Confirmed : Sarada is not the Sakura of this gen

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Her obsession for Sasuke does make sense, as I'd pointed out prior to this, that just like in abusive relationships the women stay for a plethora of reasons, her chasing after Sasuke is one of the most realistic aspects in the manga: Love. Love makes you do crazy things, even despite the blatant abuse.

Her love for Sasuke has no basis though, its based on nothing but his appearance. How does "love" like that amount to anything admirable or realistic? That's not love, its lust.

Emotions such as annoying, shallow, simpleminded etc. are all subjective to the readers own emotions/thoughts.

No, some of these are purely objective. Anticipating Sai calling Ino ugly? Shallow. Throwing a tantrum when he calls her beautiful instead? Shallow. Punching Sai simply for speaking the truth? Immature and abusive. Thinking she can take Sasuke all on her own? Simple minded. Leaving her friends unconscious in enemy territory? Simple minded and abusive. Trying to start a fake relationship with Naruto? Immature and simple minded. Thinking about Sasuke not caring for her while fighting the Juubi's bloody Jinchuriki? Simple minded. Yelling at her daughter for asking simple, basic questions? Abusive.

If I remember correctly, her Yin Seal had just finished forming at that exact point in time.

And she spent plenty of time messing around throughout all of P2 instead of focusing on forming it to aid everyone else. Well, it was a shoehorned ability that was clearly implemented last-minute.
 

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Ino wasn't the one who broke the friendship over a crush. Not to mention Sakura breaking their bond is even worse than if Ino did it since it was Ino that helped Sakura, not the other way around. Not to mention she's still petty to Ino in Part 2.

Sakura's treatment of Naruto never ended though, even in Part 2, she's still abusive to him. And its amazing how you imply being annoying justifies getting hit and mocked.

No she wasn't. There's also Ino, Kiba, Lee, Sai, and, of course, who could forget Salad.

But they were kids! Kids! Not even teenagers, only dumb kids. When I was a kid I had a new BFF in every month or so, until I matured and learned to value a true friendship.

What do you mean by abusive? She punched him a few times ( once in every 50- 100 champers maybe? ), and she always had a valid reason to do it. Yes, being idiotic and annoying is a valid reason. My sister sometimes beat the shit out of me when we were little, exactly for the same reason. Is she a terrible person? Yes, because she always puts pineapple on pizza. :devil:

I don't remember her being abusive to Kiba. Lee is a different story, I agree she was rude when they first met, but after Lee tried to save her life, they eventually become good friends. Sakura even visited him in the hospital several times. Sai was talking shit about Sasuke, so he deserved that punch.


Sakura is far from being perfect, but at least she is not an one dimensional ( and boring ) character like Hinata.
 
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Her love for Sasuke has no basis though, its based on nothing but his appearance. How does "love" like that amount to anything admirable or realistic? That's not love, its lust.



No, some of these are purely objective. Anticipating Sai calling Ino ugly? Shallow. Throwing a tantrum when he calls her beautiful instead? Shallow. Punching Sai simply for speaking the truth? Immature and abusive. Thinking she can take Sasuke all on her own? Simple minded. Leaving her friends unconscious in enemy territory? Simple minded and abusive. Trying to start a fake relationship with Naruto? Immature and simple minded. Thinking about Sasuke not caring for her while fighting the Juubi's bloody Jinchuriki? Simple minded. Yelling at her daughter for asking simple, basic questions? Abusive.



And she spent plenty of time messing around throughout all of P2 instead of focusing on forming it to aid everyone else. Well, it was a shoehorned ability that was clearly implemented last-minute.

Who are we do define what love or lust truly is? That is opinionated, and up to the lover/luster to decide, not for us, people on the outside to infer upon, no, that would be nothing, but plain ignorance. That's similar to saying:

Me: I love fish, though I've never tried fish, I still love it.
You: You can't love fish if you've never tasted it before.

Why can I not love fish, if in my mind I truly do? Who are you to judge my emotional standpoint on the regarding who, or what I love?

The rest of what you're saying is completely subjective, but you won't allow yourself to see it that way, which I can completely understand because everyone has an opinion, and I respect it.
 

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But they were kids! Kids! Not even teenagers, only dumb kids. When I was a kid I had a new BFF in every month or so, until I matured and learned to value a true friendship.

What do you mean by abusive? She punched him a few times ( once in every 50- 100 champers maybe? ), and she always had a valid reason to do it. Yes, being idiotic and annoying is a valid reason. My sister sometimes beat the shit out of me when we were little, exactly for the same reason. Is she a terrible person? Yes, because she always puts pineapple on pizza. :devil:

I don't remember her being abusive to Kiba. Lee is a different story, I agree she was rude when they first met, but after Lee tried to save her life, they eventually become good friends. Sakura even visited him in the hospital several times. Sai was talking shit about Sasuke, so he deserved that punch.

:lol I'm not holding that above Sakura's head, I'm holding the fact that she's still petty towards Ino even after all she's done for him.

Not addressing the rest, since you clearly think Sakura hitting her friends on a whim is justified, so that's w/e.
It was simple comic relief, Ino & Sakura were rivals on different levels and beauty was one of them. When Sai called Ino beautiful Sakura (believing she was more beautiful then Ino) it simply hit a superficial nerve of a 16 y/o. Sakura didn't declare war, chop Ino's hair off or anything deprived.

Your I've analyzing as usual....

Still a testament to her petty personality.

For the hundredth time, it's called team work.

For the hundredth time, it's called no development. She's always being saved ALWAYS. And yes, other characters are saved and do team work like you said, but they at least are able to handle their own selves. Sakura takes out one Juubi clone after not having fought since the Sasori fight, then nearly gets killed by Juubi clones, despite the fact that that moment was supposed to be Sakura moving in front of Naruto/Sasuke in order for them to "look at her back", but the only looking back they did was protecting her rear as usual just like in the Land of Waves arc, which causes the whole point of that shoehorned scene to fall and crumble anyways.
 
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:lol I'm not holding that above Sakura's head, I'm holding the fact that she's still petty towards Ino even after all she's done for him.

Not addressing the rest, since you clearly think Sakura hitting her friends on a whim is justified, so that's w/e.

You are as boring as Hinata smh.
 

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Denki was about to kill himself and some children. Dude had no chill
 

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Ashura incarnates don't have healing feats, merely that was a think of Hashirama, Tsunade, and then which was passed on to Sakura through Tsunade's tutelage. Also, I wouldn't go as far as to say she has powerful chakra on par with an Indra incarnate, because that blatantly isn't true, or supported. She has large chakra reserves from what we can infer, but not powerful chakra to claim Indra worthy.

Definitely not a bad thing, Sakura is a superb ninja.

Uhhh read the manga, they do.


Ashura's power = Hagoromo's life energy


The life energy is what gave Uzumaki/Senju their stamina and vitality. Karin can heal herself, Hashi can heal himself, Uzumaki have a seal that can heal to the same extent as Hashi, only RSM users have Hashi's natural healing feats, Naruto uses his body to control Kurama's power and heal himself
 

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Still a testament to her petty personality.

Being Ino's rival and wanting to out preform her isn't a personality flaw, keep searching.


For the hundredth time, it's called no development. She's always being saved ALWAYS. And yes, other characters are saved and do team work like you said, but they at least are able to handle their own selves.

This is a weak argument, basically Sakura contributing to her team in the ways they can't or couldn't makes her contributions obsolete because what? She's been saved previously? Again that's a weak argument and it doesn't hold up because the fact of the matter is just like she's been saved, she's saved othe people who can "handle themselves".. keep searching..


Sakura takes out one Juubi clone

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This is what I'm talking about, why are you reconstructing the manga just to support your argument and minimize the character your advocating against? Little dismissive things like this make you seem bias and less objective.


then nearly gets killed by Juubi clones, despite the fact that that moment was supposed to be Sakura moving in front of Naruto/Sasuke in order for them to "look at her back"

Again with your revision of the manga, the clone did not almost kill her. It simply appeared before her while her guard was down by and she even noticed its movements. Who's to say Sakura couldn't have handled herself in that juxtaposition? Especially since the situation was in essence CQC, Sakura could've knock that Juubi on it ass but the the theme of that chaphter was TEAM 7 "team wok"....
 

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Uhhh read the manga, they do.


Ashura's power = Hagoromo's life energy


The life energy is what gave Uzumaki their stamina and vitality and hence ability to control Kurama's foul chakra. Hashirama's vitality is what allowed him to have the same healing feats as White Zetsu (the beings made of Mokuton).


Ashura's power was RSM, the healing feats he gained from having Hago's body were passed on even after centuries of blood dilution. Karin can heal herself, Hashi can heal himself, Naruto uses his body to control Kurama's power and heal himself, etc.

I'm pretty sure that wasn't said in the manga, please link me though. Hagoromo had no ties to the Uzumaki clan directly. And Ashura had never shown the ability to heal etc. So...
 

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Did I just read that Sakura wasn't one dimensional -____-
 

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Did I just read that Sakura wasn't one dimensional -____-

It's subjective, that's like saying apples are always green, yet they can be red. Don't be ignorant, and think your perspective of Sakura is the one, and only correct truth.
 

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Sakura was just a poorly written heroine that's all it was. Kishimoto did not take his time developing her character correctly and spent it on love triangles. Some good writing would have never had Sakura fall in love at 12 years old to a guy she barely understood. Good writing would have given Sakura more major fights and would have SHOWN her training with Tsunade.

Kishimoto spent way too much time on Sakura's emotions about Sasuke instead of her actual character development. Sakura had A LOT of potential but got screwed over the SasuNaru show.
 

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I'm pretty sure that wasn't said in the manga, please link me though. Hagoromo had no ties to the Uzumaki clan directly. And Ashura had never shown the ability to heal etc. So...


Chakra is made of physical energy and spiritual energy, physical energy consists of the user's life force as well as their stamina. Ashura was born with Hagoromo's life force and his stamina.

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Furthermore, Ashura was an RSM user, he had the Yang to use healing's full potential. The life energy he possessed from having strong body is what allowed Karin to heal, gave Naruto and Hashirama the stamina to master Sage Mode and Kushina the stamina to survive extraction (like a JuubiJin)
 
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