could Sasuke without Sharingan beat Naruto without Kurama?????????????????????????

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This thread is dumb. Sharingan is Sasuke's own power, he was born with it. Without his Sharingan, there is no Sasuke. On the other hand, Kurama's powers are Kurama's, not Naruto's. Naruto depends on another being in order to be strong, while Sasuke doesn't.

There is no such thing as Sasuke without Sharingan, but Naruto could easily exist without Kurama.
 
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again, nice fanfic.

8gates speed > minato reaction and ay's speed.

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And when did I ever say Minato is going to fight Gai directly? Never.
Minato knowd about the 8 Gates transformation and he'd FTG away to some far off pre marked location the moment he sees red steam coming out of Gai's body and before Gai even makes the decision to attack. Gai would die once the gate ends while Minato lived to fight another day.
 

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This thread is dumb. Sharingan is Sasuke's own power, he was born with it. Without his Sharingan, there is no Sasuke. On the other hand, Kurama's powers are Kurama's, not Naruto's. Naruto depends on another being in order to be strong, while Sasuke doesn't.

There is no such thing as Sasuke without Sharingan, but Naruto could easily exist without Kurama.

True tbh with Itachi dead no one is powerful enough to take Sasuke's eyes. Not even Naruto who could at best only manage a stalemate despite MC plotshield. :hmm:
 

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Wait is the fight starting in 8 gates? Why cant minato start in sm then. What's the scenario here?

ugh, wish kidgamer was here, he knows how all that shit works with react speed comparison. can minato awakening SM before guy goes gates and blitz? if not, there is no way base minato is reacting to guy's speed in time to S/T. that is what daedalus guy was talking about before in the other thread.
 

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Nooooooo.

The reason is quite simple - sasuke without sharingan cant keep up with sage mode naruto.
 
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You didn't read properly.
How does me agreeing with Wild's statement about him going mad makes me less credible? imo he did go mad if you read his previous posts.
As for Naruto vs Sasuke, Minamoto (he admitted this) never specified time frame or which Naruto and Sasuke, yet this guy is "certain" that it's the forms he is thinking of. (reading mind? don't think so).
In the discussion with him I never mentioned Naruto or Sasuke, lol

It's his way of expressing himself. If he doesn't agree with somebody to debate them he will add "kid". It's his way of talking I guess. He isn't mad, just exposing some trolls. Get to know him in this forum and you'll get what I mean. He is debating for Sasuke and when time frame is unknown to make this debate interesting he is using Adult Sasuke. It calls for a better argument tbh. I don't see a problem in that. There is no fun if you can entertain people in a thread.
should just call minato the yellow *** then. running away scared from guy. lmao
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I like that expression when Itachi put him in his place. (You know what fan art I am talking about)
 

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Lets make it to 10 pages folks
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LMAO... Sasuke waaay faster than SM Naruto.

SM Naruto got blitzed by a Blind Madara!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Its not your fault. You were vague enough for them to assume you meant the versions they saw in their head..

And rather ask for specifics they started bashing each other

everything is going as Tobidara planned! :

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This thread is dumb. Sharingan is Sasuke's own power, he was born with it. Without his Sharingan, there is no Sasuke. On the other hand, Kurama's powers are Kurama's, not Naruto's. Naruto depends on another being in order to be strong, while Sasuke doesn't.

There is no such thing as Sasuke without Sharingan, but Naruto could easily exist without Kurama.

welcome to teh ignorelist VulpinBobi :

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welcome to teh ignorelist VulpinBobi :

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nice fanfic, i know you would never put me on teh ignorelist bro!!!!!!!!
 

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ugh, wish kidgamer was here, he knows how all that shit works with react speed comparison. can minato awakening SM before guy goes gates and blitz? if not, there is no way base minato is reacting to guy's speed in time to S/T. that is what daedalus guy was talking about before in the other thread.

So gai starts in base like minato. Ok cool. We've established that. Now it takes prep to enter 8 gates at that time minato. Ftgs away. Simple.

It is a coward way to fight but when your opponent uses a suicidal tech these measures must be taken
 

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So gai starts in base like minato. Ok cool. We've established that. Now it takes prep to enter 8 gates at that time minato. Ftgs away. Simple.

It is a coward way to fight but when your opponent uses a suicidal tech these measures must be taken

i guess
 

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Well of course Naruto would take the bout cause Sasuke's abilities come from his doujutsu. (It's all copy paste) SM is not to be taken lightly no matter which SM you'd have.

(Not just SM but what comes with it & that's summoning of sages. Nerfing Uzumaki is really real)
 

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The Kyuubi is an entire other living entity. The Sharingan is Sasuke's natural power which he inherited from his bloodline, and had to awaken. If you're going to take away what Sasuke inherited from his bloodline then you should to the same for Naruto. Which means you take away the massive amounts of chakra and great stamina he inherited from being an Uzumaki, and unlike the Sharingan, he didn't have to awaken it.

Without this he couldn't make as many Shadow Clones that he did, which means learning Rasengan, and Rasenshuriken would be much harder. He needed the aid of thousands of clones to gain knowledge and experience faster so he could learn RS in a short amount of time, otherwise it could/would take years. Also, he likely wouldn't have mastered Sage Mode, and he couldn't be the Jin to the Kyuubi either
 

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It's pretty much a laughable neg diff in Naruto's favor.
 

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The Kyuubi is an entire other living entity. The Sharingan is Sasuke's natural power which he inherited from his bloodline, and had to awaken. If you're going to take away what Sasuke inherited from his bloodline then you should to the same for Naruto. Which means you take away the massive amounts of chakra and great stamina he inherited from being an Uzumaki, and unlike the Sharingan, he didn't have to awaken it.

Without this he couldn't make as many Shadow Clones that he did, which means learning Rasengan, and Rasenshuriken would be much harder. He needed the aid of thousands of clones to gain knowledge and experience faster so he could learn RS in a short amount of time, otherwise it could/would take years. Also, he likely wouldn't have mastered Sage Mode, and he couldn't be the Jin to the Kyuubi either
This is Sage Mode Naruto. This is just a blind Madara no Sage Mode:

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This SM Naruto getting blown away by an attack while Sasuke just stands right in the middle of it:
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Sasuke would run circles over Naruto.
 

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This is Sage Mode Naruto. This is just a blind Madara no Sage Mode:

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This SM Naruto getting blown away by an attack while Sasuke just stands right in the middle of it:
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Sasuke would run circles over Naruto.


Sasuke would defeat Naruto before he even has the chance to enter Sage Mode. Remember when he speed blitzed him at the beginning of Part Two?

This/the next two pages.



Maybe they think Sasuke would stand there and let Naruto sit down for a minute to gather Nature Energy. Or they're continueing to give Naruto advantages. Letting him keep his genetics, and have prep time to start the battle off in Sage Mode.
Regardless, Sasuke wins.

Base Sasuke can easily defeat SM Naruto. Sharingan Sasuke even easier with with Genjutsu. Since he has no Bijuu to save him.
 

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Sasuke would defeat Naruto before he even has the chance to enter Sage Mode. Remember when he speed blitzed him at the beginning of Part Two?

This/the next two pages.



Maybe they think Sasuke would stand there and let Naruto sit down for a minute to gather Nature Energy. Or they're continueing to give Naruto advantages. Letting him keep his genetics, and have prep time to start the battle off in Sage Mode.
Regardless, Sasuke wins.

Base Sasuke can easily defeat SM Naruto. Sharingan Sasuke even easier with with Genjutsu. Since he has no Bijuu to save him.

Well Madara had sensing abilities thanks to absorbing Hashi's sage mode and that's why he was able to fight even in his condition. Sasuke do not any sage mode. So there, your logic is flawed again.
And what makes you think base Sasuke could speed blitz SM Naruto? Did you forget how Naruto made a fool of the third Raikage who is faster than base Sasuke. If Sasuke ever tries blitzing Naruto then he gets rasenganed and genjutsu won't work on SM Naruto as he'd simply break out of it by disturbing his own chakra with NE. So keep dreaming.
 
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