So you're saying Tobi knows he has access to all abilities but is instead using the strategy of controlling pierced jinchuriki, in the process losing huge amounts of chakra...in return for what....a better result than just using the usual pain paths? I don't understand why thats a better strategy for this battle, or any battle!
Now first of all , the only reason I made this thread ..is because of the fact that there are many people that are confused about something in the latest chapter and they keep creating threads about it , I've posted a clarification on this subject in another thread but unfortunately not many saw it , so this is just to clear up the subject hopefully for good ..
so , this is for people that are confused about the reason why Tobi didn't use the Rinnegan at the last page of the latest chapter and why he didn't use the Paths' ability during the whole battle ..
I'm gonna start with the reason why Tobi didn't use the Paths' ability during the battle :
now if you look at this page from chapter 567 (Page 13) {This is right after Kakashi and Gai arrived at the scene}
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here Gai is wondering why Tobi isn't using the ability of the Paths like Pain ..and the answer (as observed by Gai and Kakashi) is that : Tobi already knows that they have counters for the abilities as they already have information from when they fought Pain , now you will say that they can't have counters for every single thing , and that's indeed true ..but the thing that you are over-looking here is that ..Tobi is not like Nagato , Nagato is an Uzumaki , and the Uzumaki are known for their huge chakra reserves ..that is the reason why Nagato controlled the paths and used their abilities freely including jutsus like : (Chou Shinra Tensei , Chibaku Tensei) , now I don't think Tobi is an Uzumaki ..so he can't risk using the abilities knowing that they drain huge amount of chakra ..and besides that , he was controlling 7 Jinchuriki with their Bijuus ..and that alone drains an excessive amount of chakra ! .
Now for the second part , Why didn't he use the Preta path to absorb the Rasengan :
now the answer is really simple .. What you're all over-looking here is that Tobi had absolutely no time for him to react ... Naruto was so close , because he is Insanely fast in Bijuu mode , he was literally in front of his face !
(tl;dr version)
Tobi didn't use the Paths' ability from the beginning of the battle : because he doesn't have huge chakra reserves like Nagato(who is an Uzumaki) , and he was already controlling 7 Jinchuriki which alone drained an excessive amount of chakra from him
as for the second confusion about the last page of the latest chapter : Tobi had no time to react because Naruto was literally in front of his face .
so that's all I wanted to clarify , I hope I helped , thanks for taking the time to read !..
So your trying to tell me that someone with Hashirama's DNA doesnt have enough chakra to perform Rinnegan techniques?!? The same person that was able to simutameously control 5 jinchurriki and force them to all go bijuu mode?!? WTF MAN
So your trying to tell me that someone with Hashirama's DNA doesnt have enough chakra to perform Rinnegan techniques?!? The same person that was able to simutameously control 5 jinchuriki and force them to all go bijuu mode?!? WTF MAN
Wow calm down man ! .. The reason for that is because the same thing you just stated , it's because he wasted too much chakra controlling 5 jinchuriki simultaneously and forcing them to all go bijuu mode ..That alone drained an excessive amount of chakra from him , and don't forget the Uchiha Kaenjin jutsu he performed to protect the Gedo Mazo ..not only that , but he used Kamui Jikukan Ninjutsu a hell of alot of times .
So you're saying Tobi knows he has access to all abilities but is instead using the strategy of controlling pierced jinchuriki, in the process losing huge amounts of chakra...in return for what....a better result than just using the usual pain paths? I don't understand why thats a better strategy for this battle, or any battle!
It seems you didn't read the first part of the OP .., Tobi already knew that they have prior knowledge and strategic counters to the abilities of the Paths , from their fight with Pain ..so Tobi won't risk wasting chakra on using abilities that can be countered easily with experience ..so yeah that's a better battle strategy .
Your sig is upseting, gtfo here with that shit. Naruto would own Luffy first of all. Second of all get those bitch as fruits out of here.. Ghost ghost fruit? Gum gum fruit? What are we 4 years old?
Your sig is upseting, gtfo here with that shit. Naruto would own Luffy first of all. Second of all get those bitch as fruits out of here.. Ghost ghost fruit? Gum gum fruit? What are we 4 years old?
Wow .. Calm down mate xd .. even if you are offended , it's his opinion ! , and besides .. this has nothing to do with this thread , you should've just VM'd or PM'd him this !
My theory is that Tobi just doesn't have the mastery of the abilities like Nagato. Nagato had the eyes and trained with then for decades. Tobi has had them for a few weeks/months maybe? I doubt they came with an instruction manual either. I would hope it would take some amount of training and expertise to spam out rinnengan abilities as easily as Nagato was doing.
It seems you didn't read the first part of the OP .., Tobi already knew that they have prior knowledge and strategic counters to the abilities of the Paths , from their fight with Pain ..so Tobi won't risk wasting chakra on using abilities that can be countered easily with experience ..so yeah that's a better battle strategy .
True that Pain's abilities are old but those are awesome abilities (including Naraka path's ability to restore). How do you know they can be countered? When Pain invaded Konoha, Kakashi couldn't handle Pain. Naruto also would have lost to Pain but for the nine tail fox transformation. There is no evidence to show that Pain's abilities can be countered easily. Also, by your argument no one should attempt to fight Naruto because it is known that he will transform and defeat you anyway!
So no, this is not a better strategy. Maybe he is saving chakra for the GM or he simply can't use Pain abilities or he has assembled the biju to complete GM or all of the above.
I'm not too sure about the lack of chakra problem. That could be part of it, but I feel like there's more to it. In any case, you're absolutely right about not having time to react, so +rep for that. You could probably also add that this attack was totally unexpected by Tobi. Kakashi is the only other person with access to Tobi's dimension, and Tobi just watched him collapse. He had no reason to expect anything out of the ordinary when phasing into his dimension. Long story short, Tobi was caught completely off guard.
True that Pain's abilities are old but those are awesome abilities (including Naraka path's ability to restore). How do you know they can be countered? When Pain invaded Konoha, Kakashi couldn't handle Pain. Naruto also would have lost to Pain but for the nine tail fox transformation. There is no evidence to show that Pain's abilities can be countered easily. Also, by your argument no one should attempt to fight Naruto because it is known that he will transform and defeat you anyway!
So no, this is not a better strategy. Maybe he is saving chakra for the GM or he simply can't use Pain abilities or he has assembled the biju to complete GM or all of the above.
So you're saying that Tobi should be like : " F*** it , Imma use the Paths' abilities cause they're Awesome " ?? ..that doesn't make a single bit of sense , you asked before "Why is this a better strategy ??" ..and now you're saying it doesn't matter because they are just "Awesome" ..oh and to your second point , Katsuyu knew every single weakness of each ability ..so I'm sure that by now most of the known Konoha shinobi are obviously aware of that , and they have prior knowledge as of now .
I'm not too sure about the lack of chakra problem. That could be part of it, but I feel like there's more to it. In any case, you're absolutely right about not having time to react, so +rep for that. You could probably also add that this attack was totally unexpected by Tobi. Kakashi is the only other person with access to Tobi's dimension, and Tobi just watched him collapse. He had no reason to expect anything out of the ordinary when phasing into his dimension. Long story short, Tobi was caught completely off guard.
by thanking the Original post xd , so thank you for that .. I really appreciate it ! ^^
