage mode. So there, your logic is flawed again.

I never said Sasuke would fight Naruto with his eyes closed? Why would he? The OP take away his Sharingan, not his eye sight.

And what makes you think base Sasuke could speed blitz SM Naruto?

You put words in my mouth again. I never said Sasuke would speed blitz Naruto in SM. I said he would speed blitz him before he even had the chance to enter Sage Mode.

Did you forget how Naruto made a fool of the third Raikage who is faster than base Sasuke.

Naruto was in KCM.

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And why say base Sasuke? The Sharingan doesn't increase his speed. He's just as fast in base as he is with the Sharingan activated. The Sharingan gives him superb perception.

If Sasuke ever tries blitzing Naruto then he gets rasenganed and genjutsu won't work on SM Naruto as he'd simply break out of it by disturbing his own chakra with NE. So keep dreaming.

Your whole premise was proven wrong. You claimed SM Naruto could dodge Sasuke's Speed Blitz based on his KCM feats. And even if you were right and he had dodge the Raikage in SM. That still doesn't overcome the point i made about Sasuke speed blitzing him before he enters Sage Mode.

Why would i mention Genjutsu in this conversation when it's about Sasuke without the Sharingan Vs Naruto without the Kyuubi? Lol.

Well, since you brought it up, Sasuke could cast Genjutsu on Naruto before Naruto enters SM, and your point about NE would only work if Naruto has another clone in SM and releases it so the chakra goes back to the original.

Naruto wouldn't have all this time to create a clone, and have it gather NE while he does. Or do you believe Sasuke would stand there and do nothing until Naruto finished gathering NE with his clone?

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Your first mistake is to assume Naruto would have lived to obtain Sage Mode without Kurama.

OT: Stalemate. Without Sharingan, he still has Superior Speed, and adept battle skills. Without Kurama, we have the same Naruto who was stomped by Hebi Sasuke @ the Hideout, with slightly raised stats and a double edged jutsu.

 

[minamoto]

great discussion. :elmo:

thx bro...

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Your first mistake is to assume Naruto would have lived to obtain Sage Mode without Kurama.

OT: Stalemate. Without Sharingan, he still has Superior Speed, and adept battle skills. Without Kurama, we have the same Naruto who was stomped by Hebi Sasuke @ the Hideout, with slightly raised stats and a double edged jutsu.

you missed the last naruto?...or is this shippuden?