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Before delving into this, I advise you read this thread:
As it touches upon certain thoughts in this thread that will be looked over and discussed.
1. Reviewing the original theory and dissecting confirmed and or denied portions based on new evidence.
2. Discussing peculiar power-ups that Naruto could awaken based on empirical evidence within the manga (Which was established in the original thread).
3. Confirming or denying power-ups Sasuke has obtained/will obtain.
4. More in depth discussion of the rumored “Time Manipulation” (established in the original thread) and explaining the validity of the technique.
5. The dichotomy of the Savior (Rikudou) and destroyer (Juubi) and how it is reflected by Naruto and Obito respectively.
1. Reviewing the original theory
First established portion: The impossibility of the Sage being born with the Rinnegan
Now, how did Kishimoto answer this?
Here:
So all the chakra originated from the tree. Kaguya was the first to use chakra, and Rikudou inherited her power.
“Was Rikudou born with the Rinnegan or did he gain it from the Juubi?” Yes. This is how Kishimoto answered it. In essence, the Rinnegan requires chakra so its roots are rooted within the source of all chakra; the God Tree, which is the Juubi; the overall coalescence of the 9 Bijuu’s. Rikudou most likely had the Rinnegan from birth because he inherited his mother’s powers which stemmed straight from the God Fruit (which is from the Juubi in essence). This part of the theory was a little invalidated but was still correct in the assertion that the Rinnegan comes from the Juubi.
Second established portion: How the son’s powers directly stem from the Juubi and not Rikudou
Now, this is becoming as prominent as ever due to more recent revelations in the manga. We recently learned that Kaguya, the mother of Rikudou, ate the God Fruit, which in essence IS THE JUUBI. So she gained said powers, and Rikudou inherited the abilities. The sons subsequently inherited half his powers, and as we now know, they came from the Juubi because of his mother. Like I established in the first thread, biologically, such an even split is downright impossible, and the possibility of their conceptions being mystical, as opposed to biological is more possible than ever.
Also, look at this:
Looks at lot like Hashirama’s Wood Dragon jutsu… doesn’t it? And this is coming from the God Tree (Juubi). This to me, is confirmation that the powers are completely connected to the Juubi regarding the two sons.
Third established potion: Being the Juubi Jinchuriki grants the Jin the Rinnegan
Now this… is a little different than the other two. We’ve seen that Obito did not gain the Rinnegan in his right eye, where his Sharingan resides. However, we do know that ALL CHAKRA COMES FROM THE JUUBI. Now, how did Rikudou gain his powers (and his renowned Rinnegan which Jiraiya noted was one of his prominent characteristics)? He inherited his abilities from his mother which came from the Juubi. So from either one, being the Jinchuriki or inheriting his mother’s powers (which as I have noted multiple times, come from the Juubi’s essence), he gained the Rinnegan. So this portion of the thread is confirmed of some merit because of the way Kishimoto answered it.
Fourth established portion: Explaining how it is possible for Naruto to awaken the Rinnegan
Will be explained in later in the thread when discussing Naruto’s powers…
Fifth established portion: Proving how anybody with the Eien No Mangekyou gains Perfect Susano’o
This was undoubtedly confirmed due to this scan in the latest chapter:
It shares identical similarities with the nose that is present on Madara’s Susano’o:
And Sasuke has already shown the use of legs on his Susano’o; so he has met the pre-requisites to attain the Eien No Mangekyou’s highest powered Susano’o; Stabilized Final Susano’o (Perfect Susano’o). To deny this would be denying the obvious.
That concludes the dissection of the original established portions of the prior theory,
2. Discussing peculiar power-ups that Naruto could awaken based on empirical evidence within the manga
Now, Naruto is an oddity in terms of power-ups. Some believe that him and Sasuke with their rudimentary power will be able to defeat Obito with a mere (in the contextual fight against Obito, this fusion is a mere additive which will barely phase Obito) Susano’o-Kurama Avatar fusion. What they fail to understand is that it will take a lot more to even thwart him at all. But to continue… I will discuss what is confirmed so far, and what is obvious to happen in the future…
Confirmed: Naruto was able to merge his Bijuu Mode with his Sennin Modo to create a new form, known as “Bijuu Sennin Modo” or BSM for short. Now, we have not gained ample feats to display the power of this mode, but we can speculate on the overall capabilities of it based on the modes at hand (BM and SM).
Now, in this instance, Naruto is adding SM to BM. When he was first using SM, he entered it from base, and effectively became more powerful than his base. But in this case… His Bijuu Modo is his base. So the variables that allowed Naruto to combat Pein (From base to SM) are even more threatening to an opponent because Bijuu Modo is significantly more powerful on its own than Sage Mode Naruto. To think that Bijuu Modo is considered the aforementioned base in this instance is insane. The power multiplication variables are bound to be of immense proportions.
Sage Mode grants increases to all three Major jutsu types, increased speed, immense sensing capabilities, and increased durability. Bijuu Mode grants OBSCENE SPEED, increased durability (Tanked a Juubi dama laser), and a boost to every technique Naruto uses (was able to use Double Rasenshuriken in separate hands). What we can conclude:
1. Naruto is unmatched in sensing ability as BM has negative sensing, normal sensing and SM itself has amazing sensing. Such overlapping variables will make Naruto nearly unhittable as he will always anticipate an incoming attack.
2. Naruto will possibly be able to sustain his immense speed showcased in prior chapters to the point that he can use consecutive shunsins in a “Blitzing” manner.
3. Naruto’s attacks in this mode will be unrivalled bar Juubi Obito due to the overlapping variables of SM and BM’s Ninjutsu prowess as a whole.
Concurrent with the Sensing conclusion:
Naruto is still adapting to the mode, but with the conclusion we made based on logical inferences, it should begin to flesh out.
Obvious
The other half of Kurama (Yin) is a forgone certainty for Naruto to obtain. It is just a matter of time before Naruto obtains the other half and gains more power, and becomes “100% Kurama Bijuu Sennin Modo”.
Possible based on empirical observation
Now… as some may know about me, I’m an advocate of Naruto obtaining the Rinnegan… Which I believe will be his final Power-up (which will supersede the obtaining of two other power-ups as a whole but both will ultimately link with his awakening of the Dojutsu).
As it has been established, all chakra comes from the Jubi (God Tree). As we have concluded in part 1, Rikudou obtained his Rinnegan from the Juubi, irrelevant to the fact he was the Jinchuriki later on; his powers came from the Juubi from birth. The Juubi’s composition consists of all 9 Bijuu. Naruto has 50% Kurama (ultimately will obtain the Yin Half) and the chakra of 6 other Bijuu. He is ultimately lacking Shukaku and Gyuki. But the implication that Kurama himself comprises more of the Juubi than any other Bijuu (which is rather obvious given the huge power-gap between Kurama and all the other Bijuu at a mere 50% total chakra). But regardless of this, those beasts comprise the Juubi and the Juubi’s influence (the Fruit is the Juubi’s essence) allows the awakening of the Rinnegan (concluded from the first portion of the thread).
The culmination of the chakra the Bijuu’s gave Naruto and Kurama’s other half will be integral to Naruto awakening the Rinnegan. Another thing to note, we know that Obito’s appearance changed to fit the “Rikudou” type look… Correct? Well he looks like that because of the Juubi’s influence. Now that we know Rikudou inherited his mother’s powers which came from the Juubi’s essence, we know why Rikudou looks like he does (with the horns primarily). Naruto with just 50% Kurama looks very similar to the Rikudou silhouette. With the other half and the influence from the other Bijuu’s, Naruto’s appearance will change once more and embody Rikudou even more. Something like this:
This look also complies with the addition of SM to Naruto’s BM as it has the SM markings around his eyes.
So to summarize:
1. Naruto will awaken the Rinnegan because of the Bijuu’s chakra culminating within him.
2. Naruto’s form will change once more as a full “Rikudou cloak” will form.
Final Naruto: Rinnegan w/ 100% Bijuu Sennin Modo & Rikudou essence cloak
3. Confirming or denying power-ups Sasuke has obtained/will obtain.
Confirmed (as of the latest chapter and what I concluded in the first part): Sasuke will/has obtained the infamous Perfect Susano’o. As I established in the first part of this theory (Cogitation) any Eien No Mangekyou user upon having the eyes has the sufficient chakra supply from the donor’s eyes to utilize the Final Form of Susano’o and subsequently stabilize it.
Possible
Now… Sasuke has already had this power, but never to full effect. This power is the power of the Curse Mark. We’ve seen in the recent manga revelations that Juugo helped Sasuke utilize Senjutsu chakra because Sasuke absorbed some of Juugo’s flesh due to their inherent compatibility. This is integral to what I will propose here….
Sasuke will absorb Juugo as a whole and gain a higher form of the Curse Mark (above Level two) which would be reminiscent as the once theorized “Curse Mark Level 3”.
As seen here:
Juugo’s transfer of his passive absorption of natural energy was a success. This is integral to this proposition as a whole because Juugo’s ability to do so when he is in his body gave Sasuke an appearance almost identical to Sasuke’s old Curse Mark level 1 form. If Sasuke were to absorb Juugo fully, the effects will be much more “whole” and would transcend CM V2 because CM V2 was created from Juugo’s spliced DNA; to obtain the entire portion of the DNA would let the essence of the Curse Mark become even more powerful.
Continuing on a different note… Sasuke will obtain a new, never before seen EMS technique known as “Time Manipulation” which I will refer to as “Yomi” from now on. However, the discussion of this topic is in a different area of this thread and will be elaborated on fully there.
What we can conclude (from the first portion regarding CM V3) is that Sasuke’s Susano’o will be immense, and he will be able to coat (like he has been able to like any other state of Susano’o) it in Enton for added versatility. With a Senjutsu Perfect Susano’o coated in Enton, Sasuke will be handily above EMS Madara and roughly on par with Madara who has Kurama (VoTE). The over the edge factor to surpass Edo Madara (which Orochimaru was referring to) will be the never before seen EMS technique.
Sasuke’s full potential still hasn’t been shown and he was blessed with the most powerful Mangekyou in the manga because of the amount of techniques he has (Madara has only shown Susano’o prowess, Obito only has Kamui and Itachi showed prowess only in Tsukuyomi and was never able to manipulate Ama in to Enton. Sasuke has both PS, Enton and a lesser form of Tsukuyomi, but it may be on par with Itachi’s now because Sasuke now has Itachi’s eyes).
Final Sasuke: Enton Senjutsu Perfect Susano’o w/ Fused Juugo flesh fully (CM V3) and Yomi
4. More in depth discussion of the rumored “Time Manipulation” (established in the original thread) and explaining the validity of the technique.
Amaterasu is the physical power that the MS gives. It is the physical amalgamation that the Mangekyou allows. It’s opposite; Tsukuyomi is entirely spiritual and allows control over the spiritual world residing in the Genjutsu. We know from Itachi that when one gains the EMS, it gives birth to an entirely new Dojutsu; with its own techniques. This could be the new found power of Sasuke's EMS.
Now what is this you ask? Well… We have to note first; Sasuke is the only Uchiha in the series that awakened an entirely new KKG with his Mangekyou. So awakening a new technique when he gained a higher Dojutsu is highly probable given the track record of Sasuke’s Dojutsu techniques and their timeline.
Affixing perception to a "more" physical level would be the basis for the technique. Sasuke’s technique, called Yomi, would tread on his ability to manipulate both Enton (which he has mastered as the physical ability of the Mangekyou) and Tsukuyomi (Spiritual, which he inherited from his brother's eyes). But not Enton nor Tsukuyomi, but the actual properties surrounding them (controlling both the physical aspect of the Mangekyou and the spiritual aspect of the Mangekyou and using them in subsequent unison).
Now where did I base this off of?
This scan:
He “feels” Itachi’s power flowing through him. This is not merely an indication, but rather in context this is definite that Sasuke has acquired Itachi’s powers on some kind of level. Itachi’s Douryoku (MS powers) are supplementing the new light of Sasuke.
Sasuke still has retained his MS abilities and on top has Itachi’s. This new jutsu will be a supposed “combination” of the prominent abilities of both of them: Manipulation of Shape Manipulation (Sasuke’s Amaterasu) and Manipulation of time inside the Genjutsu (Itachi’s Tsukuyomi) into a more physical level of time manipulation and perception. The ability will be like a “merger” between the two brothers. Much like how gaining EMS grants a new Dojutsu, gaining the brothers MS grants a new Dojutsu technique because of the combination of the eye techniques. Perfect Susano’o comes with the Eien No Mangekyou regardless. The “merger” between two brothers eyes is more integral to what they unlock thereafter (and the properties of both Itachi’s and Sasuke’s Mangekyo’s span a broad amount of techniques).
The validity of this technique is formed on the basis that the more important the Uchiha to the storyline, the more “hax” (term to describe how powerful or unfair a technique is) their techniques that define them will be. To put it in to perspective…
Madara’s “hax” technique is Perfect Susano’o, which Sasuke has obtained. Madara is integral to the story but not as much as….
Obito. Obito has inarguably the most hax technique in the manga in Kamui, and as such, he is the main antagonist.
Sasuke is the main Uchiha in the entire plot and as such he will gain a technique on the same level of “hax” as Kamui, that being the manipulation of time; Yomi.
5. The dichotomy of the Savior (Rikudou) and destroyer (Juubi) and how it is reflected by Naruto and Obito respectively.
The Naruto Manga as a whole has shaped up to be a Messiah v Anti-Messiah archtype. The start of it all, was a battle between Rikudou (Savior; Messiah) and Juubi (Destroyer; Anti-Messiah). Ultimately, this is being mirrored with in the current manga happenings and is reflected by Naruto (Rikudou) and Obito (Juubi).
After Naruto awakens his final power-ups (Assuming they are of the same that I described) the mirrored battle that was done centuries prior between Rikudou and the Juubi will happen once more, done by Naruto and Obito (Pseudo 10 tails Cloak with BSM and Rinnegan vs Current Obito), with Naruto coming out as the obvious victor.
This was basically confirmed because of statements within these scans:
Obito was noted to be the Harbinger of destruction (Destroyer) and Naruto was paralleled to Rikudou (Savior). It’s a forgone conclusion to say the least.
Final TOP 5
1. Uzumaki Naruto full potential (Rikudou essence Cloak w/ Full Kurama, Bijuu Sennin Modo & Rinnegan)
2. Uchiha Sasuke full potential (Perfect Susano’o w/ Curse Mark level 3, Enton coating, various Enton techniques, Tsukuyomi on Itachi’s level & Yomi)
3. Uchiha Obito Full Potential (Juubi Jinchuriki incomplete w/ Uchiha Kinjutsu, High level Katon, Onmyoudon, Rinnegan & Mangekyou Sharingan)
4. Senju Hashirama full potential (Sennin Modo w/ Shinsenjuu, Flower Tree World, Wood Human, Wood Golem etc.)
5. Uchiha Madara Full potential (Rinnegan, Perfect Susano’o, Katon techniques, Uchiha Kinjutsu & Base Mokuton techniques)
I thank you for reading, and all your comments are well appreciated.
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As it touches upon certain thoughts in this thread that will be looked over and discussed.
Table of Contents
1. Reviewing the original theory and dissecting confirmed and or denied portions based on new evidence.
2. Discussing peculiar power-ups that Naruto could awaken based on empirical evidence within the manga (Which was established in the original thread).
3. Confirming or denying power-ups Sasuke has obtained/will obtain.
4. More in depth discussion of the rumored “Time Manipulation” (established in the original thread) and explaining the validity of the technique.
5. The dichotomy of the Savior (Rikudou) and destroyer (Juubi) and how it is reflected by Naruto and Obito respectively.
1. Reviewing the original theory
First established portion: The impossibility of the Sage being born with the Rinnegan
Now, how did Kishimoto answer this?
Here:
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So all the chakra originated from the tree. Kaguya was the first to use chakra, and Rikudou inherited her power.
“Was Rikudou born with the Rinnegan or did he gain it from the Juubi?” Yes. This is how Kishimoto answered it. In essence, the Rinnegan requires chakra so its roots are rooted within the source of all chakra; the God Tree, which is the Juubi; the overall coalescence of the 9 Bijuu’s. Rikudou most likely had the Rinnegan from birth because he inherited his mother’s powers which stemmed straight from the God Fruit (which is from the Juubi in essence). This part of the theory was a little invalidated but was still correct in the assertion that the Rinnegan comes from the Juubi.
Second established portion: How the son’s powers directly stem from the Juubi and not Rikudou
Now, this is becoming as prominent as ever due to more recent revelations in the manga. We recently learned that Kaguya, the mother of Rikudou, ate the God Fruit, which in essence IS THE JUUBI. So she gained said powers, and Rikudou inherited the abilities. The sons subsequently inherited half his powers, and as we now know, they came from the Juubi because of his mother. Like I established in the first thread, biologically, such an even split is downright impossible, and the possibility of their conceptions being mystical, as opposed to biological is more possible than ever.
Also, look at this:
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Looks at lot like Hashirama’s Wood Dragon jutsu… doesn’t it? And this is coming from the God Tree (Juubi). This to me, is confirmation that the powers are completely connected to the Juubi regarding the two sons.
Third established potion: Being the Juubi Jinchuriki grants the Jin the Rinnegan
Now this… is a little different than the other two. We’ve seen that Obito did not gain the Rinnegan in his right eye, where his Sharingan resides. However, we do know that ALL CHAKRA COMES FROM THE JUUBI. Now, how did Rikudou gain his powers (and his renowned Rinnegan which Jiraiya noted was one of his prominent characteristics)? He inherited his abilities from his mother which came from the Juubi. So from either one, being the Jinchuriki or inheriting his mother’s powers (which as I have noted multiple times, come from the Juubi’s essence), he gained the Rinnegan. So this portion of the thread is confirmed of some merit because of the way Kishimoto answered it.
Fourth established portion: Explaining how it is possible for Naruto to awaken the Rinnegan
Will be explained in later in the thread when discussing Naruto’s powers…
Fifth established portion: Proving how anybody with the Eien No Mangekyou gains Perfect Susano’o
This was undoubtedly confirmed due to this scan in the latest chapter:
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It shares identical similarities with the nose that is present on Madara’s Susano’o:
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And Sasuke has already shown the use of legs on his Susano’o; so he has met the pre-requisites to attain the Eien No Mangekyou’s highest powered Susano’o; Stabilized Final Susano’o (Perfect Susano’o). To deny this would be denying the obvious.
That concludes the dissection of the original established portions of the prior theory,
2. Discussing peculiar power-ups that Naruto could awaken based on empirical evidence within the manga
Now, Naruto is an oddity in terms of power-ups. Some believe that him and Sasuke with their rudimentary power will be able to defeat Obito with a mere (in the contextual fight against Obito, this fusion is a mere additive which will barely phase Obito) Susano’o-Kurama Avatar fusion. What they fail to understand is that it will take a lot more to even thwart him at all. But to continue… I will discuss what is confirmed so far, and what is obvious to happen in the future…
Confirmed: Naruto was able to merge his Bijuu Mode with his Sennin Modo to create a new form, known as “Bijuu Sennin Modo” or BSM for short. Now, we have not gained ample feats to display the power of this mode, but we can speculate on the overall capabilities of it based on the modes at hand (BM and SM).
Now, in this instance, Naruto is adding SM to BM. When he was first using SM, he entered it from base, and effectively became more powerful than his base. But in this case… His Bijuu Modo is his base. So the variables that allowed Naruto to combat Pein (From base to SM) are even more threatening to an opponent because Bijuu Modo is significantly more powerful on its own than Sage Mode Naruto. To think that Bijuu Modo is considered the aforementioned base in this instance is insane. The power multiplication variables are bound to be of immense proportions.
Sage Mode grants increases to all three Major jutsu types, increased speed, immense sensing capabilities, and increased durability. Bijuu Mode grants OBSCENE SPEED, increased durability (Tanked a Juubi dama laser), and a boost to every technique Naruto uses (was able to use Double Rasenshuriken in separate hands). What we can conclude:
1. Naruto is unmatched in sensing ability as BM has negative sensing, normal sensing and SM itself has amazing sensing. Such overlapping variables will make Naruto nearly unhittable as he will always anticipate an incoming attack.
2. Naruto will possibly be able to sustain his immense speed showcased in prior chapters to the point that he can use consecutive shunsins in a “Blitzing” manner.
3. Naruto’s attacks in this mode will be unrivalled bar Juubi Obito due to the overlapping variables of SM and BM’s Ninjutsu prowess as a whole.
Concurrent with the Sensing conclusion:
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Naruto is still adapting to the mode, but with the conclusion we made based on logical inferences, it should begin to flesh out.
Obvious
The other half of Kurama (Yin) is a forgone certainty for Naruto to obtain. It is just a matter of time before Naruto obtains the other half and gains more power, and becomes “100% Kurama Bijuu Sennin Modo”.
Possible based on empirical observation
Now… as some may know about me, I’m an advocate of Naruto obtaining the Rinnegan… Which I believe will be his final Power-up (which will supersede the obtaining of two other power-ups as a whole but both will ultimately link with his awakening of the Dojutsu).
As it has been established, all chakra comes from the Jubi (God Tree). As we have concluded in part 1, Rikudou obtained his Rinnegan from the Juubi, irrelevant to the fact he was the Jinchuriki later on; his powers came from the Juubi from birth. The Juubi’s composition consists of all 9 Bijuu. Naruto has 50% Kurama (ultimately will obtain the Yin Half) and the chakra of 6 other Bijuu. He is ultimately lacking Shukaku and Gyuki. But the implication that Kurama himself comprises more of the Juubi than any other Bijuu (which is rather obvious given the huge power-gap between Kurama and all the other Bijuu at a mere 50% total chakra). But regardless of this, those beasts comprise the Juubi and the Juubi’s influence (the Fruit is the Juubi’s essence) allows the awakening of the Rinnegan (concluded from the first portion of the thread).
The culmination of the chakra the Bijuu’s gave Naruto and Kurama’s other half will be integral to Naruto awakening the Rinnegan. Another thing to note, we know that Obito’s appearance changed to fit the “Rikudou” type look… Correct? Well he looks like that because of the Juubi’s influence. Now that we know Rikudou inherited his mother’s powers which came from the Juubi’s essence, we know why Rikudou looks like he does (with the horns primarily). Naruto with just 50% Kurama looks very similar to the Rikudou silhouette. With the other half and the influence from the other Bijuu’s, Naruto’s appearance will change once more and embody Rikudou even more. Something like this:
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This look also complies with the addition of SM to Naruto’s BM as it has the SM markings around his eyes.
So to summarize:
1. Naruto will awaken the Rinnegan because of the Bijuu’s chakra culminating within him.
2. Naruto’s form will change once more as a full “Rikudou cloak” will form.
Final Naruto: Rinnegan w/ 100% Bijuu Sennin Modo & Rikudou essence cloak
3. Confirming or denying power-ups Sasuke has obtained/will obtain.
Confirmed (as of the latest chapter and what I concluded in the first part): Sasuke will/has obtained the infamous Perfect Susano’o. As I established in the first part of this theory (Cogitation) any Eien No Mangekyou user upon having the eyes has the sufficient chakra supply from the donor’s eyes to utilize the Final Form of Susano’o and subsequently stabilize it.
Possible
Now… Sasuke has already had this power, but never to full effect. This power is the power of the Curse Mark. We’ve seen in the recent manga revelations that Juugo helped Sasuke utilize Senjutsu chakra because Sasuke absorbed some of Juugo’s flesh due to their inherent compatibility. This is integral to what I will propose here….
Sasuke will absorb Juugo as a whole and gain a higher form of the Curse Mark (above Level two) which would be reminiscent as the once theorized “Curse Mark Level 3”.
As seen here:
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Juugo’s transfer of his passive absorption of natural energy was a success. This is integral to this proposition as a whole because Juugo’s ability to do so when he is in his body gave Sasuke an appearance almost identical to Sasuke’s old Curse Mark level 1 form. If Sasuke were to absorb Juugo fully, the effects will be much more “whole” and would transcend CM V2 because CM V2 was created from Juugo’s spliced DNA; to obtain the entire portion of the DNA would let the essence of the Curse Mark become even more powerful.
Continuing on a different note… Sasuke will obtain a new, never before seen EMS technique known as “Time Manipulation” which I will refer to as “Yomi” from now on. However, the discussion of this topic is in a different area of this thread and will be elaborated on fully there.
What we can conclude (from the first portion regarding CM V3) is that Sasuke’s Susano’o will be immense, and he will be able to coat (like he has been able to like any other state of Susano’o) it in Enton for added versatility. With a Senjutsu Perfect Susano’o coated in Enton, Sasuke will be handily above EMS Madara and roughly on par with Madara who has Kurama (VoTE). The over the edge factor to surpass Edo Madara (which Orochimaru was referring to) will be the never before seen EMS technique.
Sasuke’s full potential still hasn’t been shown and he was blessed with the most powerful Mangekyou in the manga because of the amount of techniques he has (Madara has only shown Susano’o prowess, Obito only has Kamui and Itachi showed prowess only in Tsukuyomi and was never able to manipulate Ama in to Enton. Sasuke has both PS, Enton and a lesser form of Tsukuyomi, but it may be on par with Itachi’s now because Sasuke now has Itachi’s eyes).
Final Sasuke: Enton Senjutsu Perfect Susano’o w/ Fused Juugo flesh fully (CM V3) and Yomi
4. More in depth discussion of the rumored “Time Manipulation” (established in the original thread) and explaining the validity of the technique.
Amaterasu is the physical power that the MS gives. It is the physical amalgamation that the Mangekyou allows. It’s opposite; Tsukuyomi is entirely spiritual and allows control over the spiritual world residing in the Genjutsu. We know from Itachi that when one gains the EMS, it gives birth to an entirely new Dojutsu; with its own techniques. This could be the new found power of Sasuke's EMS.
Now what is this you ask? Well… We have to note first; Sasuke is the only Uchiha in the series that awakened an entirely new KKG with his Mangekyou. So awakening a new technique when he gained a higher Dojutsu is highly probable given the track record of Sasuke’s Dojutsu techniques and their timeline.
Affixing perception to a "more" physical level would be the basis for the technique. Sasuke’s technique, called Yomi, would tread on his ability to manipulate both Enton (which he has mastered as the physical ability of the Mangekyou) and Tsukuyomi (Spiritual, which he inherited from his brother's eyes). But not Enton nor Tsukuyomi, but the actual properties surrounding them (controlling both the physical aspect of the Mangekyou and the spiritual aspect of the Mangekyou and using them in subsequent unison).
Now where did I base this off of?
This scan:
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He “feels” Itachi’s power flowing through him. This is not merely an indication, but rather in context this is definite that Sasuke has acquired Itachi’s powers on some kind of level. Itachi’s Douryoku (MS powers) are supplementing the new light of Sasuke.
Sasuke still has retained his MS abilities and on top has Itachi’s. This new jutsu will be a supposed “combination” of the prominent abilities of both of them: Manipulation of Shape Manipulation (Sasuke’s Amaterasu) and Manipulation of time inside the Genjutsu (Itachi’s Tsukuyomi) into a more physical level of time manipulation and perception. The ability will be like a “merger” between the two brothers. Much like how gaining EMS grants a new Dojutsu, gaining the brothers MS grants a new Dojutsu technique because of the combination of the eye techniques. Perfect Susano’o comes with the Eien No Mangekyou regardless. The “merger” between two brothers eyes is more integral to what they unlock thereafter (and the properties of both Itachi’s and Sasuke’s Mangekyo’s span a broad amount of techniques).
The validity of this technique is formed on the basis that the more important the Uchiha to the storyline, the more “hax” (term to describe how powerful or unfair a technique is) their techniques that define them will be. To put it in to perspective…
Madara’s “hax” technique is Perfect Susano’o, which Sasuke has obtained. Madara is integral to the story but not as much as….
Obito. Obito has inarguably the most hax technique in the manga in Kamui, and as such, he is the main antagonist.
Sasuke is the main Uchiha in the entire plot and as such he will gain a technique on the same level of “hax” as Kamui, that being the manipulation of time; Yomi.
5. The dichotomy of the Savior (Rikudou) and destroyer (Juubi) and how it is reflected by Naruto and Obito respectively.
The Naruto Manga as a whole has shaped up to be a Messiah v Anti-Messiah archtype. The start of it all, was a battle between Rikudou (Savior; Messiah) and Juubi (Destroyer; Anti-Messiah). Ultimately, this is being mirrored with in the current manga happenings and is reflected by Naruto (Rikudou) and Obito (Juubi).
After Naruto awakens his final power-ups (Assuming they are of the same that I described) the mirrored battle that was done centuries prior between Rikudou and the Juubi will happen once more, done by Naruto and Obito (Pseudo 10 tails Cloak with BSM and Rinnegan vs Current Obito), with Naruto coming out as the obvious victor.
This was basically confirmed because of statements within these scans:
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Obito was noted to be the Harbinger of destruction (Destroyer) and Naruto was paralleled to Rikudou (Savior). It’s a forgone conclusion to say the least.
Final TOP 5
1. Uzumaki Naruto full potential (Rikudou essence Cloak w/ Full Kurama, Bijuu Sennin Modo & Rinnegan)
2. Uchiha Sasuke full potential (Perfect Susano’o w/ Curse Mark level 3, Enton coating, various Enton techniques, Tsukuyomi on Itachi’s level & Yomi)
3. Uchiha Obito Full Potential (Juubi Jinchuriki incomplete w/ Uchiha Kinjutsu, High level Katon, Onmyoudon, Rinnegan & Mangekyou Sharingan)
4. Senju Hashirama full potential (Sennin Modo w/ Shinsenjuu, Flower Tree World, Wood Human, Wood Golem etc.)
5. Uchiha Madara Full potential (Rinnegan, Perfect Susano’o, Katon techniques, Uchiha Kinjutsu & Base Mokuton techniques)
I thank you for reading, and all your comments are well appreciated.
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