Clearing up the confusion on who the strongest Hokage is......

[Ryuu..]

Black Zetsu: "An expert with a pebble can still beat a novice with a shuriken.

LOL yeah and?......................................Would you care to elaborate on such irrelevant f*ckaries?

 

[Naruto N. Uzumaki]

i think if tobirama didn't mark his irw forbidden and continued it he would of surpassed everybody and gained tons (izuna,madara,hashirama) of dna he could of use if we talking about potential then with his unknown s/t jutsu it could be so6p>tobirama>others

 

[Ryuu..]

i think if tobirama didn't mark his irw forbidden and continued it he would of surpassed everybody and collated tons of dna he could of use if we talking about potential then with his unknown s/t jutsu it could be so6p>tobirama>others

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[Naruto N. Uzumaki]

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its true look at kabuto he finished his work and look how op it is
in intelligence for me it's
tobirama
orochimaru
kabuto

 

[TheBattousai]

just out of curiosity, if Hiruzen knew all of the jutsu in Konoha....wouldn't that mean he knew FTG? If so, that would be his counter for FTG. Before anybody says "no, he didn't know it or else he would have used it against oro." I'm just going off of facts. Manga says he knew all of Konoha's jutsu, FTG was a jutsu used by Minato of Konoha. This means FTG is/was a jutsu in Konoha. Therefore, Hiruzen knew FTG. The only argument you could make, is that KG are exempt the manga statement since you need to be of a specific clan. However, FTG is not a KG.

Sorry if somebody else pointed this out, but by page 7 i got sick of reading the back and forth arguing so i stopped reading

 

[Owarij]

just out of curiosity, if Hiruzen knew all of the jutsu in Konoha....wouldn't that mean he knew FTG? If so, that would be his counter for FTG. Before anybody says "no, he didn't know it or else he would have used it against oro." I'm just going off of facts. Manga says he knew all of Konoha's jutsu, FTG was a jutsu used by Minato of Konoha. This means FTG is/was a jutsu in Konoha. Therefore, Hiruzen knew FTG. The only argument you could make, is that KG are exempt the manga statement since you need to be of a specific clan. However, FTG is not a KG.

Sorry if somebody else pointed this out, but by page 7 i got sick of reading the back and forth arguing so i stopped reading

it never said he knew all the jutsu of konoha.. i hate hearing that..

THAT was one of THE worst translations to ever be known .....

The official viz manga , and on or two manga sites have the correct one..

"You WERE once called the professor for knowing and being able to use all EXISTING konoha jutsu"

1)Orochimaru talked in past tense.. He did not know them all anymoe
2) The word existing

- -ex·ist·ing/igˈzistiNG/
Adjective:
In existence or operation at the time under consideration; current.
Synonyms:
existent - present - being - extant - in existence
​

This means that ONLY jutsu that were known my konoha ninja only AT the time he was appointed the title in the past...

 

[Ryuu..]

its true look at kabuto he finished his work and look how op it is
in intelligence for me it's
tobirama
orochimaru
kabuto

But do you have proof or is that just purely based on your opinion?

 

[BloodSeed]

LOL yeah and?......................................Would you care to elaborate on such irrelevant f*ckaries?

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[Ryuu..]

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Kishi > Anything you may believe to be true my friend.

 

[Naruto N. Uzumaki]

But do you have proof or is that just purely based on your opinion?

these no proof but all i can saying is the inventing part of a jutsu always the hard part and tobirama must of used it for him to make it forbidden and if he was smart enough to bring the dead back am sure in intelligence

so6p>tobirama>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every ninja

 

[Ryuu..]

these no proof but all i can saying is the inventing part of a jutsu always the hard part and tobirama must of used it for him to make it forbidden and if he was smart enough to bring the dead back am sure in intelligence

so6p>tobirama>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every ninja

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[BloodSeed]

Madara is my favourite character. Rikudomadara. Clown.

Or do you think Minato > Madara :|

yes thats the INTENT convincing people that hiruzen>hashirama>minato therefore it will not be minato>hiruzen or hashirama. WHY???? because HASHIRAMA>MADARA

IF minato>hashirama?
then minato>madara

HMMM some hidden agenda i can see through you :rofl:

 

[Ryuu..]

yes thats the INTENT convincing people that hiruzen>hashirama>minato therefore it will not be minato>hiruzen or hashirama. WHY???? because HASHIRAMA>MADARA

IF minato>hashirama?
then minato>madara

HMMM some hidden agenda i can see through you :rofl:

Let me make this easy for you:

Hashirama > Minato due to feats, hype and:

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Unless you think Minato is comparable to So6P................................

Hiruzen > Minato due to:

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Kishi said so

 

[BloodSeed]

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Kishi > Anything you may believe to be true my friend.

its funny im the one that should say that onto you because you said how minato counter a thousand jutsu and i post a scan. and what did you reply this? it FITS for you :rofl:

 

[Ryuu..]

its funny im the one that should say that onto you because you said how minato counter a thousand jutsu and i post a scan. and what did you reply this? it FITS for you :rofl:

How can Minato counter all existing jutsu in Konoha?

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Oh wait, you think FTG was that unbeatable, superpowered Jutsu that even So6P said was just too epic......................................What did the scan show? Jiraiya saying something about a shinobi not needing to know 1000's of jutsu? Doesn't mean Minato can counter them.

I think you're really confused :|

 

[Naruto N. Uzumaki]

i think allot of thing said in part one ware a bit over the top am sure prime Hiruzen cant beat madara and kurama

minato had to die to stop kurama
and am sure Hiruzen cant control/suppress 9 bijuu

 

[ajpn920]

Dude all Minato have is speed....Yall acting like he has the whole damn package ....Hashirima...stronger than Minato...Hiruzen > Hashirima....I guess i agree

What are you talking about? Minato is a hokage and you say that he only had speed? He was able to create s-ranks jutsus and was said to be RARE genius once in a generation. If you think he don't have any other jutsu's then you better read the requirement to be a hokage.

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1000 skills to be a Hokage and being such a genius he may have created elemental jutsus.

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It's pretty clear that jounins have AT LEAST two affinities. So, do you think Minato had speed only??:flaw:

 

[Ryuu..]

i think allot of thing said in part one ware a bit over the top am sure prime Hiruzen cant beat madara and kurama

minato had to die to stop kurama
and am sure Hiruzen cant control/suppress 9 bijuu

YOU think they were over the top. As of yet Kishi still believes them to be true. Hence, they are 100% truth/fact.

 

[Naruto N. Uzumaki]

YOU think they were over the top. As of yet Kishi still believes them to be true. Hence, they are 100% truth/fact.

maybe but i think he would change a few thing if he could

 

[Ryuu..]

maybe but i think he would change a few thing if he could

Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr he created the manga so if he wanted to change it he would.

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