Clarifying misunderstandings on speed and strength

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OK, so it seems that many people have weird and flawed understandings on when it comes to speed or strength. They assume that bending space is regarded as an actual speed feat asset. For example, they will put teleportation as a speed feat, or chakra enhanced punches and kicks as a physical strength feat. They get the wrong idea, and I'm tired of seeing people put "Minato as the fastest" or "Sakura and Tsunade as the strongest" in threads. Let me clarify for you. Speed =/= teleportation and physical strength =/= chakra enhanced boxing.

Speed is defined by different measurements:
speed (spd)
n.
1. Physics The rate or a measure of the rate of motion, especially:
> The distance traveled divided by the time of travel.
> The magnitude of a velocity.
> Swiftness of action or the act of moving rapidly. The state of being in rapid motion; rapidity.
> A transmission gear or set of gears in a motor vehicle.
> A numerical expression of the sensitivity of a photographic film, plate, or paper to light.
> The capacity of a lens to accumulate light at an appropriate aperture.
> The length of time required or permitted for a camera shutter to open and admit light.


"The Distance traveled divided by the time of travel it took." You see the word "traveled". You take the length a certain object traveled, such as a car or a bus and divide by the time it took it to get to that distance.
Speed = distance ÷ time
Speed is not teleportation because it is breaking of space and time which defeats the purpose of what I'm trying to explain.

Minato or Tobirama's FTG is TELEPORTATION. therefore it is not a speed feat. They can get faster from point A to point B (as long as those places are marked by Kunai's) but they are not doing it with their speed they are doing it by "bending space" or just teleporting. Understand? Ok, moving on.

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This is not:
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Nothing more than teleporting;
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There are different categories for strength;


strength (strnth)
n.
> The state, property, or quality of being strong.
> The power to resist attack; impregnability.
> The power to resist strain or stress; durability.
>The ability to maintain a moral or intellectual position firmly.

Pure muscular strength is physical strength.
Tsunade has great physical strength as she was able to hold Gamabunta's sword and toss it. She has a 5 in strength, but the majority of her strength comes from her "chakra enhanced strength". Going by feats, she is not the "physically strongest character" in this manga. Chakra enhanced strength gives you the ability to focus chakra into their hands or feat and release it at precisely the right time (precise chakra control). The more chakra that is focused the larger the impact.
We saw when Sakura released 3 years worth of chakra in her punch against the Juubi clones. Sakura only has a 3 in physical strength according to the Databook, but because of her chakra enhanced punches she is capable of causing massive impact with her attacks. It is pretty much like Gari's explosion style. He uses explosions on his palms and charges with a powerful force;
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Sakura is basically doing the same thing here;
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Gari makes any person he comes into contact with explode, similar to Sakura and Tsunades chakra enhanced punches who release and display large amounts of chakra in their attacks, which sometimes cause a person to explode from the force. These do not equate actual physical strength.

Tsunade is using chakra enhanced punch against Madara, which is not the same as actual strength;
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Naruto lifted a Rhino in SM using Senjutsu chakra;
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This is not actual physical strength because he is using senjutsu chakra to enhance his strength just like Tsunade and Sakura.
Ay is actually physically strong as he lifts weights and even lifted Sasuke easily;
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Not to mention he elbowed Jugo with ease enough to swing him across the room while making a huge dent in his armor;
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Speed is velocity times acceleration.
Strength is force added to the attended weight.

Kizaru from One Piece actually moves via the speed of light, therefore he is actually moving through speed. Goku is not physically moving with Instant transmission. Minato is no physically moving with FTG.

Whitebeard is physically strong. Tsunade is adding chakra enhanced strength to her attacks which is not actual strength.
 

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Ai had lightning Armour on............
 

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Gari was so cool.

WB is a planet buster.
 

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The raikage is also using his lightning chakra cloak to increase speed greatly and strength. So if you're not going to include Tsunades/Sakuras you shouldn't include his.

I agree with the speed vs teleportation though.
 

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Ay also uses chakra in speed and strenght so it's the same as Tsunade and Sakura, agree on Minato tho
 

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Sorry but S

speed + Strenght = More force in da blow
 

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nice thread!
 

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You're a hypocrite. You count the Raikage using his Lightning Armor to enhance his speed as speed, but won't count SM enhancing Naruto's strength as strength?

It doesn't matter if Naruto, Tsunade and Sakura are using something to enhance their strength, it's still strength that they're capable of possessing.
 

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Am I the only one who saw that raikage pic with "I SAID I WANTED DOIGHNUT WITH SPRINKLES!!"
 

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I been wanted to make a thread like this that defines Fight Speed and Movement speed but I have not had the will power of energy to do yet. Maybe I will one of these days. Its a common misconception too any people get confused.
 

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Isn't Ay using his lighting sheild or w.e to enhance his speed and stength?
 

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Breaking space & time is irrelevant, if a character can get from point A to point B before another then he is faster, & that is still considered speed.
 

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Tsunade is adding chakra enhanced strength to her attacks which is not actual strength.

I totally agree with you expect for that point. You are basically right but all skilled Ninja add chakra to their attacks, that's how it works in the narutoverse. Gai or Lee using the gates increase their physical strength by increasing/releasing their chakra.
 

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You're a hypocrite. You count the Raikage using his Lightning Armor to enhance his speed as speed, but won't count SM enhancing Naruto's strength as strength?

It doesn't matter if Naruto, Tsunade and Sakura are using something to enhance their strength, it's still strength that they're capable of possessing.

wow calm down there's no need to go that far to insult, the only hypocrite i see is you
 

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Tsunade is the physically strongest. Ay has no feat of lifting a summonings sword. That already puts her at strongest.
 
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Katsuya speed blitzes.
 
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