Could Itachi have taken on Hiruzen?

[CommonSense]

Itachi beats Hiruzen even in his prime. There is no way he is on the speed level to dodge Amaterasu and he can't absorb it, so he dies.

 

[Kages]

That's why I said presence. Iruka is retarded compared to Madara. Therefore, it is CLEARLY much more evident to side with the one who is clearly smarter and knowledgeable. Therefore, for all these reasons, Itachi>Hiruzen. I'm really not down to debate anymore. I just see it impossible for him to lose. It's my opinion and I will forever stick to it, unless more info is revealed in the future manga.

Nope your arguement is invalid

 

[Kages]

You know, you can move while you are burned by Amaterasu. They never said Enma can get through Amaterasu. That part is assuming Yata Mirror is weaker than diamond. Most of this is just assuming, as we know very little of Hiruzen

Hiruzen>Hashirama. That's all you need to know

 

[Blaze Release]

Lol stupid fanboy. His speed was 3 when he was old. In his prime he was probably 5. Enma soloes

Hey calm down, besides are you not the person who thought i closed their thread and - repped me. :flaw:

Hiruzen has a 5 in everything but Strength, Speed, and Stamina. Strength- he found Enma to be heavy Stamina- Anbu stated he doesnt have enough chakra Speed- Old age. They would all be 5's in my book if he was in his prime

Its true Prime Hiruzen could potentially gain 5's all across the fields however that isn't cannon and tbh i disagree. Prime Hiruzen would be strong however a 5 in base, i doubt and the same can be said about speed, not that the person with a better score in the DB automatically wins a match up.

Anyway, who know's what the outcome would be.
Btw this is in the wrong section and also the op is too vague, imposing implications help, something that nb lack when they create a vs thread

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

His chakra is garbage? Go take a deep look at his fight with Sasuke, while he was dying sick already,

Here is what he has done

Genjutsu(s)
Crow clone
Tsukuyomi
Katon Fireball
Katon Fireball
Amaterasu 1
Amaterasu 2
Released Amaterasu
Susano 1 (tanked Kirin)
Susano 2 (Spawned it again when he stood up)
Sealed an Amaterasu inside Sasuke


Old Hiruzen would get ****ed so bad it's rediculous... the man was dying from creating two freaking clones and spitting fire and earth.

sasuke huh .... :sy: and you compare the katon level of itachi and hiruzen, don't respond please, sealed an materasu inside sasuke huh ?? that hall fight was basically a plot (am dying but still i have to live to give sasuke what will keep him alive).

 

[Shikamaru1994]

Nope your arguement is invalid

Lol......... this is when we ALL see that you have given up and that you have no way of defending your petty little hiruzen. He cannot beat Itachi, face it and accept it. It'll be better that way.

 

[Omnipotent]

You know, you can move while you are burned by Amaterasu. They never said Enma can get through Amaterasu. That part is assuming Yata Mirror is weaker than diamond. Most of this is just assuming, as we know very little of Hiruzen

Yes, he can move while being burned to death.

So you admit that what you're saying is nothing more than your assumptions, yet you call us fanboys for disagreeing with you?

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[Kages]

Hey calm down, besides are you not the person who thought i closed their thread and - repped me. :flaw:



Its true Prime Hiruzen could potentially gain 5's all across the fields however that isn't cannon and tbh i disagree. Prime Hiruzen would be strong however a 5 in base, i doubt and the same can be said about speed, not that the person with a better score in the DB automatically wins a match up.

Anyway, who know's what the outcome would be.
Btw this is in the wrong section and also the op is too vague, imposing implications help, something that nb lack when they create a vs thread

True

 

[insid3rkil3r]

Hiruzen has a 5 in everything but Strength, Speed, and Stamina. Strength- he found Enma to be heavy Stamina- Anbu stated he doesnt have enough chakra Speed- Old age. They would all be 5's in my book if he was in his prime

Bitch please, Ooniki is still rocking at like 90ish years old, Danzo was 72 if im correct, and he was Sarutobi's rival yet he shitted himself when he saw a mere Itachi ghost for 2 seconds perhaps thinking he was about to get Tsukuyomi'd.

Prime Sarutobi would be physically superior, but to what extent exactly, no one knows.

And that doesnt change the nature of his jutsu at all.... the guy knows a lot of jutsu.... but can he still meet the level of Itachi's high end Ninjutsu and Genjutsu?

Itachi has 5 everywhere but Taijutsu (4.5), strength (3.5) and stamina (2.5)... and giving how many times Itachi can use his mangekyo in a dying state.... i wonder how many Tsukuyomis and Amaterasus Hiruzen will be able to save himself from.

One's 5 doesnt mean it equals to an other.

Proof ; Itachi whooped Kureinai's 5 in genjutsu like it was a walk in the park.

Itachi whooped Orochimaru's 5 in genjutsu when he was a mere child.




Edit ; Stop saying Itachi vs Oro doesnt count... Oro wasnt weaked and even if he was..... here it is for fun's sake.

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Itachi is superior to Oro no matter how you look at it.... wether he is 13 years old, 56.... Itachi is stronger than the Oro that defeated Old Hiruzen who had to commit suicide in order to loose not to the extent that he did.

 

[Kages]

Lol......... this is when we ALL see that you have given up and that you have no way of defending your petty little hiruzen. He cannot beat Itachi, face it and accept it. It'll be better that way.

Your arguement is invalid. Let go of your petty weak disgusting little Itachi. You cant say that just because someone is stronger, and says something good about a person. That totally makes them instantly stronger than the other person

 

[Blaze Release]

True

Anyway if its old hiruzen, base itachi rips his head off and shits down his neck

 

[Kages]

Yes, he can move while being burned to death.

So you admit that what you're saying is nothing more than your assumptions, yet you call us fanboys for disagreeing with you?

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Assuming he knows every technique of Konoha, he can use Fire Seal thing that Jiraiya used. If he can move, he can summon it. If he can summon it, then it gets sealed. There you go

 

[Kages]

Bitch please, Ooniki is still rocking at like 90ish years old, Danzo was 72 if im correct, and he was Sarutobi's rival yet he shitted himself when he saw a mere Itachi ghost for 2 seconds perhaps thinking he was about to get Tsukuyomi'd.

Prime Sarutobi would be physically superior, but to what extent exactly, no one knows.

And that doesnt change the nature of his jutsu at all.... the guy knows a lot of jutsu.... but can he still meet the level of Itachi's high end Ninjutsu and Genjutsu?

Itachi has 5 everywhere but Taijutsu (4.5), strength (3.5) and stamina (2.5)... and giving how many times Itachi can use his mangekyo in a dying state.... i wonder how many Tsukuyomis and Amaterasus Hiruzen will be able to save himself from.

One's 5 doesnt mean it equals to an other.

Proof ; Itachi whooped Kureinai's 5 in genjutsu like it was a walk in the park.

Itachi whooped Orochimaru's 5 in genjutsu when he was a mere child.




Edit ; Stop saying Itachi vs Oro doesnt count... Oro wasnt weaked and even if he was..... here it is for fun's sake.

You must be registered for see links

Itachi is superior to Oro no matter how you look at it.... wether he is 13 years old, 56.... Itachi is stronger than the Oro that defeated Old Hiruzen who had to commit suicide in order to loose not to the extent that he did.

Danzo didnt become Hokage last time I checked. Hiruzen did. Hiruzen>Danzo.

 

[CommonSense]

Hey calm down, besides are you not the person who thought i closed their thread and - repped me. :flaw:



Its true Prime Hiruzen could potentially gain 5's all across the fields however that isn't cannon and tbh i disagree. Prime Hiruzen would be strong however a 5 in base, i doubt and the same can be said about speed, not that the person with a better score in the DB automatically wins a match up.

Anyway, who know's what the outcome would be.
Btw this is in the wrong section and also the op is too vague, imposing implications help, something that nb lack when they create a vs thread

I did it to get it hot. It's easy to manipulate people, I think I might go for a third one tonight.

 

[Shikamaru1994]

Your arguement is invalid. Let go of your petty weak disgusting little Itachi. You cant say that just because someone is stronger, and says something good about a person. That totally makes them instantly stronger than the other person

Lol you haven't brought up a single good point whereas I have brought up plenty. Look at this thread. so many people disagree with you. Maybe it's a sign? too many fanboys? maybe. But it's more probable that Itachi MIGHT OMG JUST MIGHT, be stronger and better than hiruzen.

 

[Omnipotent]

Assuming he knows every technique of Konoha, he can use Fire Seal thing that Jiraiya used. If he can move, he can summon it. If he can summon it, then it gets sealed. There you go

Didn't I just say that Hiruzen doesn't carry the scrolls with him like Jiraiya does? How can he summon it without the sealing paper/scroll? How can he summon it when it's all over his body? How can he summon it when he's dying?

So, once again, you admit that what you're saying is nothing more than your assumptions, yet you call us fanboys for disagreeing with you? I love that logic

 

[Blaze Release]

I did it to get it hot. It's easy to manipulate people, I think I might go for a third one tonight.

Yes i saw your kimimaro thread where you compared him with ms sasuke, but troll thread deserved troll response so i uploaded a page where kabuto asks who is stronger, between part 1, two tomoe sharingan sasuke and kimimaro. Only difference is that, you replied back with a response i ignored you

 

[Kages]

Lol you haven't brought up a single good point whereas I have brought up plenty. Look at this thread. so many people disagree with you. Maybe it's a sign? too many fanboys? maybe. But it's more probable that Itachi MIGHT OMG JUST MIGHT, be stronger and better than hiruzen.

Not when he is bowing down to Hiruzen. Most people that agreed with you are Itachi fanboys or Hiruzen haters. Just let the old man rest in peace.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Lol......... this is when we ALL see that you have given up and that you have no way of defending your petty little hiruzen. He cannot beat Itachi, face it and accept it. It'll be better that way.

am curious, how do people even consider him on hiruzen's level ?? unless you like to turn these fights to chess games and see this attack and counter forgetting that you ain't the characters (you also talk as if hiruzen will be on the defence the entire fight). i really wana know why you even think itachi has a chance against a PRIME hiruzen ?? itachi wasn't even said to be the strongest of anything, not the strongest of the akatsuki, not the strongest of konoha, ran from jiraiya, picked up on a weakened oro, and his true fight was against sasuke, i mean come on he is nothing compared to hiruzen.

 

[insid3rkil3r]

sasuke huh .... :sy: and you compare the katon level of itachi and hiruzen, don't respond please, sealed an materasu inside sasuke huh ?? that hall fight was basically a plot (am dying but still i have to live to give sasuke what will keep him alive).

Sarutobi's Katon... oh please..... like this is gonna harm Itachi...... Old Hiruzen should rather save it for somethinig more useless as he has enough chakra to pop two clones, summon Emna and that is pretty much it.


And plot is now involved and backing Itachi?


please...

Plot protection was created to make Sarutobi defeat Hashirama lol....


And how did Itachi's amaterasu keep Sasuke alive??? All that sealed Amaterasu did was attempt to kill Obito to shut his mouth off in order to prevent him from speaking of Itachi's life.... Are you following the manga buddy? Sasuke awoke his Mangekyo... it wasnt Itachi's gift lol..... Itachi's poked Amaterasu was a ONE SHOT DEAL