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Remember when sasuke used a fire attack against temari?

And then she blew the fire out with her wind element fan.

Just food for thought that elemental adding does require some form of balance.

I reckon narutos fuuton rasenshuriken can beat a fire technique if its powerful enough to over-ride the fire.

Think about it asumas blade went straight through, narutos didnt.

A gust of wind feeds a fire, a gale of 180mph wind would blow it out.

Again just food for thought
 

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Remember when sasuke used a fire attack against temari?

And then she blew the fire out with her wind element fan.

Just food for thought that elemental adding does require some form of balance.

I reckon narutos fuuton rasenshuriken can beat a fire technique if its powerful enough to over-ride the fire.

Think about it asumas blade went straight through, narutos didnt.

A gust of wind feeds a fire, a gale of 180mph wind would blow it out.

Again just food for thought
Nice man...
 

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A little obvious o_o plus Temari's wind wasn't made from chakra, it was regular wind which might make a huge difference in some way.
 

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you say its obvious but when i theorised this a month ago nobody believed me and banged on and on about yamato saying wind fuels a fire and taking it too literally

so i scourged the anime and manga and found temari blowing out sasukes fire,

If kishi has made wind ELEMENT different from wind itself then thats...retarded...Thats like saying the water kisame made against gai was water element, but not actually water.

que?

lol
 

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i think it was laid out pretty clear in manga that one element(eg. fire) can beat its next element in the cycle(eg. wind) in two cases. one, if the stronger element has higher level than weaker then its obvious who will win. the stronger will also win against weaker, if both are at the same level. but theoritically weaker element will win against the stronger if its(weaker's) level is higher.

key word : same level

 

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yeah ... this makes me think throw..cuz you dont use water to put out fires all the time.. sometimes when a fire gets to big you should like dirt on it or somther with some kind of mineral or agent or whatever... cuz if you throw water on a big fire it just evaporates the water and poduces oxygen for the fire to feed and gain strength... with that said one of the best things to do would be to smother a fire cuz fire doesnt really burn dirt..ya know... no fuel for it burn off of... so wouldnt you think earth would have a semi advanatage over fire...

but yeah back to the point... they have to be the same level or the one thats weak to the other has to be a the weaker attack..or at least reasonable close.. so like i d class wind attack could never hurt an a class fire attack but a d class fire attack would proablely not stand a chance against an a class wind attack...

i also wonder if some one could like control the wind in the sense of removing all wind or oxygen to strave the fire?
 

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true, Temari's was just wind, not an elemental technique ^^
temari was able to win bcos she had a higher level wind tech than sasuke's low level fire tech back then. how do i know? cos otherwise the outcome is not possible. element wise fire stronger than wind. but level of strength matters.
 

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i also wonder if some one could like control the wind in the sense of removing all wind or oxygen to strave the fire?
That's actually a very good question, is it possible to have total control over wind so as to completely destroy any traces of oxygen?
 

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wind ELEMENT different from wind itself
Yeah, I'd say wind without chakra is different from wind with chakra. I'm not saying chakra laced wind is stronger, just that the chakra on chakra action between a wind and fire element techniques may enable the fire to more easily overcome wind. Example theory: the chakra may act as a bridge/catalyst for the fire to envelop the wind. I say this because in my mind, Temari's technique wasn't any more than 20% stronger than Sasuke's fire techniques!

i theorised this a month ago nobody believed me
No way man, I've backed the idea of weaker ele. techniques beating stronger ele. techniques since even 333 came out.
 

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you say its obvious but when i theorised this a month ago nobody believed me and banged on and on about yamato saying wind fuels a fire and taking it too literally

so i scourged the anime and manga and found temari blowing out sasukes fire,


If kishi has made wind ELEMENT different from wind itself then thats...retarded...Thats like saying the water kisame made against gai was water element, but not actually water.

que?

lol
You make a good point there.
 

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Remember when sasuke used a fire attack against temari?

And then she blew the fire out with her wind element fan.

Just food for thought that elemental adding does require some form of balance.

I reckon narutos fuuton rasenshuriken can beat a fire technique if its powerful enough to over-ride the fire.

Think about it asumas blade went straight through, narutos didnt.

A gust of wind feeds a fire, a gale of 180mph wind would blow it out.

Again just food for thought
i agree dude :D
 

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If the fire burned transiently with a renewable source, than I suppose that wind could blow fire out. As mentioned it would have to be a weaker fire than the wind. If the fire has a renewable source, aka the users chakra with hand-signs, then there would be a transient gap in the jutsu, while the rest of it burned hotter than before. My summary answer is that this wind method won't work.

I suppose that perhaps a better idea would be the following. In judo/jutjitsu I believe that it is often the goal to take an opponents strength and redirect away from the user. It's possible that a wind user could actually redirect the flame towards the wind and away from the wind-user. Not sure if that's clear or correct. Just a thought.

Finally, fire can burn fire as seen by Itachi's Ameratsu. If Naruto could ever combine wind and fire (with toads maybe) then his fire technique could defeat Sasuke's aside from Ameratsu. The latter, I think Naruto is now fast enough to dodge.

1.) Redirection
2.) stronger fire technique
 
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