Could Gaara kill anyone?

USSJ Future Trunks

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Nov 15, 2011
Messages
18,518
Reaction score
1,067
ever been at the beach? and got sand in your eyes? hurts right?

sasori with magnetite was able to make it fine and small enough to block puppet joints. gaara has shown to be able to briefly become sand and shunshin to a new location,then reform himself.
so if gaara makes his sand fine enough, he can create a massive sandstorm, blind the opponent then put sand inside their holes (hardy har har), blocking off breathing, vision and hearing.

only reason he hasnt done this or the tactic where he buries you a hundred feet underground, is because hes a good guy and it would be too OP. but that doesnt mean its not well within the realms of his capabillity. it shouldnt even take that long to do with just his gourd sand if he can make it fine enough to be invisible to the naked eye.

its no problem for gaara to control surrounding sand, or make more with his gourd sand. deidara implied the regular sand he controls doesnt have chakra in it. so doujutsu users are powerless to see whats about to happen to them and their oxygen.

only sasori and edos are immune to it.

and imagine if 4th kazekage could construct his gold as efficiently as his son does to sand. with magnet release, the 4th just might become the most OP character.
 
Last edited:

Booker

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Jan 23, 2013
Messages
8,352
Reaction score
958
This, is logic.

Alas, most won't accept this answer because it's out of character for Gaara to do. But yes, he has the potential to be top 3 with this sort of technique.
 

Gaara

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Jan 4, 2013
Messages
7,287
Reaction score
150
Gaara owns without it.
 

paratise

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Feb 28, 2013
Messages
16,197
Reaction score
1,899
It would be op...
But this would make sense.
 

Momo86

Member
Joined
Dec 28, 2012
Messages
330
Reaction score
40
Gaara is barely in top 20 or lower. Face it and leave it at that.
 

Long Haired Leaf Ninja

Banned
Regular
Joined
Mar 22, 2013
Messages
515
Reaction score
26
Gaara is barely in top 20 or lower. Face it and leave it at that.

Man I guess we don't read the same manga.
Garra is top 20 easy.
Name me 20 characters that are better? And don't make it the same character with just different versions. Example being bm naruto and sm naruto:
 

Momo86

Member
Joined
Dec 28, 2012
Messages
330
Reaction score
40
Man I guess we don't read the same manga.
Garra is top 20 easy.
Name me 20 characters that are better? And don't make it the same character with just different versions. Example being bm naruto and sm naruto:

I guess not. I read some manga called Naruto. I bet the manga you're reading is interesting too.

Gaara is my favorite character among the "good guys" but his powers clearly don't match most of the competitors. He being among the 30 strongest shinobi in existance already makes him a powerhouse, he just doesn't match many of the main fighters in the story. I'd love him to stand out more and develop more and more powers but he just doesn't.

Here, a quick top 30:

1. Madara 40 Kishi says he “has no weak points”
2. Hashirama 40 Clearly can keep up with Madara
3. Obito/Tobi 36+ Stronger than Naruto without support from Bee & co
4. Kabuto 36+ Stronger than Itachi without Sasuke’s support
5. Nagato/Pain 36 Stronger than Jiraiya
6. Naruto 35.5+ Could keep up with Pain
7. Sasuke 35.5+ Has acquired Itachi’s powers
8. Itachi 35.5 Databook
9. Jiraiya 35.5 Databook
10. Minato 35.5 Reportedly stronger than Orochimaru
11. Orochimaru 35 Databook
12. Tsunade 35 Databook
13. Sasori 34.5 Databook
14. Kakashi 34.5 Databook
15. Tobirama 34+ Clearly on league with Hiruzen, or even stronger
16. Hiruzen 34 Databook
17. Danzo 33.5 Repedeatly lamented not being as strong as Hiruzen
18. Onoki 32.5+ Could clearly keep up with Deidara
19. Bee 32.5 Could own Magenkyo Sasuke (32.5 at least) but got owned by Kisame
20. Kakuzu 32.5 Databook
21. Kisame 32.5 Databook
22. Deidara 32.5 Databook
23. Asuma 32.5 Databook
24. Chiyo 32.5 Databook
25. Ay 32 Confirmed that Bee surpassed him
26. Mei 31.5+ Kage level
27. Gaara 31.5+ Latest databook says 31.5 but he appears to have improved
28. Konan 31.5+ Akatsuki member level
29. Hidan 31.5 Databook
30. Might Guy 31.5 Databook

Now don't go rambling about how unreliable the databook is, because even if you take the databook out of the picture it still is clear that most of those before Gaara are all stronger than him.
 

Long Haired Leaf Ninja

Banned
Regular
Joined
Mar 22, 2013
Messages
515
Reaction score
26
I guess not. I read some manga called Naruto. I bet the manga you're reading is interesting too.

Gaara is my favorite character among the "good guys" but his powers clearly don't match most of the competitors. He being among the 30 strongest shinobi in existance already makes him a powerhouse, he just doesn't match many of the main fighters in the story. I'd love him to stand out more and develop more and more powers but he just doesn't.

Here, a quick top 30:

1. Madara 40 Kishi says he “has no weak points”
2. Hashirama 40 Clearly can keep up with Madara
3. Obito/Tobi 36+ Stronger than Naruto without support from Bee & co
4. Kabuto 36+ Stronger than Itachi without Sasuke’s support
5. Nagato/Pain 36 Stronger than Jiraiya
6. Naruto 35.5+ Could keep up with Pain
7. Sasuke 35.5+ Has acquired Itachi’s powers
8. Itachi 35.5 Databook
9. Jiraiya 35.5 Databook
10. Minato 35.5 Reportedly stronger than Orochimaru
11. Orochimaru 35 Databook
12. Tsunade 35 Databook
13. Sasori 34.5 Databook
14. Kakashi 34.5 Databook
15. Tobirama 34+ Clearly on league with Hiruzen, or even stronger
16. Hiruzen 34 Databook
17. Danzo 33.5 Repedeatly lamented not being as strong as Hiruzen
18. Onoki 32.5+ Could clearly keep up with Deidara
19. Bee 32.5 Could own Magenkyo Sasuke (32.5 at least) but got owned by Kisame
20. Kakuzu 32.5 Databook
21. Kisame 32.5 Databook
22. Deidara 32.5 Databook
23. Asuma 32.5 Databook
24. Chiyo 32.5 Databook
25. Ay 32 Confirmed that Bee surpassed him
26. Mei 31.5+ Kage level
27. Gaara 31.5+ Latest databook says 31.5 but he appears to have improved
28. Konan 31.5+ Akatsuki member level
29. Hidan 31.5 Databook
30. Might Guy 31.5 Databook

Now don't go rambling about how unreliable the databook is, because even if you take the databook out of the picture it still is clear that most of those before Gaara are all stronger than him.

Ask anyone on here and they will tell you the data book doesn't mean someone is better then someone just cause they are rated higher in the data book.
So people are bad match ups for each other. Just like some elements trump other elements. Some elements are bad match up's for each other.

In your own post you got bee ahead of Kisame but then state next to bee how he got owned Kisame someone who you got listed below him.
Your proof seems like its A>B>C logic and that don't work too well.
Also guy beat Kisame so that's another one that the date book didn't matter on.
 

Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Apr 8, 2013
Messages
5,773
Reaction score
397
Ask anyone on here and they will tell you the data book doesn't mean someone is better then someone just cause they are rated higher in the data book.
So people are bad match ups for each other. Just like some elements trump other elements. Some elements are bad match up's for each other.

In your own post you got bee ahead of Kisame but then state next to bee how he got owned Kisame someone who you got listed below him.
Your proof seems like its A>B>C logic and that don't work too well.
Also guy beat Kisame so that's another one that the date book didn't matter on.

doesn't change the fact that Gaara is not top 10 or 20
 

Long Haired Leaf Ninja

Banned
Regular
Joined
Mar 22, 2013
Messages
515
Reaction score
26
He isn't top 20 by data book standards but there isn't 20 characters that could beat him.
The data book isn't meant to say who could beat who.
It's more of a stat keeper.
 

Momo86

Member
Joined
Dec 28, 2012
Messages
330
Reaction score
40
Ask anyone on here and they will tell you the data book doesn't mean someone is better then someone just cause they are rated higher in the data book.
So people are bad match ups for each other. Just like some elements trump other elements. Some elements are bad match up's for each other.

In your own post you got bee ahead of Kisame but then state next to bee how he got owned Kisame someone who you got listed below him.
Your proof seems like its A>B>C logic and that don't work too well.
Also guy beat Kisame so that's another one that the date book didn't matter on.

Wow you managed to miss the point three times in one post. That's a feat.

1. I already told you, I am merely using the databook as a general blueprint. Take the databook out of the picture and Gaara is still below the first 20 shinobi on that list.

2. My logic is not A>B>C, which is why I put Kisame below Bee (though that is debatable, I admit, one could put Kisame above Bee and still be correct). Because the databook tries to analyze -albeit unaccurately, sometimes- the general power level of the ninja without taking matchups, circumstances, equipment, environments, and intel into account.

Kisame has a good matchup against jinchurikis, that's why (IMHO) he got Bee. Shikamaru got Hidan with superior strategy, intel, and support from his friends; Sai owned Deidara and Sasori AT THE SAME TIME with minimal help from Kankuro and Omoi, but mostly because they had no equipment at the time; Guy was the worst matchup for Kisame (who whas exausted by the fight with Bee anyway). And Gaara, with the desert at his disposal, was owning Deidara (field advantage) but then Deidara got the upper hand by treatening the village (circumstantial advantage) and still won.

In short there are plenty of occasions in which the databook values don't determine the outcome of a fight. The databook indicates the general power level of the ninja, compared to the rest of the ninja world. QUick example: Shino can probably be a though matchup for Sasori because his ultra-slim chakra threads are easy to eat for the Kikaichu Beetle. Does that mean that, in the general picture, Sasori and Shino are on the same league? HELL NO.

3. (following point 2) Gaara could probably beat some shinobi that are above him, point is that in the general picture he is not among the twenty strongest shinobi ever and cannot certainly own "anyone" just because he controls sand. Which is what the OP is stating.
 

Long Haired Leaf Ninja

Banned
Regular
Joined
Mar 22, 2013
Messages
515
Reaction score
26
I feel like you just agree with me.
Just cuz someone is ranked higher in the data book doesn't make them better then everyone below them in the data book.
I'd really like to see you make a claim for 20 characters that would beat garra without a doubt. That's what I'm saying.
I could make a counter for all 20 people you come up with.
 
Top