Clan power truth power scale

[unknownvillain1254]

I would like to start off my theory my going over 3 if the main clan Senju Uchina and Hyuga

The scale of power I'm using to determine a Clans full strength as a unit depends on three outcomes. the ability to fight other clans and themselves(main. 4) along with abilities they all share.
Senju

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the Senju have a very strong body which is known and have multiple skills as the clan name suggest. But the weakness of the clan as a whole let's go through that. The Senju one fatal flaw is time yes I said it time because the the clan true power does not kick in until later in life as their body grows and strengthen with maturity. Basically puberty until this time you can say they are using only 20 to 30% of their full strength that they will have access to in their lifetime [/QUOTE]


As basic into the years of 14/18 do they even have a strong fighting force to do anything with which means longer time periods

Consider them like Buffalo very strong powerful animals but in their early years versus ceptable easy to be killed but when they reach full adulthood a master of they're plane

Uchina

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The uchina clan are the glass cannon of the group. People from this clan inherent the Sharingan but it is a rare occurrence for most people in this clan to receive this ability basically 20 to 15% which is not bad but he is considered rare.

Their best ability as a clan is their ability for huge power jumps at a time with little to no work involved no shade being thrown. And no age restrictions being on the power they receive so for plain English and uchina get they're power at any age eight, nine, ten, hell two . Which leads to unbelievable lvl of growth in a short amount of time. In the highest level of adaptability for the ones who unlock the Sharingan

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The clan weakness one weakness is simple only a small percentage of the clan possess the ability which makes them great. which leads to huge gaps in skills and abilities for the ones who have it and the ones who don't simple

Hyuga

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The Hyuga clan who possessed the Byakugan / highest lvl control with the ability to dispell chakra from there chakra points and control over all tenku point and with the added ability of destroying chakra

Clan strength their strength is simply every member of the clan have a Byakugan from birth so no wait time for them with little training every member can awaken it and gain complete control over every chakra point allowing for high level chakra control. Second part even the children are as deadly as the adults. They all have one hit KO power from the moment Byakugan is awakened to the moment they die.

The weakness of this clan is set up not in there physical ability but there structured of their Clan basically they make half they're clan slave which really hurts the overall strength of the clan with only having 50% of your fighting force available and willing to fight

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Senju vs other clan in the 60> 40 chance

Senju vs uchina 58>42 chance in long draw out battles but in in the early battles 60>40 uch fav

Senju vs hyuga 60%>40% hyuga fav but if the battle draws on for years it switches 60>40 to senju fav

Uchina vs other clan 68%>32 uchina fav
Hyuga vs other clan 70>30 hyuga fav
Hyuga vs uchina 60%>40% reason being they don't have the numbers hyuga

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Not only is this baseless bias thinking need a bit of work, but the manga just outright pokes holes on all your theories here.
1. Where are you getting these silly numbers from
2. The weaknesses are purely subjective if not outright wrong
3. Disregarded any factual evidence to legitimize yourself. (Aka go get your manga facts)
4. Your reputation (you hate Uchihas so every scaling or weakness you gave is wrong due to bias.

You need someone else to properly scale this for you, you’re not the guy to do it.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Not only is this baseless bias thinking need a bit of work, but the manga just outright pokes holes on all your theories here.
1. Where are you getting these silly numbers from
2. The weaknesses are purely subjective if not outright wrong
3. Disregarded any factual evidence to legitimize yourself. (Aka go get your manga facts)
4. Your reputation (you hate Uchihas so every scaling or weakness you gave is wrong due to bias.

You need someone else to properly scale this for you, you’re not the guy to do it.

Show me where I am baseless or making up stuff . Please put hole and my theory if you can

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how I hit uchina fans with the truth

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Show me where I am baseless or making up stuff . Please put hole and my theory if you can

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how I hit uchina fans with the truth

How original. If you want to through gifs back and forth, the same thing can be done here.

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You didn’t hit any Uchiha fans, you’re just spout stupid nonesense just because your lashing out like an idiot. If you want to have an intellectual conversation then I’m all for it. But if your going to be doing this nonesense then I’ll just ignore you. It’s your call.

I already told you that the weakness and your numbering of percentage are off. So if you want to know why specifically then ask what part did you get wrong instead of being a condescending dickhead asking rhetorical questions. Read what you said the weaknesses are for all of them.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

How original if you want to through gifs back and fourth, the same thing can be done here.

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You didn’t hit any Uchiha fans, you’re just spout stupid nonesense just because your lashing out like an idiot. If you want to have an intellectual conversation then I’m all for it. But if your going to be doing this nonesense then I’ll just ignore you. It’s your call.

I already told you that the weakness and your numbering of percentage are off. So if you want to know why specifically then ask what part did you get wrong instead of being a condescending dickhead asking rhetorical questions. Read what you said the weaknesses are for all of them.

Lol so no manga scan and you running filler gif lol nice try

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Lol so no manga scan and you running filler gif lol nice try

:lol Ironic but I didn’t even come up with a counter yet. I’m asking you to be civilize before I do so. Do you want to know or not?

 

[Styles]

Hyuga can't do ish vs Senju nor Uchiha.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

You literally say that every hyuga awakens the byakugan and immediately able to use some op stuff, and then claim no shade after saying uchiha get easy powers with no work... it sounds one in the same doesnt it....

 

[Joon]

Not only is this baseless bias thinking need a bit of work, but the manga just outright pokes holes on all your theories here.
1. Where are you getting these silly numbers from
2. The weaknesses are purely subjective if not outright wrong
3. Disregarded any factual evidence to legitimize yourself. (Aka go get your manga facts)
4. Your reputation (you hate Uchihas so every scaling or weakness you gave is wrong due to bias.

You need someone else to properly scale this for you, you’re not the guy to do it.

I agree with you. He just pulled this number out of his ass.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

:lol Ironic but I didn’t even come up with a counter yet. I’m asking you to be civilize before I do so. Do you want to know or not?

Lol I made my claim all you did is insult

 

[unknownvillain1254]

You literally say that every hyuga awakens the byakugan and immediately able to use some op stuff, and then claim no shade after saying uchiha get easy powers with no work... it sounds one in the same doesnt it....

All hyuga are born with a byukagan are all uchina born with Sharingan No ,edge hyuga

Plus i can tell u didn't read thread

I agree with you. He just pulled this number out of his ass.

No actually I'm being nice because if I crunch the numbers without being generous the uchina loss more Sharingan users
But if you want to be salty I can use the real numbers

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[InfiniteMugen]

All hyuga are born with a byukagan are all uchina born with Sharingan No ,edge hyuga

Plus i can tell u didn't read thread




No actually I'm being nice because if I crunch the numbers without being generous the uchina loss more Sharingan users
But if you want to be salty I can use the real numbers

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Lol all I read was a biased thread. The hyugas weakness is their main/side branch system? Seriously? The uchihas weakness is that only a few achieve greatness? Last time I checked there’s more known uchiha then there where hyuga, hell we even see uchihas in squads throughout the years, where’s the hyugas? You talk as if EVERY hyuga is a badass, when despite having plenty to choose from, we know of 3

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Lol I made my claim all you did is insult

Uchiha- You said a small percentage of them awakens the sharingan (which was true during the earlier periods) but you said that the few that don't awaken the eyes have leaves a huge gab in ability in skill for those who do have it.
This is false, their skills and ability has predated back since before they awaken their sharingan eyes. The Uchiha style shuriken jutsu is one of the most skillful set of skills up there that is still being used by those who awakened the sharingan. An example would be Hebi Sasuke vs Deidara and Tobi/Obito vs War arc Kakashi 1st battle. Even kid madara deadlock kid hashirama in a cqc battle without the sharingan.
Uchiha flame formation, uchiha style shuriken jutsu, Fire style variant and Uchiha reflection are all skills and ability that are very high level powerful moves used by 3 tomoe, mangekyo users, and rinnegan users that don't require any ocular power to use. Just the fiery chakra flowing from their uchiha veins.

Senju-They don't kick in their full power (which is vitality) use before puberty. That's baseless and not true if we look at Naruto who was a senju lineage. He was able to use thousands of solid shadow clone at 12 years old when Kakashi's grown as was able to only use one solid clone. The multiple ones were all illusions. Naturally the older you get the stronger you get to a certain extent but this logic applies to everyone. And if anything, Senjus have shown much more capability as a kid in comparison to any other adult average adults. Otherwise why was Hashirama and Tobirama alive during the feudal era war?

Hyuga-They do not awaken the byukagan from birth and not every member has it. It was an ordeal for Hinata in part 1 to even use the damn thing. They do not posses one Ko power because kid naruto just outright laughed at that. Their weakness is not really just the divide in branch of the clan, it's their lack of resourcefulness in ninjutsu and genjutsu. Their ocular power just enhances their physical art but when it goes down the ladder they fall short. Senjus and Uchihas are good at taijutsu, not nearly as good as the hyuga but still well enough to compete with taijutsu geniuses such as Might Gai and Rock Lee themselves. In Genjutsu the Uchihas are unrivaled and in Ninjutsus they are very adept but more importantly those with a sharingan can copy equal speed and power of any skilled user of all 3 justus. The Senjus were hyped to be good at all these arts but what stands out the most besides of their physical energy is the skill of some of their members (Tobirama) being able to create high level ninjutsus or master the form of hermit art (Hashirama). Now where does Hyuga fall into being versatile in all 3 categories?

 

[SenseiSama]

If we compared clans by the average person then Uzumaki wins by a long shot, on the verge of extinction and their only remaining survivors are all Kage tier.


If we compare by potential they're all equal, Hagoromo's descendants masters of producing chakra and Hamura's descendants masters of destroying chakra.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Lol all I read was a biased thread. The hyugas weakness is their main/side branch system? Seriously? The uchihas weakness is that only a few achieve greatness? Last time I checked there’s more known uchiha then there where hyuga, hell we even see uchihas in squads throughout the years, where’s the hyugas? You talk as if EVERY hyuga is a badass, when despite having plenty to choose from, we know of 3

Well you prove my point they have a few standouts 2 out of the 4 and are main character and Indra recarnation . Plus you act like all of uchina are Madara.

Please at this proves one of my points please....?

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Well you prove my point they have a few standouts 2 out of the 4 and are main character and Indra recarnation . Plus you act like all of uchina are Madara.

Please at this proves one of my points please....?

That’s still more than the hyuga, so how’s it a weakness for them, that’s the point. Your bias. You proved it in this very response. Them being mains isn’t my problem, and the stupidest reason you could use

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Uchiha- You said a small percentage of them awakens the sharingan (which was true during the earlier periods) but you said that the few that don't awaken the eyes have leaves a huge gab in ability in skill for those who do have it.
This is false, their skills and ability has predated back since before they awaken their sharingan eyes. The Uchiha style shuriken jutsu is one of the most skillful set of skills up there that is still being used by those who awakened the sharingan. An example would be Hebi Sasuke vs Deidara and Tobi/Obito vs War arc Kakashi 1st battle. Even kid madara deadlock kid hashirama in a cqc battle without the sharingan.
Uchiha flame formation, uchiha style shuriken jutsu, Fire style variant and Uchiha reflection are all skills and ability that are very high level powerful moves used by 3 tomoe, mangekyo users, and rinnegan users that don't require any ocular power to use. Just the fiery chakra flowing from their uchiha veins.

Senju-They don't kick in their full power (which is vitality) use before puberty. That's baseless and not true if we look at Naruto who was a senju lineage. He was able to use thousands of solid shadow clone at 12 years old when Kakashi's grown as was able to only use one solid clone. The multiple ones were all illusions. Naturally the older you get the stronger you get to a certain extent but this logic applies to everyone. And if anything, Senjus have shown much more capability as a kid in comparison to any other adult average adults. Otherwise why was Hashirama and Tobirama alive during the feudal era war?

Hyuga-They do not awaken the byukagan from birth and not every member has it. It was an ordeal for Hinata in part 1 to even use the damn thing. They do not posses one Ko power because kid naruto just outright laughed at that. Their weakness is not really just the divide in branch of the clan, it's their lack of resourcefulness in ninjutsu and genjutsu. Their ocular power just enhances their physical art but when it goes down the ladder they fall short. Senjus and Uchihas are good at taijutsu, not nearly as good as the hyuga but still well enough to compete with taijutsu geniuses such as Might Gai and Rock Lee themselves. In Genjutsu the Uchihas are unrivaled and in Ninjutsus they are very adept but more importantly those with a sharingan can copy equal speed and power of any skilled user of all 3 justus. The Senjus were hyped to be good at all these arts but what stands out the most besides of their physical energy is the skill of some of their members (Tobirama) being able to create high level ninjutsus or master the form of hermit art (Hashirama). Now where does Hyuga fall into being versatile in all 3 categories?

Actually no it's not every Fire style technique they use is not special to them we're only they can do it and where they can only replicated. That is no different than the nanr Clan all using Shadow possession It is a taught skill

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Even the shuriken techniques that they use you must have a Sharingan to use it.

And that skill Gap and power is real with the Sharingan

And the exception proves the rule you did it yourself Obito was considered a lackluster weak uchinaafter he got his Sharingan he was able to match Kakashi who was literally a rank above him with no training at all

I really don't want to use Indra descendants because it's not fair you're not the normal Clan but even if you want to go there for this example even Madara said I can't beat hiashi and that is after he got his Sharingan.

Senju power had to take time to bloom before they reach their Peak which is something special to them like no other Clan
Naruto is a Uzumaki completely different biology unless you want to argue that point. Hiashi is reincarnated every generation with amazing powers not a good comparison and his brother was a born genius also not a good comparison.

Hyuga only weakness is Clan structure because out of the 3 Clans they do not suffer any physical strain to get there abilities or have to wait a long period of time to achieve their full abilities

 

[unknownvillain1254]

That’s still more than the hyuga, so how’s it a weakness for them, that’s the point. Your bias. You proved it in this very response. Them being mains isn’t my problem, and the stupidest reason you could use

You still arguing from a weak position my fact still hold true all four characters you name are basically main characters but what about the strength of the clan which is what I'm talking about not for individuals tell me the strength of the clan as a whole

 

[Belserion]

All Hyugas getting the Byakugan was debunked in the anime.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

All Hyugas getting the Byakugan was debunked in the anime.

The Hyūga Clan (日向一族, Hyūga Ichizoku) is one of the four noble clans of Konohagakure.[1] All members born into this clan possess the Byakugan, a kekkei genkai that gives them extended fields of vision and the ability to see through solid objects and even the chakra circulatory system, amongst other things. Members of this clan also possess the unique ability to expel chakra from any of the tenketsu in their body.