Clearing up the confusion on who the strongest Hokage is......

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That doesn't take away that they raped him up in the butt hole,right?

Sandaime Raikage went against 10,000 ninjas and came out alive.He is tiers above him

Jiraiya said Tsunade's blow would kill an individual.​
The raikage is simply suited for fighting like that.... his stamina,endurance all of that were the reason he lasted that long... and raikage died didn't he o.0

Also we don't know the strength level of the 10k people raikage went against... Look at this current war...look at the ninja.. majority of them are fodder , then there are the few known characters....
 

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Seems like i need to clarify something. Bee countered minato. It wasnt a lucky guess, he knew exactly where minato would appear. Seriously i cannot believe im about to explain this. Seems like minato fans dont know how his technique (ftg) works.

Basically he teleports to where he leaves a seal/tag;
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Now the cloud ninja's have info on minato and his technique, Similarly leaf had info on A;
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Now the 8 tails tentacles comes from bee's back;
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Now minato marks bee's tentacles;

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Now we know that minato teleports to where the ftg tags/kunai's are.
We also know that both villages had info on each other.
We also know that bee's tentacles comes from his back, meaning since minato left a tag on his tentacles and his tentacles comes from his back, if he teleports he would teleport to where the tag is which is bee's back. Its the info on how his technique works that allowed bee to predict and counter minato because he knew where he would teleport.

Bee isnt as dumb as people think
 
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Seems like i need to clarify something. Bee countered minato. It wasnt a lucky guess, he knew exactly where minato would appear. Seriously i cannot believe im about to explain this. Seems like minato fans dont know how his technique (ftg) works.

Basically he teleports to where he leaves a seal/tag;
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Now the cloud ninja's have info on minato and his technique, Similarly leaf had info on A;
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Now the 8 tails tentacles comes from bee's back;
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Now minato marks bee's tentacles;

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Now we know that minato teleports to where the ftg tags/kunai's are.
We also know that both villages had info on each other.
We also know that bee's tentacles comes from his back, meaning since minato left a tag on his tentacles and his tentacles comes from his back, if he teleports he would teleport to where the tag is which is bee's back. Its the info on how his technique works that allowed bee to predict and counter minato because he knew where he would teleport
Nice, but they won't listen U_U
 

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Still unsure about the whole, "Kishi states" thing. He never makes a direct statement on Hiruzen, does he?

Those databook quotes seem to be Kishi repeating what characters once said.
 

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Will continue replying to you guys tomorrow,need to get some sleep.
The raikage is simply suited for fighting like that.... his stamina,endurance all of that were the reason he lasted that long... and raikage died didn't he o.0
Not sure,but he fought for 3 days and 3 nights.
The stamina issue is irrelevant when considering the other factors like strength of jutsus,taijutsu,intelligence etc.Which is compulsory to win any kind of battle.
Tobirama didn't had such sufficient mastery over those areas and hence why he lost.

Raikage did not.

Also we don't know the strength level of the 10k people raikage went against... Look at this current war...look at the ninja.. majority of them are fodder , then there are the few known characters....
The ten thousand armies are stronger than a ten thousand of konohamaru.​

stop trolling ><
These are the truth.​
 
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Not sure,but he fought for 3 days and 3 nights. The stamina issue is irrelevant when considering the other factors like strength of jutsus,taijutsu,intelligence etc.Which is compulsory to win any kind of battle. Tobirama didn't had such sufficient mastery over those areas and hence why he lost. Raikage did not.
Basically the question i'm about to ask you is:

Would the 3rd Raikage have survived Tobirama's predicament? Because the answer is no.
 

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So many people can't read. Can anybody show me where it said that Hashirama was the greatest Hokage to have ever lived? I only need one scan.. or at least show me where it was implied?
 

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just like the rikudo sennin :shrug:
*sigh* that just says there aren't ninjas around nowadays who are on Hashirama's level. That means ninjas who are dead could've been on his level. They called his power a myth like the rikudo sennin; doesn't mean he's anywhere near his level, just means that people didn't realise his power or couldn't believe it; like a myth. Moreover, this says nothing about him being the strongest Hokage.
 

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just like the rikudo sennin :shrug:
People who heard about his powers.They didn't even see his techniques, so how can they judge his techniques? Not like he actually shares a nickname with the sage himself. All we learned form that quote is that Hashirama, on paper, had some amazing techniques (just like S06P). Nothing about him being equal to the sage, or him being stronger than the dead people.
 

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*sigh* that just says there aren't ninjas around nowadays who are on Hashirama's level. That means ninjas who are dead could've been on his level. They called his power a myth like the rikudo sennin; doesn't mean he's anywhere near his level, just means that people didn't realise his power or couldn't believe it; like a myth. Moreover, this says nothing about him being the strongest Hokage.
"there aren't ninjas on the same level of the 1st hokage hashirama anymore, all the people agree with that"

where did you got that nowadays ?

and you can't really ignore that hype, being compared to the sage is not something happen casually,

but then again the databook said it was hiruzen,
all i want say that in this page its imply that hashirama could have be the strongest hokage and lets wait for the databook U_U

you don't really have to use *sigh*, keep it civil none of us looking for a fight, we are here to discuss about something that confirmed and unconfirmed, but lets not cross the line :rolleyes:


People who heard about his powers.They didn't even see his techniques, so how can they judge his techniques? Not like he actually shares a nickname with the sage himself. All we learned form that qoute is that Hashirama, on paper, had some amazing techniques (just like S06P). Nothing about him being equal to the sage, or him being stronger than the dead people.
out of all dead hokage, only hiruzen hype that can probably match him
beside hashirama i never saw any character being compared to the sage,

and yeah people heard about his power, and they heard that from the people who actually witness hashirama prowess there is a possibility that it was exaggerated,
but then again one of hashirama jutsu take down all the 5th kage like totally

oh and also i never say something like hashirama and the sage is equal, nor do i have problem about hiruzen is better than hashirama(until the manga/databook stated it)

but in that page its clearly imply that hashirama is THE BOSS
 
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"there aren't ninjas on the same level of the 1st hokage hashirama anymore, all the people agree with that"

where did you got that nowadays ?

and you can't really ignore that hype, being compared to the sage is not something happen casually,

but then again the databook said it was hiruzen,
all i want say that in this page its imply that hashirama could have be the strongest hokage and lets wait for the databook U_U

you don't really have to use *sigh*, keep it civil none of us looking for a fight, we are here to discuss about something that confirmed and unconfirmed, but lets not cross the line :rolleyes:
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What does anymore mean? That means these days, right now, nowadays, at this moment. The word anymore also implies that there was a time when there were on Hashirama's level.

Does it even mention the word Hokage? How can you conclude that it implies he's the strongest Hokage?
 
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STFU Siyo

you have based your decisions based on ridiculously false hype and databook
stat totals.

your opinion here is jack shit espicially when you always try to force your opinions on others.
Excuse me, who are you?

Do me a favor and look up these things:

1)Canon
2)Burden of prove

When you have managed that, you can start cleaning your mouth before talking to me again otherwise I will ignore you.

Thank you.
 
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