Could Gaara beat Itachi?

[OnPoint]

we can't say it had nothing to do with gaara pulling out madara from his sussano? what if it did?

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that wasnt even madara's complete sussano if it was full armored gaara may have not been able to get madara out of it.

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I CANT BELIEVE I HAD TO GUARD MY SELF WITH AN ENTON

itachi used it nagato's dogs which werent pretty close to him?

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it doesnt matter if gaara is far away, as long as itachi has gaara in his sight amaterasu will get gaara it doesnt travel it appears

Sure, Itachi is going to be able to spam amaterasu whilst trying to keep his balance on Gaara's sand. I mean, Itachi being Itach, he could probably see through any sandstorms Gaara chooses to create, right?

Sarcastic mode: on

 

[Ghostofthewind]

ROFL, this is your response lad?

So when Zetsu calls Itachi 'invincible', he must literally mean invincible.

So when Jiraiya says "everybody pales in comparison to the fourth lord. As a shinobi his capacity was unparalleled, a true one-of-a kind." he must literally mean Minato is leagues above every other ninja, right? Cool, I get it

There's a thing called exegesis and context.
Zetsu says Itachi is "essentially invincible"
Jiraiya never saw Naruto reach sage mode.
Jiraiya didn't know anything about Itachi's ablities.

gaara doesn't make the list of who all fell for genjutsu :|

and tsukuyomi requires eye contact which gaara didn't make

and madara used every opportunity he had to use genjutsu and yes he was going for kill, he is just mocking the kages while trying to do that

True, the point was that several other high level ninja have been caught by a sgen. Why would Gaara be the exception?

 

[genii96]

Genjutsu can't affect third eye,why?....bcos it is just a technique,it has no brain,just like the paths of pain,they have sharted vision but cant all be affected by the same genjutsu bcos they all have seperate brains,sharingan genjutsu affects the brain chakra,he needs to see gaara himself to actually place him in a genjutsu,shadow clones transfer all their experience to the original,why didnt kakashi's shadow clone transfer his genjutsu experience to kakashi?,u cant put gaara under a genjutsu by the third eye thats just made up. And even so,sand sensing is there as well,he found invisible muu several times and warned onoki,he found the giant clam despite being inside troll kage's clam genjutsu and even fought him,was talking to his illusion and findng the giant clam at the same time all while inside th clam's genjutsu. Gaara dominates itachi in a dessert and has a 50/50 chance of beating hi outside.

 

[Bogard]

If he can beat Itachi, then he beats Sasuke also, right?

 

[Prince Charles]

1) Gaara's sand skin well protect gaara from amutrasu.
2) tsoukuymo won't work unless itachi uses it real close and in direct eye contact.
3) If gaara is caught in normal genjustu, the sand still protects him and would by him enough time to escape/free him self from genjustu.
4) Gaara can attack from any point/Range in the battle field no matter the conditions.
5) Gaara can cover a full activated Sassuno of Madara and seal (unfortunately didnt have enough time)
6) Gaara can sink itachi
7) Gaara can create sand grave, sand pyramid which both can either seal or kill.
8) Gaara has been able to fight this whole time against the strongest of foes such as his father and now Madara.


I am not saying gaara would win....... However Itachi wouldnt win too..... This fight is a 50/50 - 55/45 55 bring itachi...... If you say other wise you are nothing but a bias and foolish person.......... A sword is equal to knife even though the knife is not a big and as sharp...... It still a weapon, a sharp one in fact " Samuri master LEE "

gaara isnt fast enough to block ama.

AS SOON as itachi lays his eyes on gaara's its over you can't deny that.

itachi doesn't need eye contact to get someone in a genjutsu,he can simply use his finger genjutsu

if gaara gets trapped in a genjutsu his sand protecting him means nothing, itachi can simply AMA him as soon as his in the genjutsu gaara's sand isnt fast enough to react to it.

itachi's yata mirror can block most of gaara's attacks

and we cant say for gaara can pull itachi out of a full armoed sussano considering gaara pulled mara out of a incomplete one

 

[Prince Charles]

Sure, Itachi is going to be able to spam amaterasu whilst trying to keep his balance on Gaara's sand. I mean, Itachi being Itach, he could probably see through any sandstorms Gaara chooses to create, right?

Sarcastic mode: on

that wasn't funny.

btw yata mirror blocks all of gaara's sand storm.

whos to say gaara's sand can go through a complete sussano with yata mirror?

 

[lol99]

Genjutsu can't affect third eye,why?....bcos it is just a technique,it has no brain,just like the paths of pain,they have sharted vision but cant all be affected by the same genjutsu bcos they all have seperate brains,sharingan genjutsu affects the brain chakra,he needs to see gaara himself to actually place him in a genjutsu,shadow clones transfer all their experience to the original,why didnt kakashi's shadow clone transfer his genjutsu experience to kakashi?,u cant put gaara under a genjutsu by the third eye thats just made up. And even so,sand sensing is there as well,he found invisible muu several times and warned onoki,he found the giant clam despite being inside troll kage's clam genjutsu and even fought him,was talking to his illusion and findng the giant clam at the same time all while inside th clam's genjutsu. Gaara dominates itachi in a dessert and has a 50/50 chance of beating hi outside.

actually none of them have any functional brain they are dead bodies, the only one who has a functional brain is nagato

but i agree with you on pain

not so sure about the third eye

 

[Zato]

You guys should ask this question. If Kishi wrote a fight between Gaara and Itachi(if Itachi was still alive) who do you think that he would make the winner? This is a very obvious answer.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

There's a thing called exegesis and context.
Zetsu says Itachi is "essentially invincible"
Jiraiya never saw Naruto reach sage mode.
Jiraiya didn't know anything about Itachi's ablities.


True, the point was that several other high level ninja have been caught by a sgen. Why would Gaara be the exception?

Oh I see, it's only exaggeration when they're not talking about Itachi *facepalm*

And of course, because Zetsu knows and has seen every ninja who has ever lived *facepalm*

So because they're not overexaggerating when they talk about Itachi, not even So6P can beat him, because that what makes Itachi 'invincible' *FACEPALM*

Typical fanboy approach, don't wank Itachi in here please.

 

[MickNerks]

we can't say it had nothing to do with gaara pulling out madara from his sussano? what if it did?

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that wasnt even madara's complete sussano if it was full armored gaara may have not been able to get madara out of it.

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I CANT BELIEVE I HAD TO GUARD MY SELF WITH AN ENTON

itachi used it nagato's dogs which werent pretty close to him?

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it doesnt matter if gaara is far away, as long as itachi has gaara in his sight amaterasu will get gaara it doesnt travel it appears

1. thats fair, but we just have two diffrent opinions. I believe that he lightened the sand to increase speed, you believe it had something to do with gaara pulling madara out of susanoo. We will just have to disagree with that because neither of us have proof to back up our opinions.

2.

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We have two completely diffrent translations

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[Strict]

I see how you try to downplay Itachis abilities again. Do you acknowledge Itachis strength? Itachi can cast illusion whenever his opponents are looking at him; he is even able to control people over a distance where even the sensors ability to sense someone isn't working anymore. Itachi is a master of Genjutsus and is using them in the very beginning of the battle, no matter whether you are aware of the Sharingans Genjutsus, the most people get nevertheless caught in an illusion since it's impossible to simply avoid eye contact in a battle with a powerful shinobi. Why didn't Kabuto just avoid eye contact instead of closing his eyes? Think about it. There are not only Itachis Genjutsus, there is also Amaterasu which arises wherever Itachi is aiming for and cannot be deleted. At this point it doesn't matter whether Gaara is flying or not, a single glance is casting Amaterasu at exactly the point he aims for, Gaara included.

And that you underestimate Itachis intelligence and strategical skills just show how one-sided your argumentation is. Itachi is one of the smartest Shinobi with the best analytical and strategical skills, he reads his opponents like an open book and use this ability to outsmart the most opponents. There is not only his Mangekyou Sharingan and the Genjutsus; there is the speed most the others can't keep up with, he is making hand seals and Kagebunshins without the opponent is even noticing it. It is not like Itachi is just fighting by using Ninjutsus. He is incredibly fast, intelligent and versatile, he ends the most battles by using mere Genjutsus and if all of this isn't working, he still has Amaterasu and Susanoo as his trump card.

And of course Genjutsus will affect the third eye, because it is Gaaras own. He is looking through it, what means that he is seeing Itachi who is casting the illusion as well. Once Gaara has seen Itachi, whether it be through his third eye or not, he will be affected by the illusion. Again just a theory with no foundation from your side.

You have to stop this nonsense, you say that you are not underestimating Itachi but put him same time in a fight with Gaara where he is considered to lose.

 

[OnPoint]

that wasn't funny.

btw yata mirror blocks all of gaara's sand storm.

whos to say gaara's sand can go through a complete sussano with yata mirror?

Deary me. Do you even know what a sandstorm is?

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It's not an attack it's like a mist, it's to obscure one's sight. It can't be blocked by the Yata Mirror :rofl:

 

[Prince Charles]

1. thats fair, but we just have two diffrent opinions. I believe that he lightened the sand to increase speed, you believe it had something to do with gaara pulling madara out of susanoo. We will just have to disagree with that because neither of us have proof to back up our opinions.

2.

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We have two completely diffrent translations

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flames dont mean amaterasu, if it was amaterasu why wouldnt he say it? why say flames? flames can mean a regular katon or any other katon style

and i guess we have to agree to disagree about the sussano sand grabbing thing

btw how do plp do those rabbit emotes ? i dont see them

 

[TouchMyMangos]

I see how you try to downplay Itachis abilities again. Do you acknowledge Itachis strength? Itachi can cast illusion whenever his opponents are looking at him; he is even able to control people over a distance where even the sensors ability to sense someone isn't working anymore. Itachi is a master of Genjutsus and is using them in the very beginning of the battle, no matter whether you are aware of the Sharingans Genjutsus, the most people get nevertheless caught in an illusion since it's impossible to simply avoid eye contact in a battle with a powerful shinobi. Why didn't Kabuto just avoid eye contact instead of closing his eyes? Think about it. There are not only Itachis Genjutsus, there is also Amaterasu which arises wherever Itachi is aiming for and cannot be deleted. At this point it doesn't matter whether Gaara is flying or not, a single glance is casting Amaterasu at exactly the point he aims for, Gaara included.

And that you underestimate Itachis intelligence and strategical skills just show how one-sided your argumentation is. Itachi is one of the smartest Shinobi with the best analytical and strategical skills, he reads his opponents like an open book and use this ability to outsmart the most opponents. There is not only his Mangekyou Sharingan and the Genjutsus; there is the speed most the others can't keep up with, he is making hand seals and Kagebunshins without the opponent is even noticing it. It is not like Itachi is just fighting by using Ninjutsus. He is incredibly fast, intelligent and versatile, he ends the most battles by using mere Genjutsus and if all of this isn't working, he still has Amaterasu and Susanoo as his trump card.

And of course Genjutsus will affect the third eye, because it is Gaaras own. He is looking through it, what means that he is seeing Itachi who is casting the illusion as well. Once Gaara has seen Itachi, whether it be through his third eye or not, he will be affected by the illusion. Again just a theory with no foundation from your side.

You have to stop this nonsense, you say that you are not underestimating Itachi but put him same time in a fight with Gaara where he is considered to lose.

By your logic, Itachi one shots every ninja who has ever lived with his genjutsu right at the start of the fight :sy:

It's in the desert dear.

 

[Prince Charles]

Deary me. Do you even know what a sandstorm is?

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It's not an attack it's like a mist, it's to obscure one's sight. It can't be blocked by the Yata Mirror :rofl:

oh wow i thought you meant something else.

itachi can still activate his full sussano in time.

 

[Prince Charles]

By your logic, Itachi one shots every ninja who has ever lived with his genjutsu right at the start of the fight :sy:

It's in the desert dear.

not every ninja but a very few selected plp can do it.

 

[Maunten]

those were clones not the actual madara

Each of the 25 wood clones had Dojutsu capabilities up to that of EMS.

 

[Bogard]

Hebi Sasuke>Gaara

 

[TouchMyMangos]

not every ninja but a very few selected plp can do it.

How does Hashirama stop himself from getting one shotted by Tsukuyomi then? I mean, you guys' logic says that he won't be able to.

 

[Rike Senju]

Itachi beats gaara high difficulty on normal field and gaara wins low difficulty on the dessert..also there's no such thing as a "healthy itachi" only Edo and sick itachi..some itachi fanboys are dragging his name down with stupid and ignorant arguments U_U