Clearing up misconception cause by The latest chapter about chakra[Please read]

Do you agree with my theory ?

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  • Partially[Please explain]

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  • No

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KCMNaruto

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INTRODUCTION:
Hello guys, After reading the latest chapter some of you or even the most of readers can be confused about chakra stuff, to be specific How did people live before Princess Kaguya took and ate Forbidden fruit ?. The Problem came from Manga stating that Princess kaguya was first to use chakra and Sage of six paths named Hagoromo Ootsnuki was first human born with chakra within his body, and The manga stated before that "0% chakra means you die"... yes this is the statement which caused so much confusion. Now please continue read as I will try to explain how best I can ;)

Refference to chakra scan in The latest chapter :
These are manga panel to which I reffer:

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^^ Madara stated that: "A long time ago, when people still didn't know about the concept of chakra."

But he doesn't state that People didn't have chakra before, does he ?

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^^ This problem causes Misconception about first chakra appearance here: "She was the first human to use Chakra " "And Kaguya's Son was born with chakra already within his body"

This scan above could contradict this scan:

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Bottom left Manga panel shows "Think of it as 0% Stamina =0% chakra mean you die "

Ok, so some of you have point who think that The Manga contradict itself about chakra stuff, but now let's think what the manga states about it and let's me play in defender role of the manga for now.

What the The chakra is:
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" Chakra is the energy a shinobi needs when performing a Jutsu. That energy has two parts. The body energy that is in each of the billions of your cells. And The spiritual energy gained through training and other expieriences. The two parts are combined.

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^^ Kakashi even further prove what the chakra really is, "To release chakra means to bring out physcial and spiritual energy and mix them together within your body".

Ok, now we know what the chakra is.

Chakra= Spiritual Energy + Physical energy

+ - mixing

What the The chakra is PART 2:
Now keeping in mind that The Princess Kaguya was first human to use chakra... suggest us that People couldn't create chakra within their body before..., but what they could lack ?

Of course they had Spiritual and physical energy..., but they lacked Mixing of both energies ability, in other words they lacked Knowledge and ability before.

Ok, so now when we know that:

Shinobi = chakra(Spiritual Energy + Physical energy)
none Shinboi(civilian, Lords of the countries)

Confusion about The chakra and explanation:
How can Ebisu statement that "0% chakra means you die" can be true ?

The answer is simple, Shinobi are taught how to create chakra mixing both spiritual energy and physical energy together from The very young years, so in fact They always use chakra and "0% chakra means you die" stated by Ebisu now should be clear and simple to understand.

If you don't get it yet then I will explain. "0% chakra means you die" in Shinobi' case means that he/she used ALL Physical and spiritual energies.

While Ebisu statement holds it's meaning in Shinobi's case, then in civilians and other none shinobi's cases is completly wrong as they not have chakra itself but have all ingredients of what chakra is made of, which means that they only lack KNOWLEDGE AND ABILITY TO MIX BOTH ENERGIES. To make it simple, Civilians and other noone shinobi will die when he/she uses ALL SPIRITUAL ENERGY and PHYSICAL ENERGY.

The reason why Alliance Shinobi get attacked by The Tree God and what the Forbidden fruit truelly gives:
Also, The reason why Shinobi were attacked by The God Tree is because they have chakra naturally,passively in themselves as physical and spiritual energies mix together naturally and passively within their body. If shinobi were able to seperate both their energies and stop them from mixing then The Tree God would have not reason to attack them... In short Civilians could even lay on The Tree God and it wouldn't attack them.

For fun: Ramen Guy for the win !

Lastly, The forbidden fruit which Kaguya took and ate only gave her knowledge and ability how to mix both energies which people lacked before and maybe amplify it's chakra by few times... making it's much stronger/potent and increasing amount of it.

Forbidden fruit= Knowledge + Ability to mix both energies and recieve chakra + More powerfull/potent chakra(Quality) + bigger amount of chakra(Quanity)

The Animals and The chakra
I believe that animals didn't have chakra before The kaguya Princess took and ate The forbidden fruit... but still They had both energies: Spiritual and physical.

So There is no need for Sage of six paths or his offsprings to came into contact with animals to get them chakra... The animals as well as Mankind only lacked knowledge and ability how to mix chakra, simple as that.

That why Once the animals was taught how to mix both energies... probably heard what the Sage was speaking and explaining somehow... then they could the chakra also.

I believe that All living organisms/beings were born/created with spiritual and physcial energies within their bodies... they only lacked Knowledge and ability to recieve chakra.

I wonder how this work in plants's case ?... well we will never know probably as it is irrelevant


That all... I hope it clear up this Misconception

SUMARRY:
  • The real reason why Shinobi or people die is not 0% chakra but 0% of spiritual and physical energies needed both to be mixed to recieve chakra.
  • People didn't have chakra before only cause they lacked knowledge and ability how to mix both energies within their bodies, they just have what the chakra is made of: Spiritual energy and Physical energy
  • To live People in Narutoverse don't need chakra but ingredients which create chakra: Spiritual energy and Physical energy
  • The Shinobi with 0% chakra only die because 0% chakra= 0% spiritual energy and 0% physcial energy
  • The Shinobi are taught from early age how to mix both energies to recieve chakra so their body adapts to it and mix both energies each time they need chakra adn this is passive/ natural ability
  • The civilains to live need just: spiritual energy and physical energy
  • The Alliance shinobi were only attacked by The Tree God because they posses chakra within their bodies as result of mixing both enegies: Physical and spiritual and this is passive ability. If Shinobi could separate this chakra in any time to recieve both energies again, then The Tree God wouldn't not attack him. The civilians can actually stay close to The Tree God and it won't attack them... finally Ramen Guy for the win !(joke of course)
  • The forbidden fruit only give Knowledge and ability to mix both energies: spiritual and physical, also most likely multiplying/amplifying your current chakra by few times, making it's stronger/ more powerfull/potent and increasing it's amount of the same time.
  • All living beings/organisms were created possesing both energies: Spiritual and physcial energies since the birth, they only lacked mean: ability/knolwedge how to mix both energies to recieve chakra.

Thanks for reading !

NOTE: Now, I don't try to be smart or Captain obvious and anything like that..., My purpouse is not making me supperior to other so pelase do not take it as insult, so If someone want to express his hatefull comment then feel free to do this but remember that it won't take any impact on me ;)

I hope this help ;)
Be nice and share you thougths :)
 
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im pretty sure naruto wikia makes things perfectly clear :cool:
 

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I rather go with my theory and it goes like this

So6p is the first human with chakra. All the human in nv that uses chakra (shinobi) are related to the so6p and his offsprings. That means rikudo mated a lot :ilu:
And since animals can use chakra too, that means rikudo was into some real kinky stuff if you catch my drift ;)

but yeah GJ with your theory, Its an alright theory too
 
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well nice theory........this also explains how the shinobi regains their strength and chakra after a long battle.....
and btw u are wrong when the animal and chakra part comes...........as far as animals are concerned they use natural energy,i.e,senjutsu!!
 
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I rather go with my theory and it goes like this

So6p is the first human with chakra. All the human is nv that uses chakra (shinobi) are related to the so6p and his offsprings. That means rikudo mated a lot :ilu:
And since animals can use chakra too, that means rikudo was into some real kinky stuff if you catch my drift ;)

but yeah GJ with your theory, Its an alright theory too

Well thanks :) and also nice theory you have here ;)

well nice theory........this also explains how the shinobi regains their strength and chakra after a long battle.....and as far as animal are concerned they use natural energy....!!

Well thanks... idk about The animals because from what I remember The animals only capable of using Sage mode are able to use nature energy... I am sure that gamabunta in part 1 against Gaara used it's own chakra, not natural energy.

Could You show me scan where it says that animals use nature energy ?, it would be much appreaciated ;)
 

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i just assumed that chakra became their life force after they unlocked it
 

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i totally dissagree with this theory.
I think you are forgetting that this was not the fruit of knowlesge that existed in the garden of eden.
Madara states that all chackra belongs to the god tree, all Chakra, not knowledge of it.
Aslo why is the gof tree stealing ppls chackra? And i dont think any shinobi would be foolish enough to create chackra whilst the god tree is taking the chakra coz they would be simply wasting their spiritual and physical energies...
Moulding chackra is not passive, it is a concious process that is aided by the use of hand seals. Also when samehada sucked out chackra from the huge raccon are you suggesting that the raccon kept forming more and more chackra just for samehada? Even racoons are not that stupid. fail.
 

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I think 0 chakra will kill you, it's because people have adapted to having chakra.

Like how cavemen can eat raw meat before but now everytime we eat raw meat (some types) we get stomachache and diarhea
 

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Thanks for explaining . man . that took some confusions in me away .
 

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also i think its misunderstood u dont die when u reach zero u die when u tru to use more after zer0 chakra meter is hit
 

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I rather go with my theory and it goes like this

So6p is the first human with chakra. All the human in nv that uses chakra (shinobi) are related to the so6p and his offsprings. That means rikudo mated a lot :ilu:
And since animals can use chakra too, that means rikudo was into some real kinky stuff if you catch my drift ;)

but yeah GJ with your theory, Its an alright theory too

Or... his offspring mated a lot..... he could've only had 2 children and it would still make sense how so many people have Chakra.

And the animal thing, the circle of life..

Shinobi dies on the battlefield, maggots eat corpse, *Insert animal here* eats maggots, etc. until animals have chakra.
 

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I agree with some parts, but I have to say that the manga doesn't say that people lacked the knowledge to create chakra before they ate the fruit, like the other guy said this is not to be confused with the tree of knowledge in the bible. Before the tree, they had physical energy and maybe even a bit of spiritual energy, but the fruit gave Kaguya the "Holy power" SO6P was the one who unveiled the knowledge and secrets about chakra but what came from the god tree's fruit was pure power and ability which allowed the molding of chakra-physical + spiritual energy. Physical energy comes from regular food, water, and anything to be consumed, and this is needed to sustain life. Spiritual energy would be the spirit-breath of life, soul, the mind-psyche. The reason that the alliance shinobi were attacked is maybe because of the will of the god tree which was to get back the chakra that was stolen from it, and that energy was THE KYUUBI CHAKRA which originated with the Juubi/god tree, and without it the alliance would have already died. But the tree killed them because that was the original will of the god tree when it became the Juubi- to kill and drain back the life power stolen from it, but also because the physical bodies of the ninja had been born with chakra already mixed inside of them, so the god tree took the raw physical energy and kyuubi chakra back into itself.
 

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I agree with some parts, but I have to say that the manga doesn't say that people lacked the knowledge to create chakra before they ate the fruit, like the other guy said this is not to be confused with the tree of knowledge in the bible. Before the tree, they had physical energy and maybe even a bit of spiritual energy, but the fruit gave Kaguya the "Holy power" SO6P was the one who unveiled the knowledge and secrets about chakra but what came from the god tree's fruit was pure power and ability which allowed the molding of chakra-physical + spiritual energy. Physical energy comes from regular food, water, and anything to be consumed, and this is needed to sustain life. Spiritual energy would be the spirit-breath of life, soul, the mind-psyche. The reason that the alliance shinobi were attacked is maybe because of the will of the god tree which was to get back the chakra that was stolen from it, and that energy was THE KYUUBI CHAKRA which originated with the Juubi/god tree, and without it the alliance would have already died. But the tree killed them because that was the original will of the god tree when it became the Juubi- to kill and drain back the life power stolen from it, but also because the physical bodies of the ninja had been born with chakra already mixed inside of them, so the god tree took the raw physical energy and kyuubi chakra back into itself.
no they did not understand the concept of chakra, hence they did not understand how to create chakra.
 

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Thanks you very much to all who shared your opinions with me ;)

I will reply to some of you who disagree and try to give con arguments
 
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