Common Misconception. Kamui can get past Yata Mirror

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I didn't say that. Only that attempting to get past a shield, is easily classified as an attack.

Punching is an attack

Walking is not


An attack is something that has a force behind it and would potentially harm you.

Kamui has no force behind it and being intangible cannot harm you
 

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Wow, the lamest excuse I've ever heard.


The surface of the sun is still hot enough to wipe out most life if not all life on the planet.

The surface of the sun would also be able to burn through rock and armor instantly.

The surface of the sun is only about 5k C so don't blow up :|
And Amaterasu doesn't emit heat or light, it just burns when in physical contact
 

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What did you mean by asking, I'm not asking anything but if you refer my question earlier about IT.

Can the light that shine form IT affected someone that shielding/hiding behind yata mirror.

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Thats a tough question. It can only be blocked if the light is considered an attack attempting to get past the shield.
 

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I'd say it doesn't emit light as it only feels when being in physical contact

It wasn't really directed to you more to Lightbringer. But yes, that's what I mean, and I guessed you knew about it.
 

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What did you mean by asking, I'm not asking anything but if you refer my question earlier about IT.

Can the light that shine form IT affected someone that shielding/hiding behind yata mirror.

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YM blocks all types of jutsus, it's in the databook scan. It can block IT too
 

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Astral is obviously referring to space attacks. Clearly when the data books were being translated a perfect job was not done.

Or nah. That's just something you want to become true. Astral always refers to foreign objects coming from the outer space not to space time continuum.
Either way Kamui is a transportation technique not an astral object.
 

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Punching is an attack

Walking is not


An attack is something that has a force behind it and would potentially harm you.

Kamui has no force behind it and being intangible cannot harm you

I gave you the definition of attack. Getting past something you're not supposed to is considered an aggressive attack.
 

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Yeah okay. pointless debating with you then. clearly Kishi left things open here with room for debate.

Lol, this is what you do when you've been proven wrong. Pathetic. Kishi hasn't left ANYTHING open to debate. Obito doesn't exist in the real world when he's "intangible". Manga fact no matter how hard you try and deny it.
 

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But when he's in Kamuiland, some entity is there in the real world. That's why he has to walk a mile in Kamuiland to reach a door which is too a mile away in the real world.

In Kamui dimensions it is a lot shorter

(Hence why it is called a s/t technique, a minute in kamui world is less than a nano second in the real world).

So his inangiblebody that is moving will pass through the shield, because it is not existing in the same world as yata mirror.

So when he decides to finally exist, he will be standing side by side with Itachi.

He can just warp away his tools as a whole, did you take that into consideration?

That he can make yata mirror exist in a completely different world?

Even from a distance too:





Just like he warped away kakashi's kamui.
 

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That goes back to my first post. Attempting to warp inside would bypass the mirror but the mirror which changes form to guard against astral attacks should come into contact with it and stop it.

But how is that exactly, I still don't get it from your first post.

Oh, you said something like Obito has some sort of ghost body in the real world when it isn't. Kamui is not something supernatural or astral or something like it.

Both the real world and the Kamui world are physical world. And Obito physically transfers all his body into the Kamui world.

Obito warps behind the Mirror and no need to make any contact with the Mirror.
 
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Or nah. That's just something you want to become true. Astral always refers to foreign objects coming from the outer space not to space time continuum.
Either way Kamui is a transportation technique.

Kamui is an astral attack. It uses space to leave one dimension and go to Obito's. Im not sure how you're arguing this really.
 

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The surface of the sun is only about 5k C so don't blow up :|
And Amaterasu doesn't emit heat or light, it just burns when in physical contact

you mean 5000k not 5k. That's around 8000 Degrees Fahrenheit. That's enough to burn any substance on the planet to a crisp, which Amaterasu does not do.


Really, Amatearsu does not emit heat or light? Damn you just stole someone elses comment. What an original thinker.

What's your next excuse? Itachi can control the flames heat


Damn, you just don't stop creating fan-fiction. This is exactly the reason why I can't stand Itachi fapboys.
 

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But how is that exactly, I still don't get it from your first post.

Oh, you said something like Obito has some sort of ghost body in the real world when it isn't. Kamui is not something supernatural or astral or something like it.

Both the real world and the Kamui world are physical world. And Obito physically transfers all his body into the Kamui world.

Obito warped behind the Mirror and no need to make any contact with the Mirror.
If Kamui isn't astral explain how Obito can leave dimensions. He has to be leaving on space to enter another.
 

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Lol, this is what you do when you've been proven wrong. Pathetic. Kishi hasn't left ANYTHING open to debate. Obito doesn't exist in the real world when he's "intangible". Manga fact no matter how hard you try and deny it.

But bro, if you can go to another dimension without any entity of you in the real world, and come back to the real world to same time, you'll be considered to be controlling time, which is impossible for anyone to do, even for Hagoromo or Kaguya
 

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you mean 5000k not 5k. That's around 8000 Degrees Fahrenheit. That's enough to burn any substance on the planet to a crisp, which Amaterasu does not do.


Really amatearsu does not emit hear or light? Damn you just stole someone elses comment. What an original thinker.

What's your next excuse? Itachi can control the flames heat


Damn, you just don't stop creating fan-fiction. This is exactly the reason why I can't stand Itachi fapboys.
It burns whatever that's consentrated
 

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Kamui is an astral attack. It uses space to leave one dimension and go to Obito's. Im not sure how you're arguing this really.

I'm not arguing it , this isn't up for debate. I am merely giving you a correct definition. Kamui isn't an astral body.
 

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YM blocks all types of jutsus, it's in the databook scan. It can block IT too

Are you sure about what you believe in because yata is translucent not dark like susanoo. I don't think yata consider a light an attack.

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In Kamui dimensions it is a lot shorter

(Hence why it is called a s/t technique, a minute in kamui world is less than a nano second in the real world).

So his inangiblebody that is moving will pass through the shield, because it is not existing in the same world as yata mirror.

So when he decides to finally exist, he will be standing side by side with Itachi.

He can just warp away his tools as a whole, did you take that into consideration?

That he can make yata mirror exist in a completely different world?

Even from a distance too:





Just like he warped away kakashi's kamui.

Nope bro, he can't be completely intangible when in Kamuiland.
You see, when you go to other dimension, you got to have a linkage to the real world to get back, other wise it will be considered that Obito is able to control "space" (time) which is impossible for even Kaguya
 

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I'm not arguing it , this isn't up for debate. I am merely giving you a correct definition. Kamui isn't an astral body.

I need a scan of this correct definition
 

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But bro, if you can go to another dimension without any entity of you in the real world, and come back to the real world to same time, you'll be considered to be controlling time, which is impossible for anyone to do, even for Hagoromo or Kaguya

What? You'll simply be traveling through dimensions, not actually controlling time since he didn't go from past to present or anything like that. Don't see how time is a factor here.
 
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