Could fully healthy DMS Obito be stopped without nerfing?
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Hahahahaha! Mad woodrider? Obito's spirit entered kakashi's body along with his chakra, it may not be conventional possession where the spirit controls the person but other than that it was possession.
& Nothing suggests obito can't do the same.
Then why mention that he's featless? Kakashi showed us what he can do which is just as good as a feat.
Doesn't mean he can't
Very stupid point. Obito's "tools" & itachi's "tools" are two completely different things.
Sasuke's EMS = itachi's chakra + sasuke's chakra, meaning that PS can't be attained without both sibling's chakra. Sasuke's PS is his because he needed his chakra along with itachi's in order to do it, Itachi only got him halfway there & sasuke had to do the rest.
Now for obito's case, every jutsu that kakashi showed us was obito's. Obito's PS is completely dependent on obito's chakra, not kakashi's, so you can't compare his PS with sasuke's.
Obito owns kakashi's susanoo 100%, sasuke only owns half of his PS, itachi owns the other half.
Did itachi ever meet the requirements in order to unlock PS? Nope
Did obito ever meet the requirements in order to unlock PS? Yep
Note* EMS grants the user PS but so does MS + rikudou's chakra as shown through indra & kakashi, so inb4 "MS itachi can still possibly use it" because no, he can't.
So what? Are you saying that he can't use those jutsus now? Because according to you you never said that he can't. So why you would fix a factual statement is beyond me.
So what? You think that somehow nullifies the fact that he played a key role in taking down kaguya? Oh my woodriders these days.
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Don't forget Hagoromoo too, since Hagoromoo with six path Justus is fanfic until they show him using it in the manga :|
Seriously, the f*ck...
Does Kakashi have to a sixth time that the techniques are not his?
It's dependent on Obito's eyes, not his chakra. Obito had no physical eyes to give Kakashi, so instead he gave him his chakra which manifested into the Sharingan - that's the only reason Obito was even needed because there were no physical eyes, that and to transfer the Rikudo power as well.Hahahahaha! Mad woodrider? Obito's spirit entered kakashi's body along with his chakra, it may not be conventional possession where the spirit controls the person but other than that it was possession.
& Nothing suggests obito can't do the same.
Then why mention that he's featless? Kakashi showed us what he can do which is just as good as a feat.
Doesn't mean he can't
Very stupid point. Obito's "tools" & itachi's "tools" are two completely different things.
Sasuke's EMS = itachi's chakra + sasuke's chakra, meaning that PS can't be attained without both sibling's chakra. Sasuke's PS is his because he needed his chakra along with itachi's in order to do it, Itachi only got him halfway there & sasuke had to do the rest.
Now for obito's case, every jutsu that kakashi showed us was obito's. Obito's PS is completely dependent on obito's chakra, not kakashi's, so you can't compare his PS with sasuke's.
Obito owns kakashi's susanoo 100%, sasuke only owns half of his PS, itachi owns the other half.
Did itachi ever meet the requirements in order to unlock PS? Nope
Did obito ever meet the requirements in order to unlock PS? Yep
Note* EMS grants the user PS but so does MS + rikudou's chakra as shown through indra & kakashi, so inb4 "MS itachi can still possibly use it" because no, he can't.
So what? Are you saying that he can't use those jutsus now? Because according to you you never said that he can't. So why you would fix a factual statement is beyond me.
So what? You think that somehow nullifies the fact that he played a key role in taking down kaguya? Oh my woodriders these days.
You're suggesting Kakashi's feats are Obito's feats because of this but it wouldn't have mattered. If kakashi had obitos physical eyes and the Rikudo power he would have still done what he did without obito "possessing him"
Obito's chakra wasn't needed. Just Rikudo's chakra and Obitos eyes.
this is why i wish he survived and fought on his own. :[
its hard to say what kakashi himself did using the eyes since he was praised as the copycat again.
obito always used large shuriken so that could go to both of them.
hes rikodou powered. everyone besides sages family are below him.
its hard to say what kakashi himself did using the eyes since he was praised as the copycat again.
obito always used large shuriken so that could go to both of them.
hes rikodou powered. everyone besides sages family are below him.
*Sigh* Therefore, obito's chakra is the reason why susanoo was able to manifest, so what if it's dependent on his eyes? As you said obito's chakra is what turned kakashi's normal eyes into obito's eyes in the first place.
Yes it would have.
Oh my god are you ever going to stop with these bad points?
Has kakashi ever used a jutsu with obito's eye that obito was unable to use [namely long-range snipe]?
By making this statement you're implying that kakashi can use jutsus with obito's eyes that obito can't even use himself, however this was contradicted when obito mastered the ability immediately after gaining the eye.
Remember how long it took kakashi to get used to it? It took obito moments, this proves that obito's jutsus can easily be used by obito himself through his own eyes. Therefore obito can use susanoo just as kakashi was able to since there's nothing suggesting he can't.
Read the damn manga, it was obito's chakra in the first place that caused the sharingan to awaken, therefore obito's chakra = obito's eyes. [
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Yes, he could be:
^^ Madara stated that if he used Limbo it would be even faster then Truth seeking orbs movement which could put it close to Double Kamui speed used on Obito.
Anyway Madara was only worried about Rinnegan, not Obito's MS. Prime Obito means no Rikudou chakra, no Rinnegan and so no Juubi(Rinnegan is needed to control it).
Limbo > Kamui.
and it was Madara with just one Rinnegan , if he has double Rinnegan then Limbo clones are even faster, more durable and the most important the number increase to 5. Let's not forget also that Madara was nerfed and restricted as well, NO ashura path, no human path etc...
Kaguya would still caught him by Ash bone using Space time portals, in the worst case Kaguya synchronize her Space time powers with Kamui dimenssion and Obito is done for.
Hagoromo shoot TSB at Obito who phases through them, by then Hagoromo appear behind him when Obito get solid and about to attack. Hagoromo pull his soul out of his body, gg.
Naruto uses army of clones speedblizting around shooting powerfull attacks at Obito to create diversion to land sealing magnetism technique of Shukaku to immoblize Obito and restrain him, then finish him with TSB.
Sasuke uses Sussano arrow and while it phases through Obito he switches places with it, pulling Obito's soul out of Obito's body or if Obito phases through him as well , then he keep swtiching with his attacks until he lands final blow on Obito.
Also Kamui is no > FTG. FTG is the fastest and it was proven.
However after appearing if your reaction time and timming of attack fail then it is another story.
Rinnegan Tomoe Sasuke or RSM Naruto with FTG > Kamui speed/effectivnes
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^^ Madara stated that if he used Limbo it would be even faster then Truth seeking orbs movement which could put it close to Double Kamui speed used on Obito.
Anyway Madara was only worried about Rinnegan, not Obito's MS. Prime Obito means no Rikudou chakra, no Rinnegan and so no Juubi(Rinnegan is needed to control it).
Limbo > Kamui.
and it was Madara with just one Rinnegan , if he has double Rinnegan then Limbo clones are even faster, more durable and the most important the number increase to 5. Let's not forget also that Madara was nerfed and restricted as well, NO ashura path, no human path etc...
Kaguya would still caught him by Ash bone using Space time portals, in the worst case Kaguya synchronize her Space time powers with Kamui dimenssion and Obito is done for.
Hagoromo shoot TSB at Obito who phases through them, by then Hagoromo appear behind him when Obito get solid and about to attack. Hagoromo pull his soul out of his body, gg.
Naruto uses army of clones speedblizting around shooting powerfull attacks at Obito to create diversion to land sealing magnetism technique of Shukaku to immoblize Obito and restrain him, then finish him with TSB.
Sasuke uses Sussano arrow and while it phases through Obito he switches places with it, pulling Obito's soul out of Obito's body or if Obito phases through him as well , then he keep swtiching with his attacks until he lands final blow on Obito.
Also Kamui is no > FTG. FTG is the fastest and it was proven.
However after appearing if your reaction time and timming of attack fail then it is another story.
Rinnegan Tomoe Sasuke or RSM Naruto with FTG > Kamui speed/effectivnes
