Clearing up the confusion on who the strongest Hokage is......

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thank god for you and this thread otherwise i might never form an opinion of my own thank you so much man +rep
 

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I just dont see how you can jump all over Hashirama, who you have not seen in battle besides when Orochimaru summoned him, to Minato
 

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I just dont see how you can jump all over Hashirama, who you have not seen in battle besides when Orochimaru summoned him, to Minato

What? Are you saying Minato > Hashirama?
 

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this thread still didnt prove anything ... the manga contradicts constantly .. people use the quote of kabuto saying the 3rd is the strongest hokage in part 1
.. but look who kabuto is saying the strongest of all time is now ? reread the last chapter if you need to be reminded
 

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this thread still didnt prove anything ... the manga contradicts constantly .. people use the quote of kabuto saying the 3rd is the strongest hokage in part 1
.. but look who kabuto is saying the strongest of all time is now ? reread the last chapter if you need to be reminded

So? Kishi has said Hiruzen is the strongest so Hiruzen is the strongest.
 

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+ rep for correct list because minato wan't the strongest because he never reached his full potential/ prime so hiruzen remains the strongest then mokuton man xd
 

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+ rep for correct list because minato wan't the strongest because he never reached his full potential/ prime so hiruzen remains the strongest then mokuton man xd

Thanks xd
 

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Good thread. You made one blunder in my opinion.

1. Hashirama Senju
2. Hiruzen (Prime)
3. Minato
4.Tobirama Senju
5. Big Tits Tsunade
 

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So? Kishi has said Hiruzen is the strongest so Hiruzen is the strongest.

im not gonna do the "kishi said" thing unless he himself clearly displays it through writing in the manga . but sure, everyone is entitled to there own opinion
 

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im not gonna do the "kishi said" thing unless he himself clearly displays it through writing in the manga . but sure, everyone is entitled to there own opinion

Kishi said it in all 3 data books. Or are you now suggesting Kishi is wrong?
 

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Kishi said it in all 3 data books. Or are you now suggesting Kishi is wrong?

like i said im not doing the kishi said thing nor am i going by the databook ... look at the actual manga ... you really think hashirama would be bested by hiruzen ? prime or not ?
it has yet to be proven and my opinion on the matter is still hashirama > hiruzen until the manga proves otherwise
 

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like i said im not doing the kishi said thing nor am i going by the databook ... look at the actual manga ... you really think hashirama would be bested by hiruzen ? prime or not ?
it has yet to be proven and my opinion on the matter is still hashirama > hiruzen until the manga proves otherwise

how has the manga proved Hashirama > Hiruzen prime? When Kabuto and Iruka have both said Hiruzen is the strongest hokage ever..................
 

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how has the manga proved Hashirama > Hiruzen prime? When Kabuto and Iruka have both said Hiruzen is the strongest hokage ever..................

ahh nevermind . you call others narrowminded but you seem to be the only one with your ears shut and mouth open .
anything kabuto and iruka have said previously means nothing now . kabuto was obviusly jus hyping hiruzen up considering all his research is revolving around hashirama and madara now . he jus stated that hashirama is the strongest shinobi only second to the sage himself . so that overrules wat he said in part 1 by far. he said his power was considered a fairy tale to those who didnt know of it .. so my guess is that in part1 kabuto himself didnt no about the 1st's powers .
what iruka said is pointless simply cuz hes a fodder who got buttraped by hiruzen as a child, so he naturally rode hiruzens meat growing up lol
you had a better argument with the databook thing .
 

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couldn't agree more.. Hiruzen the third > other kages. It is stated several times that he was the strongest of all the Kages in his prime.. God I wish I could see it.
 

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ahh nevermind . you call others narrowminded but you seem to be the only one with your ears shut and mouth open .
anything kabuto and iruka have said previously means nothing now . kabuto was obviusly jus hyping hiruzen up considering all his research is revolving around hashirama and madara now . he jus stated that hashirama is the strongest shinobi only second to the sage himself . so that overrules wat he said in part 1 by far. he said his power was considered a fairy tale to those who didnt know of it .. so my guess is that in part1 kabuto himself didnt no about the 1st's powers .
what iruka said is pointless simply cuz hes a fodder who got buttraped by hiruzen as a child, so he naturally rode hiruzens meat growing up lol
you had a better argument with the databook thing .

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Kabuto said there aren't ninjas nowadays who were on the 1st Hokage's level. That rules out all dead shinobi a.k.a Hiruzen.
 

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Oh one more thing. Kabuto said Hashirama's power was considered a fairy tale. So maybe the younger generation believe Hiruzen to be the strongest because they hadnt seen Hashirama in action and didnt believe all the tales they heard about him.
Kind of like how if you ask anyone below 20 who the best footballer ever to live is they'll most likely say Messi.
 

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Kabuto said there aren't ninjas nowadays who were on the 1st Hokage's level. That rules out all dead shinobi a.k.a Hiruzen.

he speaks more highly of him then he ever has of hiruzen .. hiruzen is irrelevent to the manga now .. nobody talks about him, let alone even new about him outside of the village . pretty sure if he was thought of this highly he would still be somewhat involved in the plot . i hope the next chapter will clear more of this up with alittle more talk of hashirama/madara/sage
 

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he speaks more highly of him then he ever has of hiruzen .. hiruzen is irrelevent to the manga now .. nobody talks about him, let alone even new about him outside of the village . pretty sure if he was thought of this highly he would still be somewhat involved in the plot . i hope the next chapter will clear more of this up with alittle more talk of hashirama/madara/sage

At the end of the day you want to disregard the only thing which really matters; what Kishi says. And he says Hiruzen is the strongest. You just don't want to accept this hence why you won't 'do the kishi thing...............'
 
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