could hagoromo seal himself alone against kaguya now if he would be alive?

[Rikudou11]

Hello, everyone

correct me if im wrong
first of all
Kaguya vs Non-jinchuuriki Hagoromo + Non-jinchuuriki Haruma
They sealed her and hagoromo became Jinchuuriki. Later, he wasnt jinchuuriki anymore because of splitting, etc.

kaguya reborns someday. Naruto and Sasuke can handle it, because they only got from non-jinchuuriki hagoromo power (why non jinchuuriki? doesnt have itself tailed beasts anymore). so, it means non-jinchuuriki hagoromo doesnt really need help from haruma if he fights against kaguya again or did i miss something point? :wut:

PS: title -> if he were still alive*:T_T:

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

She just puts him in the gravity dimension and ash bones the shit out of him. :bdpf:

 

[Gerkak]

Hogoromo and hamura never fought kaguya like naruto and sasuke did, rather they fought the juubi which is inferior to kaguya.

inb4 people claim I am saying hogoromo isn't as powerful as sasuke+naruto

 

[Calpal]

iim sorry, but wat?

 

[Nick01]

Not sure.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Hagoromo already admitted inferiority.

 

[VongolaX]

No I don't think so.

Being a jinchuuriki or not has nothing to do with using the power of the Yin and Yang seals to seal up Kaguya.
Him and his brother were powerful enough to engage in combat with their mother together, but the seals power was the biggest factor.
Using two bodies against one is a lot harder than just dealing with one body.

 

[Angelic.]

what

 

[Rikudou11]

what

iim sorry, but wat?

Kaguya vs Hagoromo+Haruma
They sealed her.

Later,
Kaguya vs Naruto+Sasuke
They sealed her too but guess what? They got power from Hagoromo only. So it looks hagoromo could seal her alone without haruma's help now... get it now?

Sorry for my bad english

what do you guys think can hagoromo do it alone without haruma's help now or still impossible?

@Majin Solidus
ok XD

@Gerkak
So, it was juubi? i though it was kaguya because of that panel chapter 690 / Pages 4 from Mangapanda.com but i have to admit that i cant see if its kaguya or juubi from that panel - thank you

@Nick01
me too^^

@Lord Seventh
yeah he did. ^^

@VongolaX
Interesting. Thank you for explaining!

 

[NarutoX28]

Hagoromo had access to both sealing techniques, but he was inferior to Kaguya based on Rikudou's Affirmation, and Kaguya became even stronger due to the chakra received from IT, so likely not.

 

[ROHAN]

The Kaguya that Hagoromo and Hamura fought was way stronger than the Kaguya, Naruto and Sasuke fought. The Kaguya that Hagoromo and Hamura fought was Prime/Full Power Kaguya (Merging with the Shinju increased her powers even more, it didn't dilute them and Kaguya was in complete control of the Juubi).

After Kaguya was defeated by Hagoromo and Hamura, a vast majority of her chakra was distributed and spread out by Hagoromo to all humans. When Kaguya was revived, her first objective was to regain her lost powers through Mugen Tsukuyomi. By that point, Kaguya was still weak, so Naruto and Sasuke were able to seal her away.

So, Prime/Full Power Kaguya can only be sealed away by both Hagoromo and Hamura. But her weakened form can be sealed away by Hagoromo only.

This thread gives a nice explanation on that :

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Conclusion
The Kaguya we saw fighting against Team 7 was strong, unbelievably strong. But she was nowhere near her prime, in-fact she was millions of millions of times weaker than she originally was. (Lacking a huge amount of chakra.)

 

[Rikudou11]

The Kaguya that Hagoromo and Hamura fought was way stronger than the Kaguya, Naruto and Sasuke fought. The Kaguya that Hagoromo and Hamura fought was Prime/Full Power Kaguya (Merging with the Shinju increased her powers even more, it didn't dilute them and Kaguya was in complete control of the Juubi).

After Kaguya was defeated by Hagoromo and Hamura, a vast majority of her chakra was distributed and spread out by Hagoromo to all humans. When Kaguya was revived, her first objective was to regain her lost powers through Mugen Tsukuyomi. By that point, Kaguya was still weak, so Naruto and Sasuke were able to seal her away.

So, Prime/Full Power Kaguya can only be sealed away by both Hagoromo and Hamura. But her weakened form can be sealed away by Hagoromo only.

This thread gives a nice explanation on that :

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Thank you for great Explanation!

 

[giostep]

The Kaguya that Hagoromo and Hamura fought was way stronger than the Kaguya, Naruto and Sasuke fought. The Kaguya that Hagoromo and Hamura fought was Prime/Full Power Kaguya (Merging with the Shinju increased her powers even more, it didn't dilute them and Kaguya was in complete control of the Juubi).

After Kaguya was defeated by Hagoromo and Hamura, a vast majority of her chakra was distributed and spread out by Hagoromo to all humans. When Kaguya was revived, her first objective was to regain her lost powers through Mugen Tsukuyomi. By that point, Kaguya was still weak, so Naruto and Sasuke were able to seal her away.

So, Prime/Full Power Kaguya can only be sealed away by both Hagoromo and Hamura. But her weakened form can be sealed away by Hagoromo only.

This thread gives a nice explanation on that :

You must be registered for see links

This explination blows and it doesnt make sense.

Chakra while originating with Kaguya and the fruit, is not her invention. What I read was something like this. Imagine we have a Jug of water (Kaguya), that jug pours half of its contents into 2 Cups (Sages). Simple right. The two cups = the one jug now. Lets go further. Speaking for only one of the cups (Hago). It half if its contents into 2 cups (his sons). They then pour there contents into multiple cups (all other ninja). So this means that all the water originated from the jug (Kaguya). But one of the last cups to receive water (one of the ninja) uses 99% of its contents, but that content refills back over time. Where did that contents come from? If the container reproduced that contents then the same can be said for all other containers right? The cup is not the originator of its contents but can self refill its contents.

What im trying to say above is that If Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi, Madara, Tobirama, or any other ninja can "refill" on chakra by resting, waiting, eating, sleeping, and just being alive why isnt the same for Kaguya? All the fruit did was give Kaguya and her spawn the ability to make chakra, or the chakra is able to duplicate itself just like cells can. This would make perfect sense, since it seems that the further back you go up the chakra tree the chakra is stronger.

If my above logic is correct in nature then Kaguya was no weaker vs Naruto+ Sasuke, than she was vs Hamura+ Hago. In fact Naruto and Sasuke were only able to survive becuase they had chakra that was closer to the original than other ninja.

My issue with the other theory is that it assumes that Chakra is fixed an finite, when in fact it is not fixed or finite as long as there is a vessel to contain it, and has the ability to contain it. Kaguya would have taken all the chakra because she would have effectively plugged into all the sources of chakra. Also the fruit nor kaguya were the originators of chakra as there are multiple dimensions and different ways to get chakra, Nature had its own chakra. The fruit may have just been the way to transmit the ability to gain chakra by people.

My2Cents. Bring on the Flame i guess...