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Damn China can't maintain their integrity while taking the SAT exam. The students there must be very pressured to suceed so they resort to cheating. The Asian countries just can't proctor the SAT exam well, always leaking shit.

 

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It's a bit generalizing to say "China" which seemingly suggests it is nationwide.

You also took it further by saying Asian countries which is generalization again, also it isn't like cheating doesn't occur in other countries as well(not that this excuses their actions). Developed or otherwise.

It is unfortunate that they resorted to such methods, it is good that proper measures are being taken.
 

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theyre supposed to be smart :/
 

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It's a bit generalizing to say "China" which seemingly suggests it is nationwide.

You also took it further by saying Asian countries which is generalization again, also it isn't like cheating doesn't occur in other countries as well(not that this excuses their actions). Developed or otherwise.

It is unfortunate that they resorted to such methods, it is good that proper measures are being taken.

I see that you misinterpreted the message I was trying to convey. I agree that cheating happens worldwide, but here I was trying to specifically talk about the SAT exam. Unless they get their shit together the SAT exam can never be successfully proctored in China nor Korea where it happened the last time.

I am also not talking about some local test pertaining to the country but it is a fact that they do have trouble controlling this cheating mess. Not trying to be racist, but they can find a way to correct this mess before people start to sue College Board.
 

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Cheating happens everywhere. There is no big deal about it.
 

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Damn China can't maintain their integrity while taking the SAT exam. The students there must be very pressured to suceed so they resort to cheating. The Asian countries just can't proctor the SAT exam well, always leaking shit.
Dat Genralisation
 

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The kids there must be super smart to have cheating methods for SAT exams. I wish someone in the states could've have leaked some answers.
 

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4,4 billion cheaters and leakers confirmed.
 

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"MICHAEL WANG, a young Californian, came second in his class of 1,002 students; his ACT score was 36, the maximum possible; he sang at Barack Obama’s inauguration; he got third place in a national piano contest; he was in the top 150 of a national maths competition; he was in several national debating-competition finals. But when it came to his university application he faced a serious disappointment for the first time in his glittering career. He was rejected by six of the seven Ivy League colleges to which he applied."

Had Michael Wang been a non 'model' minority I suspect he would have not only received all 7 Ivy League offers but also a fully-paid scholarship for his prospective studies.

This is a common misconception - that affirmative action is simply about helping 'non-privileged' minorities that has no other consequences.

The reality is that university places and jobs are scarce resources - which means that competition over them is a zero-sum game - and lowering the bar for some groups entails raising the bar for others.

East Asian Americans (and to a lesser extent, White Americans, and possibly South Asian Americans though I am not aware of any data on them) are the victims of affirmative action - without reverse discrimination they would be highly overrepresented at elite universities. I suspect the same will hold for international students.
 

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From the Economist article entitled "The model minority is losing patience" (I can't post links):

"MICHAEL WANG, a young Californian, came second in his class of 1,002 students; his ACT score was 36, the maximum possible; he sang at Barack Obama’s inauguration; he got third place in a national piano contest; he was in the top 150 of a national maths competition; he was in several national debating-competition finals. But when it came to his university application he faced a serious disappointment for the first time in his glittering career. He was rejected by six of the seven Ivy League colleges to which he applied."

Had Michael Wang been a non 'model' minority I suspect he would have not only received all 7 Ivy League offers but also a fully-paid scholarship for his prospective studies.

This is a common misconception - that affirmative action is simply about helping 'non-privileged' minorities that has no other consequences.

The reality is that university places are scarce resources - which means that competition over them is a zero-sum game - and lowering the bar for some groups entails raising the bar for others.

East Asian Americans (and to a lesser extent, White Americans, and possibly South Asian Americans though I am not aware of any data on them) are the victims of affirmative action - without reverse discrimination they would be highly overrepresented at elite universities. I suspect the same will hold for international students.
 

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The Chinese are interesting. Kinda off topic, but I've just read that during the construction of the Transsiberian Railway, the Chinese that were lucky enough to be hired, devolved the job to other Chinese workers. These sub-employees then did the whole job, while the originally hired Chinese -out of whose grace the rest could work- supervised the performance of their subordinates. They shared the salary fifty-fifty. (Of course the Russian foreman -chinovnyik- was scratching his head the next day, how come there were twice as many Chinese present than originally hired xd) I guess this is nothing unique in history, but interesting to note the wit of Chinese people. Another anecdote I find notable is how during the cold war, small islands near the Chinese mainland adapted to the circumstances and forged a living out of death. Islands like Kinmen belong to Taiwan, and the two opposing forces (the communist China and the republican Taiwan) had been launching bombs at each other for decades. Out of the bombshells, the inhabitants of these islands made knives, machetes and other tools - a whole industry was based on the steel and metal fired from the motherland.

All in all, I'm quite sure that an exam like SAT doesn't mean much in survival- at least not to the Chinese.
 

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Well damn. I'm not going to make a stereotype but how in the hell the SAT got leaked there?
 
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