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Child Of The Great Empire

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Hello! :hi:
I wanted to make this thread for quite some time. It's about Sasuke's fights. Since almost everyone uses them as arguments.

1. Sasuke vs Orochimaru
It is true that Oro was weak at the time, but it was still a win. He was smart and attacked his enemy while he was weakened, that's called thinking ahead and planning. And, do you really think anyone but him(and Naruto, possibly B) could break out of his dimension? A lot of people forget about it. So, it's a fair win.

2. Sasuke vs Deidara

I believe this is my favourite fight of Sasuke's, there was all, the tactics, the attacks; it was a pretty good fight. People say he had a huge plot shield at the end, and i won't deny it, but every character has a plot shield, doesn't it? Plot kept Naruto alive against Nagato. Sasuke didn't aim to kill him, so there was not killing intent on his side. He did make him suicide, right? That's something, after all, Deidara believed it was better to kill himself and Sasuke, than be defeated and eventually captured.

3. Sasuke vs Itachi

Even if Itachi did hold back, Sasuke managed to fight him on a whole different level than anyone before. He managed to hurt him and escape the Tsukuyomi, and even made him use Susanoo. If Itachi was serious, he would be long dead. But, he didn't die, so it's a unfair and a little stupid - win.

4. Sasuke and Team Taka vs Killer B

He was still not used to his MS, and was on the verge of death two times because of it. He understimated B and paid the price. If he was actually used to MS, the fight would be a whole new story. Team Taka barely won, but they did and Sasuke awakened a new power for Karin

5. Sasuke vs The Fodder samurai and the Kages
He owned the samurai, but had problems with the Raikage. If they continued, they would probably kill each other. Sasuke at least got his hand, and Ay only b!ch slapped him, but didn't harm him so much. I'd say it's a draw.

Then, Gaara, he blocked his amaterasu and he had to run away. Mizukage and Onoki were too much after all the fighting.
He would be dead without Tobi, but didn't he make the kages know about him? If he kept quoet, Sasuke would fight only Danzo.

Sasuke vs Danzo
There wasn't any plot there. He had help, but he was smart enough to take Karin with him.

Hope i wasn't confusing! It's kinda late here, so sorry if i was. :)
Thanks for reading!​
 

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Too bad he is still fodder in front of Bills Sama
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^Pretty much this
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Hello! :hi:
I wanted to make this thread for quite some time. It's about Sasuke's fights. Since almost everyone uses them as arguments.

1. Sasuke vs Orochimaru
It is true that Oro was weak at the time, but it was still a win. He was smart and attacked his enemy while he was weakened, that's called thinking ahead and planning. And, do you really think anyone but him(and Naruto, possibly B) could break out of his dimension? A lot of people forget about it. So, it's a fair win.

No, it was smart but it was still not a legit win.

2. Sasuke vs Deidara

I believe this is my favourite fight of Sasuke's, there was all, the tactics, the attacks; it was a pretty good fight. People say he had a huge plot shield at the end, and i won't deny it, but every character has a plot shield, doesn't it? Plot kept Naruto alive against Nagato. Sasuke didn't aim to kill him, so there was not killing intent on his side. He did make him suicide, right? That's something, after all, Deidara believed it was better to kill himself and Sasuke, than be defeated and eventually captured.

This was a legit win, everyone knows this...

3. Sasuke vs Itachi

Even if Itachi did hold back, Sasuke managed to fight him on a whole different level than anyone before. He managed to hurt him and escape the Tsukuyomi, and even made him use Susanoo. If Itachi was serious, he would be long dead. But, he didn't die, so it's a unfair and a little stupid - win.

It was still unfair, you can't defend it.

4. Sasuke and Team Taka vs Killer B

He was still not used to his MS, and was on the verge of death two times because of it. He understimated B and paid the price. If he was actually used to MS, the fight would be a whole new story. Team Taka barely won, but they did and Sasuke awakened a new power for Karin

They didn't win, Killer Bee held back because he wanted a vacation yet he still mollywhopped Taka. Sasuke's time with MS was irrelevant, Killer Bee was simply better. It was a 4 on 1 and he got healed and saved multiple time. You can't defend this.

5. Sasuke vs The Fodder samurai and the Kages
He owned the samurai, but had problems with the Raikage. If they continued, they would probably kill each other. Sasuke at least got his hand, and Ay only b!ch slapped him, but didn't harm him so much. I'd say it's a draw.

Then, Gaara, he blocked his amaterasu and he had to run away. Mizukage and Onoki were too much after all the fighting.
He would be dead without Tobi, but didn't he make the kages know about him? If he kept quoet, Sasuke would fight only Danzo.

Why are you trying to defend a raid where he had to fight multiple people? Are you trying to say raiding the Kage Summit was smart? If so, no.

Sasuke vs Danzo
There wasn't any plot there. He had help, but he was smart enough to take Karin with him.

He did OK here, but he would have been wrecked if Tobi hadn't warned him about the bomb regardless.

Hope i wasn't confusing! It's kinda late here, so sorry if i was. :)
Thanks for reading!​

You can't defend Sasuke's fights. Lol

Either way most of the fights he wins aren't even legit wins.
 

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Ill rage a bit but this is fair in my view

So basically what ur trying to say

1 Orochimaru was weak Crippled , was In bed , Could not Use hand Seals - But Sasuke still killed him so GG - Sasuke RLZ

2 This is the only fair fight That sasuke won and that was cuz Sasuke coincidentally was a Lightning user ( given i have no rats on this fight - fair play to Sasuke here )

3. It is a well known Fact that Itachi was holding back - U r trying to say that he put up a good Fight - Sasuke was not fodder , by that time he already managed to take out Deidara so if Itachi was holding back it would be Natural for Sasuke to put up a good fight

4. Well it was not Sasuke vs Bee, it was Taka vs Bee and yes Karin was the reason they thought they have won - Even an MS Sasuke would Stand no chance -

1st of all in that Battle Sasuke already had the ability to read all of bee's movements with his Sharingan even if his MS was not perfect

Susanoo would be Blitsed with a Bijuu dama and Amateratsu would be the only thing Sasuke can rely on - and as the battle showed - It did not work very well

in any case - Sasuke was not ready for a battle vs Bee - so its a bit of a Failure on his part


5 - The Kages -


Sasuke was outclassed by the Kages - yes He put up a fight and Yes he did not die - but it was all due to Tobi .

That battle was a build up - it can not rlly be taken Seriously - Sasuke got a new Power after it and that was for a sole Purpose - So that he doesn't need to Train for it or smt


Sasuke had help vs Danzo - and Credit where credit is due - this is only one of the battles where Sasuke showed intellect ( alongside with Deidara)










I dont want to Start a Naruto vs Sasuke discussion here - But i want to state this


As time went by Naruto became Smarter while Sasuke became more reckless

In this past arch Sasuke hasn't shown any sign of Cool Minded approach apart from the Last chapter where he actually managed to Motivate Naruto ( which is rare cuz Naruto usually Motivates ppl )
 

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There is no fair there is only victory and defeat, Sasuke beat everyone he fought in Shippuden aside from the Kages
 
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