Common Misconception. Kamui can get past Yata Mirror

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I gave you the definition of attack. Getting past something you're not supposed to is considered an aggressive attack.
I can give you a hundred different definitions of what an attack is from google that would support my statement. There's no one definition.

What is unanimously decreed however, is that an attack has 2 qualities.

1. Violence

2. Force


Intangibility is not violent and has no force.
 

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you mean 5000k not 5k. That's around 8000 Degrees Fahrenheit. That's enough to burn any substance on the planet to a crisp, which Amaterasu does not do.


Really, Amatearsu does not emit heat or light? Damn you just stole someone elses comment. What an original thinker.

What's your next excuse? Itachi can control the flames heat


Damn, you just don't stop creating fan-fiction. This is exactly the reason why I can't stand Itachi fapboys.
Can't a normal fire burn people's hand easily, which Uchihas spit out of the mouth? Why doesn't that fire burn the stomach of Sasuke when he uses Great Fireball Jutsu?

Because that's it in NV. You can't relate everything from NV to real life.
 

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I can give you a hundred different definitions of what an attack is from google that would support my statement. There's no one definition.

What is unanimously decreed however, is that an attack has 2 qualities.

1. Violence

2. Force


Intangibility is not violent and has no force.
Attempting to breach past a shield is not considered a force to you?
 

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If Kamui isn't astral explain how Obito can leave dimensions. He has to be leaving on space to enter another.

First of all, which or what definition of "astral" you are talking about? My understanding of the word "astral" is the same as what's provided by Google:

"of or relating to a supposed nonphysical realm of existence to which various psychic and paranormal phenomena are ascribed, and in which the physical human body is said to have a counterpart."
 

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First of all, which or what definition of "astral" you are talking about? My understanding of the word "astral" is the same as what's provided by Google:

"of or relating to a supposed nonphysical realm of existence to which various psychic and paranormal phenomena are ascribed, and in which the physical human body is said to have a counterpart."
That's exactly what I'm talking about. Kamui has no form it isn't physical.=Astral
 

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This thread is stupid

Obito teleports inside susanoo and kills Itachi

Obito can walk thru susanoo and kills Itachi

Obito snipes Itachi's head off from the getgo
 

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Are you sure about what you believe in because yata is translucent not dark like susanoo. I don't think yata consider a light an attack.

Thanks.
But the people who were in there house, who were sleeping also got trapped in IT. Light is not the X-Factor.
What? You'll simply be traveling through dimensions, not actually controlling time since he didn't go from past to present or anything like that. Don't see how time is a factor here.
The Space of Universe is the actual time that we call. That's how Parallel Universe works IMO. You open a warp to travel through dimensions and if you close that warp and have no way back other than to open another warp, you will surely end up either in past of future of the real world.

That's how Physics is :rolleyes:
 

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Attempting to breach past a shield is not considered a force to you?
Well he's not breaking the shield, he's just passing through it.

The shield can't traverse dimensions as it is.

What you don't understand is that when Obito is intangible, he does not exist in this dimension; he exists in his own dimension.

For Yata Mirror to halt his approach, would mean that Yata Mirror would have to teleport to Kamui-land and block Obito from there.


It cannot do that.
 

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That's exactly what I'm talking about. Kamui has no form it isn't physical.=Astral

This is madness. When Obito sucks himself into the Kamui dimension of course he no longer has any form in the real world because he is completely in a separate physical dimension. He simply no longer exists on this plane.

I really don't get this. Zzz
 

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The Space of Universe is the actual time that we call. That's how Parallel Universe works IMO. You open a warp to travel through dimensions and if you close that warp and have no way back other than to open another warp, you will surely end up either in past of future of the real world.

That's how Physics is
Now you're unnecessarily over complicating things. You state that if Obito travels through dimensions, but has no way back besides using Kamui again to warp, then he'll end up in the past or future, but the manga has clearly shown that to be false. Obito warps between dimensions constantly in this manga (Not talking about "intangibility", yet he's always ended up in the same place he warped from.

So that clearly shows this logic doesn't work here.
 
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Well he's not breaking the shield, he's just passing through it.

The shield can't traverse dimensions as it is.

What you don't understand is that when Obito is intangible, he does not exist in this dimension; he exists in his own dimension.

For Yata Mirror to halt his approach, would mean that Yata Mirror would have to teleport to Kamui-land and block Obito from there.


It cannot do that.
First, some part of him is clearly still there. His body is visible.
2nd that's not the only way. My whole theory relies on it changing form to stop any attack. If we consider that it is an attack then it changes to block it. one way or another.
 

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I think Yata not able to block Kamui that travel from one point to another point because the user is completely in separated dimension from real world. Same as intangibility move.

But for Kamui snipe, it able to block it because the MS eye sent the chakra signal at the chosen target and open dimensional warp to warping the target. That mean Yata are able to block the chakra signal.

Thanks.
 

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This is madness. When Obito sucks himself into the Kamui dimension of course he no longer has any form in the real world because he is completely in a separate physical dimension. He simply no longer exists on this plane.

I really don't get this. Zzz
The dimension is physical. The technique itself is not.
 

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Nope bro, he can't be completely intangible when in Kamuiland.
You see, when you go to other dimension, you got to have a linkage to the real world to get back, other wise it will be considered that Obito is able to control "space" (time) which is impossible for even Kaguya
Obito controls his space (body) to move at an incredible rate over time that it seems inhuman.

Yes, Obito has shown to be completely intangible when entering in dimensions:

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He sends in one part first before sending the rest

Kaguya has her own method as well, which Obito was amazed how she can travel far dimensions in a short amount of time.
 

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I think Yata not able to block Kamui that travel from one point to another point because the user is completely in separated dimension from real world. Same as intangibility move.

But for Kamui snipe, it able to block it because the MS eye sent the chakra signal at the chosen target and open dimensional warp to warping the target. That mean Yata are able to block the chakra signal.

Thanks.
Thats what I thought at first too. But if it's considered an attack then why can't it change form to stop Obito?
 
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