Could 3rd Raikage Tank Kirin?

Tank or fail?

  • Course he can Tank!

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  • Sniff........ Sniff I smell sausages

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  • I don't know???

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Let me just summarise this for you.

Jutsu of the same chakra nature negate eachover, as you stated in your post. Kirin is an offensive lightning tech, the 3rd raikages lightning armour isa defensive lightning tech. So they negate eachover.

Rasenshuriken isnt a lightning tech, also base rasengan has been shown to be stronger then chidori, so rasenshuriken vs a kirin, rasenshuriken would win.

However, rasenshuriken vs raikage, STILL had no effect. So Kirin would barely do anything to him.

Also the 3rd Raikages defense is the most solid in the entire narutoverse, he tanked an army of shinobi for an entire week until he ran out of chakra.. If a Rasenshuriken cant do the job, the only thing that can is his raiton finger.

Summary:

3rd Raikage's Lightning Armour --> Rasenshuriken --> Kirin
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I might be stating the obvious but since they both negate eachother, in this case its a pro towards 3rd and a con towards kirin.
 

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Nothing can match the chakra of kirin it would just penetrate his defence
Yes, a TBB can. Actually TBB > kirin chakara wise. So note that the 3rd had battles with the 8 tails frequently so I would have to assume he would have gotten hit by the attack at least once. Also note that the same element negate eachother so that would mean raiton armour has the upper hand.
 

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He didn't eat Rasenshuriken, it actually did major damage to him. His chakra network was shot. The only reason he survived was because he was Edo.
Oh? He didn't eat it?

3rd Raikage was knocked back because it is Rasenshuriken. But he was still unaffected by it...

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Did the Rasenshuriken have no affect?

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3rd Raikage tanked the Rasenshuriken...
 

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Oh? He didn't eat it?

3rd Raikage was knocked back because it is Rasenshuriken. But he was still unaffected by it...

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Did the Rasenshuriken have no affect?

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3rd Raikage tanked the Rasenshuriken...

He wasn't unaffected he got taken out of his lighting armour and he's sizzling.
 

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Alright Title says it all.
Raikages Feats:
  • Usually ,similar chakara natures negate each other and is determined by chakara input.
  • 3rd also has his natural durability which could tank being transported via lightning lol.
  • Tanked a FRS
Kirin's Feats:
  • Not just a single lightning bolt, consists of multiple.
  • Zetsu stated it as " amount of chakara in this tech is at an unimmaginable scale " because it's natural energy.
Can 3rd Tank it or will he be to a crisp?
If Kakashi's lightning cutter (Rakiri) could cut a lightning bolt I'm sure that the 3rd Raikage's lightning armor could take out Kirin
 

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He wasn't unaffected he got taken out of his lighting armour and he's sizzling.
I said he ate it. Look at what Rasenshuriken did to Kakuzu. Killed him 3 times...While the Raikage was knocked back even though he was at an elemental disadvantage. He still wasn't damaged enough to be sealed away. Which is why I still say he tanked Rasenshuriken...
 

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People need to realise that just because a technique is at a disadvantage against another technique doesnt mean its stronger. Example wind > lightning. But as zetsu stated kirin is on another level to what humans can produce with their chakra. Rs is a technique that a human was able to produce with his chakra. Kirin's force is something that humans cannot create with their own chakra.

Whilst rs might have the advantage, kirin is stronger. Kirin > Rs
Even though rs might have the nature advantage over kirin because kirin is stronger, it will overpower rs.

Similarly when 2 ninja's produce the same level nature affiliation attack, it cancels each other out. But when one ninja produces a greater technique within the same nature affilation, the stronger technique beats the weaker technique. So amaterasu > any fire technique and we have seen this.

Basically Kirin > rs.
Next, because raikage is a raiton user he gains abit of immunity from raiton based attacks , no different from kakashi and sasuke.

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Sue to raikage being affiliated to lightning. His raiton armour providing im with a raiton defence and his body being durable as hell, i believe he would tank kirin but he would get damaged. He should survive though
 

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People need to realise that just because a technique is at a disadvantage against another technique doesnt mean its stronger. Example wind > lightning. But as zetsu stated kirin is on another level to what humans can produce with their chakra. Rs is a technique that a human was able to produce with his chakra. Kirin's force is something that humans cannot create with their own chakra.

Whilst rs might have the advantage, kirin is stronger. Kirin > Rs
Even though rs might have the nature advantage over kirin because kirin is stronger, it will overpower rs.

Similarly when 2 ninja's produce the same level nature affiliation attack, it cancels each other out. But when one ninja produces a greater technique within the same nature affilation, the stronger technique beats the weaker technique. So amaterasu > any fire technique and we have seen this.

Basically Kirin > rs.
Next, because raikage is a raiton user he gains abit of immunity from raiton based attacks , no different from kakashi and sasuke.

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Sue to raikage being affiliated to lightning. His raiton armour providing im with a raiton defence and his body being durable as hell, i believe he would tank kirin but he would get damaged. He should survive though
Sure. I'm not going to disagree. Kirin is stronger than Rasenshuriken. I used the Rasenshuriken as an example because of it's elemental advantage. It's an S ranked wind attack, and he was barelly affected by it. Now Kirin definitely has the force to destroy anything, but the 3rd Raikage's lightning armor is chakra enforced as well. Something Kirin is not. Which is why I believe he can survive Kirin with his lightning armor. The Rasenshuriken example just shows how strong the armor is.
 

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Sure. I'm not going to disagree. Kirin is stronger than Rasenshuriken. I used the Rasenshuriken as an example because of it's elemental advantage. It's an S ranked wind attack, and he was barelly affected by it. Now Kirin definitely has the force to destroy anything, but the 3rd Raikage's lightning armor is chakra enforced as well. Something Kirin is not. Which is why I believe he can survive Kirin with his lightning armor. The Rasenshuriken example just shows how strong the armor is.
Jutsu to jutsu Rasenshuriken beat his lightning armor it just didn't affect his body too much after that. So realize that his lightning armor is a lightning jutsu that lost to the fuuton rasenshuriken which is a wind jutsu because of the element advantage. If it would have "tanked it" as you keep saying his armor would have still been in tack like when he fought the eight tails. If an attack was follow up immediately after FRS he would have been done, but Kishi needed to show how strong the 3rd Raikage was and Naruto's battle awareness.
 
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Jutsu to jutsu Rasenshuriken beat his lightning armor it just didn't affect his body too much after that. So realize that his lightning armor is a lightning jutsu that lost to the fuuton rasenshuriken which is a wind jutsu because of the element advantage. If it would have "tanked it" as you keep saying his armor would have still been in tack like when he fought the eight tails. If an attack was follow up immediately after FRS he would have been done, but Kishi needed to show how strong the 3rd Raikage was and Naruto's battle awareness.
The details are the key my friend. I said he tanked it, I never said his armor withstood it. That is a big difference if you compare the two. Of course FRS disabled his lightning armor because of its elemental advantage, but seeing how powerful the rasenshuriken was, for it to only briefly knock him down, not even long enough to seal him... SO when I say he tanked it, He took the attack head on and it did minimal damage to him...
 
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Alright Title says it all.
Raikages Feats:
  • Usually ,similar chakara natures negate each other and is determined by chakara input.
  • 3rd also has his natural durability which could tank being transported via lightning lol.
  • Tanked a FRS
Kirin's Feats:
  • Not just a single lightning bolt, consists of multiple.
  • Zetsu stated it as " amount of chakara in this tech is at an unimmaginable scale " because it's natural energy.
Can 3rd Tank it or will he be to a crisp?
He tanked against the Hachibi (TBB) and FRS (strongest wind jutsu, and it had the elemental advantage of wind>lightning). After that, what the hell is Kirin to him...? lol :)

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Yeah I think he would, Itachi tanked a kirin with his ribcage susanoo, so I don't see why the 3rd raikage cant considering he tanked a Futon Rasenshuriken without even a scratch
 
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