Connection Between Izangi and Tobi theory?

[Lightbringer]

Ok, so after reading a few threads, I've come up with a theory about who Tobi is....hear me out on this....what if Tobi was created by Madara using Izangi? Which is why Tobi referred to himself as being nobody because he doesn't have a true Identity.

Also he could have been created with the sole purpose to serve Madara in his plan, which is why he is so devoted. Itachi also mentioned that Tobi/madara was a shell of his former self....perhaps this is because due to the limitations of Izangi, Tobi is an imperfect clone of Madara, which is probably why he needed to obtain the Rinnegan through Nagato, rather than having his Sharingan Evolve.

And about Nagato being "given" the Rinnegan; perhaps this is also due to the EMS version of Izangi.....from what I've read, it seems Madara has lived a long time after the battle with Hashirama, given him time to use Izangi again if there is a cooldown to the EMS version.

We don't know yet what the capabilities of Izangi are when used by an EMS....would it really make one go blind or just have a long waiting period to use it again?

This is just a far-fetched theory which is probably not the case...but what do you guys think?

 

[Bliss]

I like this, it makes you think.
Don't recall ever reading a theory like this yet!

 

[Uchiha Prophet]

... nice

 

[Rikudo SenninKun Namikaze]

dude... another one of these... it can't.

Izanagi only has effect onto the user of the jutsu, affecting ONLY the reality surrounding their own space; noone else's.

IZANAGI CAN ONLY BE USED WHEN YOU HAVE ACCESS TO SENJU DNA AND UCHIHA. HAVING EMS DOES NOT CHANGE YOUR MS POWERS OR THE MS POWERS OF THE JUTSU OR GIVE YOU INFINITE CHAKRA, JUST ALLOWS YOU TO NOT LOSE THE LIGHT IN THEM WHEN THEY'RE OVERUSED.

thus-- izanagi would not be different when used with EMS; there is only PERFECTED izanagi (tobi) or incompleted izanagi (danzo)-- having in common- both though SENJU n UCHIHA Dna.

danzo bringing HIMSELF back to life; making the damage ON HIM a mere illusion, same for tobi against Konan. ONLY AFFECTING THEIR OWN PERSONAL SPACE-TIME REALITY.

 

[-The Agent-]

Sigh. Izanagi permanently seals the eye. Causing one to go blind FOREVER. That's why it was deemed a forbidden technique among the Uchiha. Also, like some one said it's a genjutsu placed on the user in order to create a new reality. Example: You stab me to death I genjutsu myself and come back to life.

 

[Bliss]

dude... another one of these... it can't.

Izanagi only has effect onto the user of the jutsu, affecting ONLY the reality surrounding their own space; noone else's.

So6P used Izanagi to create things, no?

 

[shisuimirage42]

dude... another one of these... it can't.

Izanagi only has effect onto the user of the jutsu, affecting ONLY the reality surrounding their own space; noone else's.

u are incorrect, that was danzo's incomplete form that could only affect the user. the SO6P had a complete one and was able to manipulate reality with it. look up the battle between konan and tobi

 

[-The Agent-]

So6P used Izanagi to create things, no?

u are incorrect, that was danzo's incomplete form that could only affect the user. the SO6P had a complete one and was able to manipulate reality with it. look up the battle between konan and tobi

To the both of you: It's a genjutsu place on oneself to create a new reality.

 

[Lightbringer]

Ok...but! As I said, there might be a new form of Izangi with the EMS which instead of sealing the eye, just gives a longer cooldown and can possibly create something small like Tobi.....Izangi 2.0 being a step closer to the "creation of all things"

 

[Bliss]

To the both of you: It's a genjutsu place on oneself to create a new reality.

Explain how So6P used it to create things which still exist even though he's long gone?

 

[Mejkl3]

Explain how So6P used it to create things which still exist even though he's long gone?

SO6P used Creation of all things not Izanagi ...

Izanagi can only be used on the user himself ...

Izanagi is related to creation of all things but not Izanagi=creation of all things

 

[-The Agent-]

Explain how So6P used it to create things which still exist even though he's long gone?

You thought your response was so cool huh?

Izanagi is a part of the creation of all things. But like I said at least twice in this thread. He used it to create a new reality, so even after he's dead the reality won't just disappear....

 

[Bliss]

SO6P used Creation of all things not Izanagi ...

Izanagi can only be used on the user himself ...

Izanagi is related to creation of all things but not Izanagi=creation of all things

Your grammar irritates me.

 

[Lightbringer]

You thought your response was so cool huh?

Izanagi is a part of the creation of all things. But like I said at least twice in this thread. He used it to create a new reality, so even after he's dead the reality won't just disappear....

Ok...but! As I said, there might be a new form of Izangi with the EMS which instead of sealing the eye, just gives a longer cooldown and can possibly create something on a smaller scale like Tobi.....Izangi 2.0 being a step closer to the "creation of all things"

 

[Bliss]

You thought your response was so cool huh?

Izanagi is a part of the creation of all things. But like I said at least twice in this thread. He used it to create a new reality, so even after he's dead the reality won't just disappear....

Bossed by Dave Chappelle.
I resign from this arguement.

 

[shisuimirage42]

To the both of you: It's a genjutsu place on oneself to create a new reality.

thats how danzo used it not SO6p

 

[-The Agent-]

thats how danzo used it not SO6p

I explained that in a later post. That izanagi is a part of the creation of all things. It's still the same concept, Izanagi is just the derivative.