Common Misconception. Kamui can get past Yata Mirror

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Right Kamui =/= stars.

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Astral is obviously referring to space attacks. Clearly when the data books were being translated a perfect job was not done.
 

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The long range one is def. an attack.

Attack - take aggressive action against a place
You could classify attempting to phase through it as an aggressive attack

long range kamui is designed to transport objects. Is inter-dimensional travel an attack? Does yata suddenly have a conscience to determine what is and what isn't an act of aggression? Lol
 

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The thing is the Kamui user infect visible is not actually in the real world. They literally is in different dimension altogether. The dimension is there and overlap the real world but it not visible to physical world where that Yata Mirror currently in action.

What is that databook tried to imply about astral projection is physical world base astral projection. Actualy there are many form of astral body exist overlapping each other by their own separated dimension. That the fact of our real life.

But still can be translated/applied to Naruto world. Think that Kishi just know a physical world astral projection only but there are several other.

That's mean Yata able to block physical world astral attack. But not astral attack that originate from different dimension.

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Yes, but to be able to completely go to the other dimension without even having a link to the real world means Obito can control time, which means he can control 'space'.
Which is impossible because if he were to do that, he would just go in the past and future anytime, which no one, even Kaguya, can't do.
 

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Lightbringer has a point about Kamui is not an attack.
It's just warping to another dimension, that's the main purpose. Using it offensively is when you teleport only a limb to the dimension, but yet technically it's still just teleporting, in a way that causes harm.
It's not an exact attack in a technical way. But a technique, a teleporter.
 

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long range kamui is designed to transport objects. Is inter-dimensional travel an attack? Does yata suddenly have a conscience to determine what is and what isn't an act of aggression? Lol

It is capable of ripping this from one dimension to another. Are you trying to say that isnt an attack?
 

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The long range one is def. an attack.

Attack - take aggressive action against a place
You could classify attempting to phase through it as an aggressive attack

Yes, I said the long range one is an attack.

But Obito doesn't use that.

Every other Kamui move is not an attack.



So Yata Mirror has a self-conscious now to be able to read the minds of the opponents to determine whether they are acting with aggression?
 

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long range kamui is designed to transport objects. Is inter-dimensional travel an attack? Does yata suddenly have a conscience to determine what is and what isn't an act of aggression? Lol

It is capable of ripping things from one dimension to another. Are you trying to say that isnt an attack?
 

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Okay so what you're saying is he doesn't have form in the real world when he completely exists. I get that. But how does completely leaving there and entering Kamui help him get past Yata?

Easy, like he always does, he warps himself into the Kamui dimension and then warp back into the real world behind Itachi's Yata Mirror.

I believe he can phase through the Mirror too.
 

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So you're an idiot then?

Do you know what would happen if amaterasu was as hot as the sun?

If amaterasu was indeed as hot as the sun, the heat would be so intense that it would wipe out all life on the Planet.




Itachi's Amaterasu couldn't even burn through rock

Sasuke's couldn't even burn through Samurai armor.


Sasori's fire melted rock.

You're a stupid rather.

BZ didn't say it was as hot as Sun's core, he said as hot as sun, which would mean he could be potentially referring to the surface of the sun rather than the core.
 

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This is not an Obito>Itachi thread. Please do not turn it into one. If things start to go that way I will lock it.

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Kamui is astral(space time) technique.​
The argument here that Obito fans use is that it spawns where the user wants so it never comes into contact with Yata. This is absolutely correct. But....

But the Yata can come in contact with it since it's a spirit that can detect anything astral. When Obito is in his Kamui form, the real body is in another dimension, but the replica is in the real world. That replica is formless. The Yata is also formless as well and it has been stated that it can defend against formless entities. So I'm going to assume that either the Yata doesn't permit Obito to pass through because it could spiritally yet magically travel to the other dimension, or it supernaturally transforms itself into the other dimension to deflect the astral entity.

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Yes, I said the long range one is an attack.

But Obito doesn't use that.

Every other Kamui move is not an attack.


So Yata Mirror has s self-conscious now to be able to read the minds of the opponents to determine whether they are acting with aggression?

I didn't say that. Only that attempting to get past a shield, is easily classified as an attack.
 

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It is capable of ripping this from one dimension to another. Are you trying to say that isnt an attack?

It phasing through any object in real world because in different dimension altogether.

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Easy, like he always does, he warps himself into the Kamui dimension and then warp back into the real world behind Itachi's Yata Mirror.

I believe he can phase through the Mirror too.

That goes back to my first post. Attempting to warp inside would bypass the mirror but the mirror which changes form to guard against astral attacks should come into contact with it and stop it.
 

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BZ didn't say it was as hot as Sun's core, he said as hot as sun, which would mean he could be potentially referring to the surface of the sun rather than the core.

Sun's surface is still hot as 5000C to 1000C.
Amaterasu isn't as hot as the sun because once Bee got struck with it he should be crisp in less than a second.
Second, Amaterasu does not emit heat, which doesn't emit light. Therefor it's only when physically touched you should feel the burn, or rather it's my theory here.
 

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You're a stupid rather.

BZ didn't say it was as hot as Sun's core, he said as hot as sun, which would mean he could be potentially referring to the surface of the sun rather than the core.

Wow, the lamest excuse I've ever heard.


The surface of the sun is still hot enough to wipe out most life if not all life on the planet.

The surface of the sun would also be able to burn through rock and armor instantly.
 

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Sun's surface is still hot as 5000C to 1000C.
Amaterasu isn't as hot as the sun because once Bee got struck with it he should be crisp in less than a second.
Second, Amaterasu does not emit heat, which doesn't emit light. Therefor it's only when physically touched you should feel the burn, or rather it's my theory here.

I can't say if Amaterasu is 5k C cause it's NV. But I'd say it doesn't emit light as it only feels when being in physical contact
 

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I don't understand what you're asking?

What did you mean by asking, I'm not asking anything but if you refer my question earlier about IT.

Can the light that shine form IT affected someone that shielding/hiding behind yata mirror.

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How did amterasu come up?
 
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