Chunnin Exam ( Fair or not)

[paratise]

irl a fight lasts less than a minute.

Naruto characters are incredibly durable.
If they got the same physical attiributes as us; they would die over stepping on battlefield; since they step on battlefield by jumping about 10 meters high from ground.

 

[AlexXx]

sm is a mode you can enter, switching on and off.
but being jinuriki cant be switched on and off. the beast is always there. if they could they would have to put the bijuu out, do the chuunin exam and after that put the bijuu back. but its not possible.

didnt watch filler, why naruto has to use sm against konohamaru?

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

My thing about it was I would be ok if Neji lost but he physically got hit once! Who gets solo'd by one freaking punch!!

One good uppercut can cause a person's throat to close up.

 

[Klaves]

Pills, legal or not, are enhancement supplements. They didn't "achieve" that power-up. If it's 1v1 fight and one of the competitors takes it they should at least provide or allow the opportunity for the other competitor to have the same pill so they are on an even playing field. If the pills have a greater positive effect or advantage for a certain clan, that's cool, but I don't understand how that can be fair in such a strict program. It's basically like steroids in sports.

The Curse Mark might have had adverse effects, but it's no different from Lee using the gates. Both have the risk to cause harm to the user in one form or another. The gates also have the potential to kill the user; pretty sure that is worse than Sasuke using his Curse Mark. When exactly were they going to cut Lee off if he was able to continue opening them?

Even though it's filler, it's stupid that Naruto couldn't use SM. That was achieved through effort, no different from learning how to open the gates or advancing dojutsu prowess (Sasuke, Hinata, Neji). Also, CM stems from Juugo(the use of natural chakra like senjutsu). Maybe they had a ban on the use of natural chakra? It would give the user more stamina, but that also makes no sense because Naruto could use Kurama chakra which we all know adds not only more stamina but regenerative properties. The Chuunin Exam rules are broken.

 

[Silent Phantom]

One good uppercut can cause a person's throat to close up.

He didn't get hit in the throat. My point was all the things these characters could handle and dish out he get KO'd by one base punch from Naruto after not being hit the entire match.

 

[peeps625]

Neji put everything he got into that rotation, and both were SMASHED into the ground. Im suprised neji even got up, but naruto always has the most stamina, and he planned an attack while he was being smashed into the ground. That fight was there to elevate naruto to a higher level so he could be on par with sausage. People underrate base naruto too much, mastering SM, summoning, and chakra control to walk on water are not easy. Base naruto is just hard to compare with OP kekkei genki.

 

[Draphsin]

Fair. Anything goes. Dont base stuff off filler.

I agree with this.

 

[Jcub]

Surprise attack with his known "worst" move at the time to win the fight = Skill. So Naruto > Neji. Argue all you want, but ultimately all he was able to do with Nine tails was counteract the pressure point thing. He couldn't go up, left, right, front or behind, so he went under.

take away kurama and you got an Uzumaki raised by the fourth... and you think Neji would have won still? Interesting.

 

[NarutoChangeSasuke]

Tards crying over neji .. Unfair That Naruto used Kurama's chakra yet he didn't even produce a tail? Neji has Byakugan and Sasuke has Sharingan? Thats totally fair to the others too ae?

 

[Wik]

Honestly, I don't believe it was fair to have Naruto and Gaara in the chunnin exam. I know Gaara was there strictly for a plan but still. The way Neji lost really frustrated me. Even though Neji wasn't in the right state of mind, it wasn't fair the way he lost.

Neji most likely trained harder than Naruto. All Naruto did was learn to walk on water, summoned a frog, and use kurama's chakra. In all honesty Neji had this in the bag, but then Naruto used kurama's chakra, came back and beat him.


Then on the other hand Gaara was about to go full on transformation on Sasuke if it wasn't for him using chidori, he actually might have died in that stadium.

But then later on in the series Naruto tries the chunnin exam again with Konohamaru and loses because he used SM. They ban senjutsu cause they say it would be unfair to the other competitors.

What????? and Naruto and Gaara's both using their tailed beast inside them isn't.

All I'm saying is that, the people of the leaf didn't care for tailed beast power which no gennin(without a tailed beast sealed inside them) had a chance against and just let them in the competition.

What's gets me even more raged is that they told Sasuke that if he used the curse mark that they would have to kick him out of the exam. Now I know that the curse mark tears away at yourself but they believed at the time that kurama was a mass of hatred.


So give me your thoughts on this and vote if you think it was fair or not.

Everything about Sm in chuunin is from an OVA and "never happend". don't bother yourself with it.

Now to explain this easily for you. This isn't a football game. It's a test. It's a test to see who is capable of leading a team of shinobi on missions. who is ready to take on the responsibilitys of a chuunin.

IF Naruto were to go on a mission as a chuunin that led to him facing off against another shinobi to let his teammates escape, would he be able to use Kurama? As long as this is true there is no reason not to grade him after how well he fights with what he's got going for him.

Also, many people here complain that Naruto got nothing going on for him without Kurama. Well he nailed Sennin mode inspite of Kurama, so. Also you should remember that Jiraya said that the reason why he was struggling so much as a child was because he had the ninetails. You can therefrom easily conclude that most likely, Naruto would have other skills if not for Kurama. Also there isn't really any reason for him to try and learn skills he won't need as long as he have Kurama.

 

[Johndoesknowall]

The Konohamaru thing was filler.
Also, the chunin exams is solely based on who has the abilities to become a chunin. You can use whatever means you need to get there. It doesn't matter how honest you are, how hard you worked, how much you want it. You could argue it's not fair Neji and Hinata had Byakugan. You could argue it's not fair Sasuke had Sharingan and the curse mark. You could argue it's not fair Lee used a forbidden technique. You could argue it's not fair Ino can infiltrate the mind and force you to give up. But in the end, everyone did what they could to show off their skills. And the thing about chunin exams is, no, Gaara and Naruto didn't really have an advantage overall. I mean, yeah, they were more powerful than the lot, but they both lacked in other areas.
P.S., do you remember who became chunin, despite not having any dojutsu, forbidden jutsu, or bijuu chakra? Shikamaru Nara :yeah:

I'll agree that everyone's individual power could be argued on if it was fair or not, But I've chosen jinchuriki. They are allowed to use their tailed beast powers and Sasuke wasn't allowed to use his curse mark. Not fair.

Filler was for comic relief. It really wasn't supposed to be taken seriously.

fillers wasn't just for comic relief sometimes it's for character development or a side story behind the main.

Complaints about the fairness of a ninja fight. The 3rd round rules clearly stated, contestants will fight until one dies, or the proctor deems one opponent is not properly defending themselves. I don't actuall remember Sasuke being forbidden from his curse seal. I'm pretty sure it was just sealed by Kakashi. They didn't want Orochimaru to be able to take Sasuke; the last Uchiha in Konoha.

Kakashi told him that if he used it he would be taken out of the exam. It was sealed by kakashi but could still be used it Sasuke wanted to use it.

 

[Johndoesknowall]

sm is a mode you can enter, switching on and off.
but being jinuriki cant be switched on and off. the beast is always there. if they could they would have to put the bijuu out, do the chuunin exam and after that put the bijuu back. but its not possible.

didnt watch filler, why naruto has to use sm against konohamaru?

What they should have done was ban jinchuriki's from using their tailed beast powers. Also to the Konohamaru thing, he didn't want to go easy on him.

Pills, legal or not, are enhancement supplements. They didn't "achieve" that power-up. If it's 1v1 fight and one of the competitors takes it they should at least provide or allow the opportunity for the other competitor to have the same pill so they are on an even playing field. If the pills have a greater positive effect or advantage for a certain clan, that's cool, but I don't understand how that can be fair in such a strict program. It's basically like steroids in sports.

The Curse Mark might have had adverse effects, but it's no different from Lee using the gates. Both have the risk to cause harm to the user in one form or another. The gates also have the potential to kill the user; pretty sure that is worse than Sasuke using his Curse Mark. When exactly were they going to cut Lee off if he was able to continue opening them?

Even though it's filler, it's stupid that Naruto couldn't use SM. That was achieved through effort, no different from learning how to open the gates or advancing dojutsu prowess (Sasuke, Hinata, Neji). Also, CM stems from Juugo(the use of natural chakra like senjutsu). Maybe they had a ban on the use of natural chakra? It would give the user more stamina, but that also makes no sense because Naruto could use Kurama chakra which we all know adds not only more stamina but regenerative properties. The Chuunin Exam rules are broken.

Thank you in a way.

Neji put everything he got into that rotation, and both were SMASHED into the ground. Im suprised neji even got up, but naruto always has the most stamina, and he planned an attack while he was being smashed into the ground. That fight was there to elevate naruto to a higher level so he could be on par with sausage. People underrate base naruto too much, mastering SM, summoning, and chakra control to walk on water are not easy. Base naruto is just hard to compare with OP kekkei genki.

Neji only started the jutsu. This is the whole pain thing over again. Naruto caught both of them at the beginning of their jutsu and it wasn't at it's full potential. Neji would have countered it if he had actually rotated but all he got to do was turn a little. Naruto would be a great ninja if he didn't rely on kurama so much but he does.

Surprise attack with his known "worst" move at the time to win the fight = Skill. So Naruto > Neji. Argue all you want, but ultimately all he was able to do with Nine tails was counteract the pressure point thing. He couldn't go up, left, right, front or behind, so he went under.

take away kurama and you got an Uzumaki raised by the fourth... and you think Neji would have won still? Interesting.

His worst known move was his best at the time, also Naruto beat Neji but that doesn't mean he's an overall superior ninja. He won in his way even though I didn't like it but the rules allowing jinchuriki to use their tailed beast should be changed if Sasuke can't use curse mark.

Tards crying over neji .. Unfair That Naruto used Kurama's chakra yet he didn't even produce a tail? Neji has Byakugan and Sasuke has Sharingan? Thats totally fair to the others too ae?

You're right both had kkg and had natural talent. They also trained to better them. What this thread is about is the Chunnin Exam and rules. The exam allowed Naruto and Garaa to use their tailed beast powers but restricted Sasuke to use curse mark.

Everything about Sm in chuunin is from an OVA and "never happend". don't bother yourself with it.

Now to explain this easily for you. This isn't a football game. It's a test. It's a test to see who is capable of leading a team of shinobi on missions. who is ready to take on the responsibilitys of a chuunin.

IF Naruto were to go on a mission as a chuunin that led to him facing off against another shinobi to let his teammates escape, would he be able to use Kurama? As long as this is true there is no reason not to grade him after how well he fights with what he's got going for him.

Also, many people here complain that Naruto got nothing going on for him without Kurama. Well he nailed Sennin mode inspite of Kurama, so. Also you should remember that Jiraya said that the reason why he was struggling so much as a child was because he had the ninetails. You can therefrom easily conclude that most likely, Naruto would have other skills if not for Kurama. Also there isn't really any reason for him to try and learn skills he won't need as long as he have Kurama.

The rules allowed Naruto to use Kurama but not Sasuke to use curse mark. Also I've already stated he would be a great ninja without kurama, also he would be great if didn't rely so much on kurama even when he had him.