anyways i see the point of this post, sasuke's base is stronger then naruto's base, or faster w.e. and yes thats tru, but sasuke's power ups are applied to his base form, naruto has to active his.
Idiot its not base sasuke
Idiot, its a madaras statue
Idiot, base naruto speed blitz poor rinne sasuke.
Idiot, base naruto made a scratch on statute head
Here we See Sasuke, standing on top of the Madara statue and Naruto on top of the Hashirama statue.
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If you look, you will clearly see there is no round fully round parts to Madara's head. He has an almost straight line (where Sasuke is standing and spikey/long hair at the back.
However look how rounded Hashirama's head/hair is.
Here we see Naruto and Sasuke both dashing for each other, both leaned forward, the pedal at maximum.
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BUT in the next page, we see Sasuke landing on the Hashirama statue
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This means that, Sasuke obviously dashed at least 90+ meters in a mere split second, while Naruto could only dash around 3 meters or so.
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This is all manga facts, and I have explained it all. This proves Base Sasuke is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Base Naruto
BY a lot!
How can Sasuke be at Base with both the Sharigan and Rinnegan own? You failed Sasuke is powered up against Base Naruto and Naruto just mach His peed. That how weak now Sasuke is.
Hello, I just noticed both Naruto and Sasuke great beloved fans trying to use Last chapter to put their favourite above another, Here I wanted to explain all confusion trying to show not biased view at it.
BASE - normal state of character with no enhacements modyfing either chakra flow, eye powers, body's powers etc. This state includes all abilities which user can execute without need to use dojutsu, enhance body's powers by entering special mode.
Base Naruto speed ~ Base Sasuke's speed
Here is the Proof:
Sasuke had a head start.I even point it out with red arrow.
On the other hand,Naruto talked with kakashi sensei about sakura's pathetic dream.
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Naruto also ran towards valley of the End after finish talking with kakashi
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Both Naruto and Sasuke landed on hashirama and madara's statues respectively at the SAME time.Even Sasuke had a head start, Naruto still reached to valley of the end at the same time as sasuke Lol
and in the lastest chapter:
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^^ Naruto proved to be as fast as Sasuke or maybe even faster. His physical strength match Sasuke's own as shown.
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Base Naruto's Improvement over time
Great fans of Sasuke keep trying to underrate Base Naruto's speed or body stats at all using still outdated manga panel like that:
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Although it sounds logical and leggit they seem to frogot or omit on purpouse term of "development". Yes Base Naruto's body power weren't impressive from get go, he needed to train really hard to develop his body/yang powers. Also in this scan Naruto was greatly weakened from his fight against Orochimaru when he transformed into four tails Kyuubi. OK I promised to show Base Naruto's body powers improvement and here I will deliver them. Basically any noticable improvement of Naruto affecting his base state was Sage mode training.
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^^ First improvement was seen when Naruto run out of Sage charka in battle against Pain.
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^^ short skirmish against Karui and Darui of cloud village revealed even more Naruto's improvement in body powers.
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^^ Kakashi commented that Naruto's timming is even better then his own reffering to Naruto's speed and Kakashi is pretty fast himself.
Hebi Sasuke's god like speed
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^^ Hebi Sasuke was able to blitz Deidara and even keeping up with Itachi, could matched nine tails chakra mode naruto's foot speed:
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^^ NO SUNSHIN OF COURSE from Naruto.
However that was Sasuke after absorbing Orochimaru:
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so only fair would be to compare Hebi Sasuke with Initial Kyuubi mode Naruto's speed.
Naruto and Sauske && Yang and Yin
I am not sure if Kishi has planned making Naruto and Sasuke yang and yin since the begining. However certainly they act and posses power like that.
Naruto's Taijutsu sucked great deal, that is clear. However Naruto has never been taught Taijutsu or at least noone even cared to refine his Taijutsu skills/ combat technique so that why he sucked in that part.
Anyway as I proved Base Naruto's speed matches or surprass Base Sasuke's speed. Naruto's physical strength, durability, endurance and for sure reaction time surprass Base Sasuke's same stats. It is nothing which should shock us as all mentioned abilities belong in Yang powers aka body powers.
It is same with Base Sasuke surprassing Base Naruto in Genjutsu's depertament, nature manipulation etc. It again should not shock us as all mentioned abilties belogn in Yin powers aka spirit powers.
Now Sasuke looks like surprassing Base Naruto's speed by possesing Precognition ability which comes directly from his doujutsu at the lowest level. It allow Sasuke to see incomming attacks in slow motion closing this gap fully. Naruto's counter depends on using amount of shadow clones to make attack harder to deflect or defend against.
Base Naruto surprasses Base Sauske's genjutsu(at least protection against Genjutsu) and Nature manipulation etc. skills by entering specific mode enhnacing/amplify his yin powers along with Yang when the latter is dominative.
Now both Naruto and Sasuke differ from each other as Yang and Yin, both completes each other as both make perfect shinobi. They seem to differ in their's dreams about world, mindset. Also both Naruto and Sasuke has advantage over each other in respected departament. For example Sasuke's doujutsu makes his yin powers much above Naruto's yin while Naruto's Senjutsu makes his yang powers much above Sasuke's yang.
Although both their's speed seems to be around same level as Sasuke's Space Time technique of his Tomoe Rinnegan makes up gap in physical foot speed to Naruto's Rikudou Senjutsu super fast speed.
Hello, I just noticed both Naruto and Sasuke great beloved fans trying to use Last chapter to put their favourite above another, Here I wanted to explain all confusion trying to show not biased view at it.
BASE - normal state of character with no enhacements modyfing either chakra flow, eye powers, body's powers etc. This state includes all abilities which user can execute without need to use dojutsu, enhance body's powers by entering special mode.
Base Naruto speed ~ Base Sasuke's speed
Here is the Proof:
Sasuke had a head start.I even point it out with red arrow.
On the other hand,Naruto talked with kakashi sensei about sakura's pathetic dream.
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Naruto also ran towards valley of the End after finish talking with kakashi
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Both Naruto and Sasuke landed on hashirama and madara's statues respectively at the SAME time.Even Sasuke had a head start, Naruto still reached to valley of the end at the same time as sasuke Lol
and in the lastest chapter:
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^^ Naruto proved to be as fast as Sasuke or maybe even faster. His physical strength match Sasuke's own as shown.
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Base Naruto's Improvement over time
Great fans of Sasuke keep trying to underrate Base Naruto's speed or body stats at all using still outdated manga panel like that:
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Although it sounds logical and leggit they seem to frogot or omit on purpouse term of "development". Yes Base Naruto's body power weren't impressive from get go, he needed to train really hard to develop his body/yang powers. Also in this scan Naruto was greatly weakened from his fight against Orochimaru when he transformed into four tails Kyuubi. OK I promised to show Base Naruto's body powers improvement and here I will deliver them. Basically any noticable improvement of Naruto affecting his base state was Sage mode training.
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^^ First improvement was seen when Naruto run out of Sage charka in battle against Pain.
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^^ short skirmish against Karui and Darui of cloud village revealed even more Naruto's improvement in body powers.
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^^ Kakashi commented that Naruto's timming is even better then his own reffering to Naruto's speed and Kakashi is pretty fast himself.
Hebi Sasuke's god like speed
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^^ Hebi Sasuke was able to blitz Deidara and even keeping up with Itachi, could matched nine tails chakra mode naruto's foot speed:
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^^ NO SUNSHIN OF COURSE from Naruto.
However that was Sasuke after absorbing Orochimaru:
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so only fair would be to compare Hebi Sasuke with Initial Kyuubi mode Naruto's speed.
Naruto and Sauske && Yang and Yin
I am not sure if Kishi has planned making Naruto and Sasuke yang and yin since the begining. However certainly they act and posses power like that.
Naruto's Taijutsu sucked great deal, that is clear. However Naruto has never been taught Taijutsu or at least noone even cared to refine his Taijutsu skills/ combat technique so that why he sucked in that part.
Anyway as I proved Base Naruto's speed matches or surprass Base Sasuke's speed. Naruto's physical strength, durability, endurance and for sure reaction time surprass Base Sasuke's same stats. It is nothing which should shock us as all mentioned abilities belong in Yang powers aka body powers.
It is same with Base Sasuke surprassing Base Naruto in Genjutsu's depertament, nature manipulation etc. It again should not shock us as all mentioned abilties belogn in Yin powers aka spirit powers.
Now Sasuke looks like surprassing Base Naruto's speed by possesing Precognition ability which comes directly from his doujutsu at the lowest level. It allow Sasuke to see incomming attacks in slow motion closing this gap fully. Naruto's counter depends on using amount of shadow clones to make attack harder to deflect or defend against.
Base Naruto surprasses Base Sauske's genjutsu(at least protection against Genjutsu) and Nature manipulation etc. skills by entering specific mode enhnacing/amplify his yin powers along with Yang when the latter is dominative.
Now both Naruto and Sasuke differ from each other as Yang and Yin, both completes each other as both make perfect shinobi. They seem to differ in their's dreams about world, mindset. Also both Naruto and Sasuke has advantage over each other in respected departament. For example Sasuke's doujutsu makes his yin powers much above Naruto's yin while Naruto's Senjutsu makes his yang powers much above Sasuke's yang.
Although both their's speed seems to be around same level as Sasuke's Space Time technique of his Tomoe Rinnegan makes up gap in physical foot speed to Naruto's Rikudou Senjutsu super fast speed.
If that's true than why didn't Sasuke blitz Naruto in the current chapter. He has is sharingan and rinnegan activated that allows him to read movement. This chapters proves that Naruto base speed is equal to Sasuke base speed (none body flicker speed) with sharingan and rinnegan activated.
Thank you for proving Hebi Sasuke>Current Base Naruto's speed.
That means current Hebi Sasuke's speed > Current Sasuke's speed.[just Raw speed with no enhacements]
also that means RSM Naruto's speed ~ Tomoe Rinnegan Sasuke's Space time technique + foot speed