complete sage mode vs eternal mangekyo

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EMS, simple theres no debate.
 

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What sage mode? Kabuto gave both EMS Sasuke and Edo Itachi trouble at the same time.
 

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LOL, either there's some alt foul play afoot or NBD really has gone to the dogs.

It's not even a contest, SM obliterates EMS.
 

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Depends on whose SM we're talking about Hashirama in sage mode would possibly beat every EMS user known to manga. However SM Naruto pre war/IT arc would lose to them.

Although in general, for some odd reason body (SM) has been stronger than eyes (ems).
 

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well EMS is better if i was choosing for myself...
as far as hashi vs madara is concerned, well that fight was designed by kishi, not me or anybody else.. EMS could have won with genjutsu but madara didn't use it... with EMS madara should have had a 3rd power which he apparently doesn't, let's assume it was amaterasu or kamui or KA or anything, again madara would have won...
so if it's EMS with 3 techs then it's clearly superior for me...
 

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Since when does Hashirama >>> Madara mean SM >>> EMS? Should i even adress this nonsensical reasoning or? I won't do it, but if somebody ask i will probably take his hand and walk together through the subject.

Returning on thread, no one is better. It depends on who uses those abilities. Naruto, equal/a bit stronger than 3T Sasuke, cannot win against EMS Sasuke. Hashirama, slightly weaker than EMS Madara, completely demolishes him with SM.
 

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Since no restriction,naruto current sage mode stomp shit on any ems
 

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Sharingan Abilities > SM Abilities. Let's see the strongest sm tech is Shinsuusenjutsu. K,A shits on the user of Shinsuusenjutsu. Kamui could snipe the user off the top of it. EMS wins cuzzo.
 

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RSM >>> Hashiramas SM > EMS w/PS > DSM > EMS w/o PS > Toad SM
 

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Complete sage mode gives
-Increased strength
-Increased stamina
-Sensing
-Senjutsu infused techniques
-Enhanced durability
-Greater reflexes

EMS gives
-Able to use MS techniques without going blind.


Yeah Sage mode wins.



EMS is a combination of both MS users MS which is why the EMS's design looks like both eyes,upgrades the users techniques,and increases their chakra supply.By transplanting Itachi's eyes,Sasuke gain his power too.
 

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EMS is a combination of both MS users MS which is why the EMS's design looks like both eyes,upgrades the users techniques,and increases their chakra supply.By transplanting Itachi's eyes,Sasuke gain his power too.
Sasuke doesnt have all of itachis abilities,
he doesnt have tsukuyomi, nor does he have the yata mirror and the totsuka blade equipped despite having itachis eyes, instead sasuke has enton, not to mention that madara despite having EMS, his only mangekyo technique shown is susanoo

 

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If sm is equivalent to ems,
rikudo sage mode is equivalent rikudo ems, which is another way of saying rinnegan,
so ems>sm,
rinnegan>rsm
 

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Depends on the user of the Sm/Ems

Overall

Sm Has defeated a Ps user who had help from the strongest bijuu

Already dodged Amaterasu

Shits on Ocular based Genjutsu due to sensing
 
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