Common Misconception. Kamui can get past Yata Mirror

[Dantе]

Because Kabuto could have got a kunai tag to take Itachi back into his control good thing itachi had Sasuke to help him out.

Lol Itachi was a genius, Kabuto couldn't do anything to defeat him. He admitted Itachi's godly ocular powers are too OP

 

[The8thGateBeast]

Can you just leave my thread. I want it to stay logical and vs free

Logic left when you thought fodder shield can block kamui.

 

[Trúth]

Lol Itachi was a genius, Kabuto couldn't do anything to defeat him. He admitted Itachi's godly ocular powers are too OP

Stop debating with the kid. I just want him to go away on his own.

 

[My Username]

BS, Itachi did most of the work... It couldn't have been over if Totsuka hadn't shown it's blitz


That why it's Mystical, Supernatural and Godly.
You can't tell anything for sure...

If not for Naruto and Bee,CT would solod that Shitachi

 

[KidGamer65]

But the Yata can come in contact with it since it's a spirit that can detect anything astral. When Obito is in his Kamui form, the real body is in another dimension, but the replica is in the real world. That replica is formless. The Yata is also formless as well and it has been stated that it can defend against formless entities. So I'm going to assume that either the Yata doesn't permit Obito to pass through because it could spiritally yet magically travel to the other dimension, or it supernaturally transforms itself into the other dimension to deflect the astral entity.

When Obito is "intangible" he isn't there. Simple as that. Yata Mirror can't block something from entering when its not there to begin with, so Obito can pass through it. He isn't becoming a ghost like entity that exists in the real world, he leaves the real world and exists in Kamui land. Yata can't pass through dimensions, so it can't block Obito.

The bold is nothing but fanfiction. Not even the Databook implies Yata can travel through dimensions, nor does it imply that it can transform into the Kamui dimension, which makes no sense, like most of this thread.

If the long range Kamui forms behind the mirror, the mirror is useless. It can't negate something it can't block. And it stopping someone who isn't even there from passing through it isn't happening either.

 

[Ansatsuken]

This is not an Obito>Itachi thread. Please do not turn it into one. If things start to go that way I will lock it.

Yata mirror.

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Kamui is astral(space time) technique.​

The argument here that Obito fans use is that it spawns where the user wants so it never comes into contact with Yata. This is absolutely correct. But....

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But the Yata can come in contact with it since it's a spirit that can detect anything astral. When Obito is in his Kamui form, the real body is in another dimension, but the replica is in the real world. That replica is formless. The Yata is also formless as well and it has been stated that it can defend against formless entities. So I'm going to assume that either the Yata doesn't permit Obito to pass through because it could spiritally yet magically travel to the other dimension, or it supernaturally transforms itself into the other dimension to deflect the astral entity.

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OK although Kamui is non form technique and you able to said Yata still able to block it.

Then what about the light shine from Infinite Tsukuyomi. I make this thread before, then many people said someone hiding/shielding by Yata mirror still able to be effected by the light.

The question is how those formless attack is different from each other?

Thanks.

 

[Paul Mooney]

Read first

i did read, before i posted, i still dont understand how ppl think other than that fact that kamui isnt affected by the yata effect..

 

[The8thGateBeast]

Lol Itachi was a genius, Kabuto couldn't do anything to defeat him. He admitted Itachi's godly ocular powers are too OP

Is that why Itachi needed Sasuke to brake out of a Tayuya flute genjutsu?? Hahahaha your solo God would have been soloed without sasuke deal with it.

 

[Lightbringer]

Didn't we already go over this?

Yata Mirror block attacks

Kamui is not an attack. It's teleportation. It's as much as an attack as FTG is.

Therefore Yata can't block Kamui

 

[Trúth]

When Obito is "intangible" he isn't there. Simple as that. Yata Mirror can't block something from entering when its not there to begin with, so Obito can pass through it. He isn't becoming a ghost like entity that exists in the real world, he leaves the real world and exists in Kamui land. Yata can't pass through dimensions, so it can't block Obito.

The bold is nothing but fanfiction. Not even the Databook implies Yata can travel through dimensions, nor does it imply that it can transform into the Kamui dimension, which makes no sense, like most of this thread.

If the long range Kamui forms behind the mirror, the mirror is useless. It can't negate something it can't block. And it stopping someone who isn't even there from passing through it isn't happening either.

If he isn't there explain his body have form. In some way he's still there. Yata blocks it.

 

[Trúth]

Didn't we already go over this?

Yata Mirror block attacks

Kamui is not an attack. It's teleportation. It's as much as an attack as FTG is.

Therefore Yata can't block Kamui

Kamui is an astral attack. Its pretty clear.

 

[Dantе]

When Obito is "intangible" he isn't there. Simple as that. Yata Mirror can't block something from entering when its not there to begin with, so Obito can pass through it. He isn't becoming a ghost like entity that exists in the real world, he leaves the real world and exists in Kamui land. Yata can't pass through dimensions, so it can't block Obito.

The bold is nothing but fanfiction. Not even the Databook implies Yata can travel through dimensions, nor does it imply that it can transform into the Kamui dimension, which makes no sense, like most of this thread.

If the long range Kamui forms behind the mirror, the mirror is useless. It can't negate something it can't block. And it stopping someone who isn't even there from passing through it isn't happening either.

But Obito had to walk the same distance in Kamuiland as he had to walk in real world, so it implies some entity had to be there in real world.

 

[The8thGateBeast]

Stop debating with the kid. I just want him to go away on his own.

Someone is in denial LoL so many people soloed you're thread already and you still try to argue hahahaha.
Kamui > Fodder shield

 

[Trúth]

OK although Kamui is non form technique and you able to said Yata still able to block it.

Then what about the light shine from Infinite Tsukuyomi. I make this thread before, then many people said someone hiding/shielding by Yata mirror still able to be effected by the light.

The question is how those formless attack is different from each other?

Thanks.

Idk about this question really. Light can't be considered an attack imo

 

[My Username]

If he isn't there explain his body have form. In some way he's still there. Yata blocks it.

What have you been smoking these days?
How can Yata block Obito when his basically intangible?

 

[Lightbringer]

Kamui is an astral attack. Its pretty clear.

How is kamui an attack? It's not hurting anyone unless if you use it like Kakashi on a focal point.

Being transferred to a dimension is not an attack

 

[KidGamer65]

If he isn't there explain his body have form. In some way he's still there. Yata blocks it.

Don't care why his body is still visible, manga already states that Obito isn't there when he is intangible. That's all there is to it. Yata can't block something that isn't there.

But Obito had to walk the same distance in Kamuiland as he had to walk in real world, so it implies some entity had to be there in real world.

No it doesn't. Especially when its been stated its not there. There is nothing there.

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Kakashi stated that it wasn't transparent, its existing in another dimension. In fact, have we ever actually seen the exact body parts Obito has transported to the other dimension while it was there? Usually there is always someone passing through him so we can't tell.

 

[mohdzarif]

Wow such manga facts!!

Kamui is astral LMAO.

You don't understand Kamui. Obito's entire body is always in the real world when not in contact with anything. However, a contact with something, that part will be transferred to the other dimension.

You are assuming Obito becoming a ghost with his jutsu when it isn't. There is no such thing as his body's replica is in the real world. The part of his body that transferred to the other dimension has no sort of incorporeal copy of it in the real world.

Yata Mirror can magically transfers to Kamui dimension because it's supernatural??? LMFAO. Kamui is far from being a supernatural jutsu. A supernatural jutsu is something like Dan's jutsu.

Your thread are filled with many stupid assumptions.

Very ironic that you claimed to clear misconceptions yet you yourself have some misconceptions and also make a lot of unsubstantiated assumptions.

 

[Kirokill]

Idk about this question really. Light can't be considered an attack imo

Kabuto's sage jutsu of dragons twirling around a ball causing very strong light to block vision and sound to paralyze.
I consider it an attack.

 

[Dantе]

OK although Kamui is non form technique and you able to said Yata still able to block it.

Then what about the light shine from Infinite Tsukuyomi. I make this thread before, then many people said someone hiding/shielding by Yata mirror still able to be effected by the light.

The question is how those formless attack is different from each other?

Thanks.

Yata can block genjutusu, so yes it can block IT too

Didn't we already go over this?

Yata Mirror block attacks

Kamui is not an attack. It's teleportation. It's as much as an attack as FTG is.

Therefore Yata can't block Kamui

Where it's explicitly written than Yata only block "attacks"??