clearing up something about obito/madara

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When people say that Double Kamui Obito beats Double Rinnegan Madara, they are forgetting that Obito (with Kamui) was scared as hell when he told Sakura about Madara when he would get both Rinnegan.

Obito himself said that he would be invincible and he had Kamui when he said that, he even had Rikudo's chakra, he wasn't talking about a Juubi Jin having Rinnegan, but just an original owner.

I know it was a movie but Obito even ran away from Itachi when he was about to fight him.

Still love Obito tho, it's just that people try to make him invincible, when he's not.
 

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Each technique has a weakness

Kamui weakness is :

1- Speed . ( Minato is the example , even with both eyes it still has this weakness )

2- A very big object . ( The Godudama that Humanoid made is the example )

3- The time of being intangible . ( Konan is the example )


But some people think that Kamui has no weakness and they say : Kamui > Everthing .
 
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Each technique has a weakness

Kamui weakness is :

1- Speed . ( Minato is the example , even with both eyes it still has this weakness )

2- A very big object . ( The Godudama that Humanoid made is the example )

3- The time of being intangible . ( Konan is the example )


But some people think that Kamui has no weakness and they say : Kamui > Everthing .
True, but pepple here just overdo things.
 

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Blind Madara only has susanoo which can't hurt Obito if Obito has both his sharingan an he can warp Madara into kamui demension where he can never escape.
His innate sensing + sm sensing counters any kamui flank/snipe. His speed that can dodge sasuke and hirashingiri completely outpaces obito. All obito can do in that fight is run in dodge. He'll never get a touch on madara and even if he does there'll be 3 magatamas propelling into his stomach.

Ot: obito's always been extremely overrated. What's the point wasting time with this thread.
 

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Let's clear this up. After manga 690 it's safe to asume. Madara>everyone's fave.
Yet e got blitzed by 8 gates guy and one shot by black zetsu look Madara without semi DNA and as a non edo can probably take ems sasuke mid difficulty and keep in mind I'm saying that despite the fact that sasukes sharingan has ammeter say and susanoo while madara has susanoo and Izinagi. Te only reason I give this to end Madara is simply because he is Madara and Kishi implies thy end Madara is above end sasuke but I still don't see how because Kishinev gave ems sapsucker more abilities than end Madara but to say Madara is better than most characters is an overstatement. You give him too much credit.
 

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His innate sensing + sm sensing counters any kamui flank/snipe. His speed that can dodge sasuke and hirashingiri completely outpaces obito. All obito can do in that fight is run in dodge. He'll never get a touch on madara and even if he does there'll be 3 magatamas propelling into his stomach.

Ot: obito's always been extremely overrated. What's the point wasting time with this thread.
I saw another vs thread that said DMS Obito> DR Madara
 

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Yet e got blitzed by 8 gates guy and one shot by black zetsu look Madara without semi DNA and as a non edo can probably take ems sasuke mid difficulty and keep in mind I'm saying that despite the fact that sasukes sharingan has ammeter say and susanoo while madara has susanoo and Izinagi. Te only reason I give this to end Madara is simply because he is Madara and Kishi implies thy end Madara is above end sasuke but I still don't see how because Kishinev gave ems sapsucker more abilities than end Madara but to say Madara is better than most characters is an overstatement. You give him too much credit.
I managed to read that... somehow. In any case, all I got from it is that you're mad that Madara>your fave.
 

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His innate sensing + sm sensing counters any kamui flank/snipe. His speed that can dodge sasuke and hirashingiri completely outpaces obito. All obito can do in that fight is run in dodge. He'll never get a touch on madara and even if he does there'll be 3 magatamas propelling into his stomach.

Ot: obito's always been extremely overrated. What's the point wasting time with this thread.
You don't know much about Madara sensing considering it was never explained but he was able toed fend himself blind against tobirama and sasuke so I guess that indicates that he has good sensing although everything you said about him being able to sense kamui is not supported. If Obito where to hit him with kamui there is no out running it once you start getting warped it's over. There is no way for Madara to sense if ed being teleported or not an when he does relies it's happening he's already on his way to kamui world. Madara blind was able to sense moving opponents but how does he sense the whereabouts of some one who has gone itangibile? Obito when going intangible basically becomes a hologram with his actual body in the kamui dimension. There is no way for Madara to "sense" an opponent who just isn't there.

And you're forget if this is double ms Obito chances are he's going to have susanoo perfect susanoo maybe. And chances are the effects of his mangekyo are able to make his susanoo intangible. This is double ms Obito you're talking about not one ms chances are his space time techniques are way more... Remember hen juubi Jin Madara launched a bijuu dama at Kakashi and Obito and they combined there power to not only warp the bomb away but send Obito to kamui world?
 
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"they are forgetting that Obito (with Kamui) was scared as hell when he told Sakura about Madara when he would get both Rinnegan."

that line should be enough to close the thread
To be fair Obito was in no condition to fight and it would be up to Naruto I take him out alone. There is still no way for Madara to hit Obito in any form because he can't touch Obito.
 
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