Clarification : Preta Path Can Absorb Mokuton.

[TrollingSage]

I have mix feelings with this topic, because Madara did absorb Shinju.

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He merged with it

 

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

I have mix feelings with this topic, because Madara did absorb Shinju.

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Wow , I even forgot about that also . I really dont know as well , you could either think Madara simply absorbed it like any chakra , or assume it required a seal and got dealt with off panel, I highly doubt he would use a seal for the God three off panel and comes back one page after. Anyway thanks for the reminder .

 

[Brother Numpsay]

He merged with it

Thats the same word to describe absorbing

 

[Uzumaki Ray]

I don't think so didn't Hashirama stop Madara with Mokuton even though he had the rinnegan and could use the power of all the paths in a single body?

 

[TrollingSage]

Thats the same word to describe absorbing

There's a difference between absorbing with preta path and merging with another entity. The later is similar to sealing a tailed beast.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

There's a difference between absorbing with preta path and merging with another entity. The later is similar to sealing a tailed beast.

Just a question: So you think he sealed the entity instead of absorbing it correct?

 

[tasuxeda]

We didn't see Madara's preta path fail to absorb Hashirama's wood dragon, what we see is Madara being bound by Hashirama's wood dragon which prevented Madara from using his preta path by absorbing his chakra, we don't know for sure that Madara tried to counter Hashirama's wood dragon with his preta path, Madara wasn't necessarily using his preta path before the wood dragon caught him.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Re: Clarification : Preta Path Can Absorb Mokuton .

This thread got shat on by Hiraishin Stage 3!!

no it didn't. and ur one of the others that are to blind to realize that, that wood dragon nullified preta by ABSORBING CHAKRA TOO. if that wood dragon didn't absorb chakra, madara could've absorbed it.

OP: i agree nice thread. but jutsus that absrob chakra such as kisame's 1000 sharks, wood dragons etc. nullifies preta, thus rendering it useless

 

[RedRobin]

No it cant.

Fire, water, earth, ice, wind, Lava, jinton and lightning are not living. Trees and wood from Mokuton are alive, plants are alive. Preta is not absorbing life.

 

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

No it cant.

Fire, water, earth, ice, wind, Lava, jinton and lightning are not living. Trees and wood from Mokuton are alive, plants are alive. Preta is not absorbing life.

I already answered it at the beginning of the thread . But to respond , Madara still absorbed the God tree so I'd like to hear your opinion.

 

[KidGamer65]

I have mix feelings with this topic, because Madara did absorb Shinju.

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He absorbed it into his body. He didn't use a chakra absorbing jutsu to do so, so how is this even relevant?

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

Re: Clarification : Preta Path Can Absorb Mokuton .

no it didn't. and ur one of the others that are to blind to realize that, that wood dragon nullified preta by ABSORBING CHAKRA TOO. if that wood dragon didn't absorb chakra, madara could've absorbed it.

If preta path could absorb mokuton the madara would have absorbed the dragons as they came near him, he couldnt and the dragons further shat on preta path

 

[Xāvî1]

Re: Clarification : Preta Path Can Absorb Solid Things (Fixed)

Clarification : Preta Path Can Absorb Solid Things, Fixed.

EDIT . My main point was about solid things even though Mokuton was the principal solid I had in mind. Mokuton has been proved wrong (though Madara still absorbed the Shinju) but This theory still stands for any solid thing , Like rock , diamond lava oil etc. Thanks for reading.


Intro

There is a huge misconception about Preta path and the assumption it can't absorb solid things , like Lava release or Hashirama's Mokuton . However , this is false .
I'm on my phone so I'll try to make it as short and simple as possible , please read it completely with an open mind .


I) Jutsus And Chakra .


First of all , Susano'o is the materialisation of the MS user Chakra . The Susano'o Humanoid is created and made of pure chakra and uses chakra to be activated and kept , everything relies on the user chakra .


My point is , ALL jutsus are the MATERIALISATION of the chakra the User spent to use the technique . Which simply means ,

A rasengan by Naruto (which is pure chakra ) is the result of the chakra spent by Naruto ; the jutsu created by the materialisation of Naruto's chakra which has came from Naruto body ; therefore it's based of chakra and can be absorbed by Preta Path.

Which simply means all jutsus are made and used with chakra . Chidori, Katon , Susano'o etc .


Now , Lets move forward the Preta path and the chakra sealing jutsu definition .

II) Preta Path

"The Preta Path (餓鬼道, Gakidō) grants the user the ability to absorb chakra in any form using the Blocking Technique Absorption Seal.
[...]
This ability was primarily defensive in nature as it is capable of absorbing ninjutsu-based techniques, thereby nullifying its effect. This technique can also take the form of a barrier around the user's entire body, allowing them to absorb attacks from all directions. In addition to this, the Preta Path is able to absorb chakra from an individual through physical contact."

"Fūjutsu Kyūin(封術吸印):
A highly advanced sealing technique granted by the Preta Path, that is capable of absorbing any chakra, regardless of any shape or nature transformation, and dispersing it within one's body by spinning the chakra within one's body in the opposite direction. As a result, this technique can absorb any ninjutsu based technique, rendering it ineffective on the user. Should the user get close enough to grab the opponent, the barrier can absorb chakra right out of an individual's body, effectively draining them."

Gakido and Fūjutsu Kyūin nullify the nature of the jutsu and absorb it , and as stated, regardless of ANY SHAPE OR NATURE TRANSFORMATION. They can both absorb any ninjutsu BASED technique .


This simply means something like Susano'o , which is an avatar but solid due to the Chakra condensation is totally absorbable . Lava release is a solid jutsu and the result of the chakra that has been spent and therefore as stated above, is absorbed due to the fact that it's chakra based , and the nature of the technique is totally nullified .

Now, let's take a look at an example of the uses of Preta path in a fight and Jinton and his definition.

III) JINTON

"Dust Release (塵遁, Jinton; Viz "Particle Style") is an advanced nature kekkei tōta, an advanced version of kekkei genkai, which is created through simultaneous use of the earth, wind, and fire natures. The techniques of this nature initially form as a small three-dimensional object (e.g. a cube, a cone, etc.) composed of chakra that forms between the user's hands. When the technique is released, the form expands and surrounds the target. This nature allows the user to manipulate molecules, giving them the ability to disintegrate anything on a molecular level within the boundaries of the three-dimensional form."

Jinton is a kekkei tōta and the combination of Three different nature transformation , which gives the user the power to uses MOLECULES in the jutsu which are solid things , not abstract things of NV like Rasengan which is litterally a chakra ball , we are talking about some damn Molecules here .

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Jinton has been absorbed and this is the ultimate proof Preta path can absorb and nullify things regardless of the nature of the jutsus .


IV) The usage In a fight & Conclusion .

It's a matter of opinion , we have seen the Preta path and Fūjutsu Kyūin in action , it seems like they both can take a couple seconds to absorb , which is kind of long in a real fight . I'm sure a jutsu from Mei's lava release can be absorbed without any problem , or a Tree/Root incoming to attack the user can be dealt neg diff too . Now the usage of this technique against for example, Deep Forest Emergence is obviously not the best counter to it but anyway the user is FULLY surrounded by the jutsu , means he'll absorb it regardless if the attack come from one spot or multiples spots at the same time. He'll still he open to any non-chakra based attacks during that time and that's not a good counter to a large scale jutsu but thats not the point .

I get that you can obviously think that there is a difference between a rasengan and a lava release as I also did but with the study I did I hope you can see my point . I'm open for any positive criticism and debate .

It is proven that yoton can be absorbed by madara. so i bet also gakido can do it!

 

[shelke]

I'm afraid Hashirama's Mokuton nullifies all Ninjutsu, including the ones that absorbs ninjutsu. It doesn't make sense, but then again, nothing in this manga does. So no, Mokuton cannot be absorbed by Madara.

 

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

I'm afraid Hashirama's Mokuton nullifies all Ninjutsu, including the ones that absorbs ninjutsu. It doesn't make sense, but then again, nothing in this manga does. So no, Mokuton cannot be absorbed by Madara.

I agree but Hashirama's Mokuton doesn't have anything that can nullify ninjutsu besides his binding absorbing dragon that obviously nullified another absorption jutsu .

 

[shelke]

I agree but Hashirama's Mokuton doesn't have anything that can nullify ninjutsu besides his binding absorbing dragon that obviously nullified another absorption jutsu .

I am only going by what the scan states. Apparently, it does nullify Ninjutsu. As I said, the manga doesn't have to make sense, but that's just the way it goes.

 

[BlacLord™]

Mokuton is created using chakra, but it's not composed of chakra itself.

In a similar way you can't absorb Kamui, you can't absorb Mokuton.

 

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

Mokuton is created using chakra, but it's not composed of chakra itself.

In a similar way you can't absorb Kamui, you can't absorb Mokuton.

S/T techniques are different though . The only reason I'm sceptical is because it creates living things , thus it can't get absorbed ; any other jutsu will , beside the obvious as genjutsu s/t techs etc .

 

[AlphaScythian]

Yes it can, preta absorbed oil already

 

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

Yes it can, preta absorbed oil already

It should work.