[Chart] Kakashis power boost

[To Whatever]

1- Kakashi was Mid-Kage at least in this war arc...
2- Kakashi's boost took him above Sasuke and just behind Naruto...

Oh, I didn't know Kakashi was gifted with the moon symbol. Or has 9TR personally gifted to him by the SOSP's

Don't get too ahead of yourself. Kakashi has a psuedo RM and people are putting him above Sauce.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Healthy Itachi is a high kage

Hmm. Interesting.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Oh, I didn't know Kakashi was gifted with the moon symbol. Or has 9TR personally gifted to him by the SOSP's

Don't get too ahead of yourself. Kakashi has a psuedo RM and people are putting him above Sauce.

Kaguya doesn't have a moon on her arm yet she's stronger than sauce.

 

[blazekev90]

Kakashi was never Kage level

 

[Black Wolf]

Ok this chart shows:

Naruto BSM before, Ridoku Naruto after

Sasuke EMS before, Ridoku Sasuke after

Kakashi 1MS before, Kakashi 2MS after

Wut.

Kakashi with MS is high Jonin?

It was just my impression of Kakashis strength before. Having problem with Zabuza before MS.

Sasuke was unable to move from Zabuza's killer intent.

I can use outdated versions of characters too.

With MS he hasn't impressed me that much, he can't use kamui that much for it to be a winning feat. He is over high jounin though. Sorry guys, meant no disrespect.

He can use Kamui tons of times. Prior to Naruto's chakra recharge, he:

1. Raikiri'd Haku
2. Raikiri'd Zabuza
3. Raikiri'd Kisame's master
4. Raikiri'd V2 Jinchuuriki
5. Raiden & Kage Bunshin'd V2 Jinchuuriki
6. Raiden & Kage Bunshin'd Gedo Mazo
7. Kamui'd Gedo Mazo's head
8. Raikiri tossed a kunai at Obito
9. Kamui'd aforementioned kunai
10. Kamui'd Rasengan
11. Kamui'd BM Naruto's clone
12. Doton Wall defense against Kamui projectiles
13. Kamui'd himself
14. Raikiri'd Obito's shuriken

That's five Kamui, one of which was massive - and we know that Kamui's chakra expense correlates with size, so that Kamui on Gedo Mazo's head could easily be broken down into dozens of smaller, head / human sized Kamui's.

His next un-powered up chakra usage:

1. Kamui'd himself into the dimension to fight Obito
2. Raikiri'd Obito's head [but stopped short]
3. Raikiri prepped in hand against Obito
4. Genjutsu battle against Obito
5. Raikiri'd Obito's chest
6. Kamui'd himself out of dimension
7. Kamui'd Gedo Mazo's arm
8. Raikiri prepared against Black Zetsu
9. Kamui'd Naruto and Sakura into dimension
10. Kamui at Obito / Black Zetsu possessed body
11. Kamui'd Minato's Rasengan
12. Kamui'd Obito into dimension to save Naruto
13. Kamui'd Madara's truth seeking orb barrier

So yeah, this idea you have of Kakashi having low reserves is completely unfounded.

 

[To Whatever]

Kaguya doesn't have a moon on her arm yet she's stronger than sauce.

Is kakashi a goddess?

Did Kakashi give birth to the person who is supposed to be the god of shinobi?

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

Kakashi is now Blessed with the power of a God. His Black Raikiri sends whatever part he cuts you with to another Dimension. He can Kamui snipe AND throw Kamui portals like Shuriken.

Not to mention he is untouchable.

In terms of Raw power Naruto takes this, but Kakashi stomps him soooo hard in a fight with his current Power boost.

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

Healthy Itachi is a high kage

Mid Kage. That slowly gets lower with each fight.

 

[Black Wolf]

Nothing wrong with Itachi being high Kage level - in fact, I agree with that. What I don't agree with is MS Kakashi being "high Jonin" in comparison.

 

[Raijingan]

Wut.

Kakashi with MS is high Jonin?



Sasuke was unable to move from Zabuza's killer intent.

I can use outdated versions of characters too.



He can use Kamui tons of times. Prior to Naruto's chakra recharge, he:

1. Raikiri'd Haku
2. Raikiri'd Zabuza
3. Raikiri'd Kisame's master
4. Raikiri'd V2 Jinchuuriki
5. Raiden & Kage Bunshin'd V2 Jinchuuriki
6. Raiden & Kage Bunshin'd Gedo Mazo
7. Kamui'd Gedo Mazo's head
8. Raikiri tossed a kunai at Obito
9. Kamui'd aforementioned kunai
10. Kamui'd Rasengan
11. Kamui'd BM Naruto's clone
12. Doton Wall defense against Kamui projectiles
13. Kamui'd himself
14. Raikiri'd Obito's shuriken

That's five Kamui, one of which was massive - and we know that Kamui's chakra expense correlates with size, so that Kamui on Gedo Mazo's head could easily be broken down into dozens of smaller, head / human sized Kamui's.

His next un-powered up chakra usage:

1. Kamui'd himself into the dimension to fight Obito
2. Raikiri'd Obito's head [but stopped short]
3. Raikiri prepped in hand against Obito
4. Genjutsu battle against Obito
5. Raikiri'd Obito's chest
6. Kamui'd himself out of dimension
7. Kamui'd Gedo Mazo's arm
8. Raikiri prepared against Black Zetsu
9. Kamui'd Naruto and Sakura into dimension
10. Kamui at Obito / Black Zetsu possessed body
11. Kamui'd Minato's Rasengan
12. Kamui'd Obito into dimension to save Naruto
13. Kamui'd Madara's truth seeking orb barrier

So yeah, this idea you have of Kakashi having low reserves is completely unfounded.

I respect your list. Though the difference between kid sasuke and EMS Sasuke is miles more than part 1 Kakashi and war arc Kakashi. Still it's insane how huge the gap is between 1MS Kakashi and 2MS Kakashi, compared to Narutos and Sasukes power ups, which was my point all along

 

[Black Wolf]

I respect your list. Though the difference between kid sasuke and EMS Sasuke is miles more than part 1 Kakashi and war arc Kakashi.

It still doesn't change the fact that you are using a highly outdated version of a character, and what I did, while more extreme, is the exact same thing. Part I Kakashi had lower physical stats than current Kakashi, lower stamina, lacked Mangekyo Sharingan, and pretty much was inferior in everything. MS Kakashi has top tier physical stats, excellent stamina, and has a technique that nobody can avoid, barring the potential FTG user or BM Minato.

Part I Kakashi was high Jonin level / low Kage. War Kakashi is high Kage level. That is a massive difference.

 

[Raijingan]

It still doesn't change the fact that you are using a highly outdated version of a character, and what I did, while more extreme, is the exact same thing. Part I Kakashi had lower physical stats than current Kakashi, lower stamina, lacked Mangekyo Sharingan, and pretty much was inferior in everything. MS Kakashi has top tier physical stats, excellent stamina, and has a technique that nobody can avoid, barring the potential FTG user or BM Minato.

Part I Kakashi was high Jonin level / low Kage. War Kakashi is high Kage level. That is a massive difference.

Except that he is not

SM Naruto> War Kakashi

And SM Naruto is not high kage

 

[Black Wolf]

Completely your opinion; most people, myself including, see them on the same tier.

 

[xKiD SPiiD3rMaN]

If you didn't know kakashi was basically restricted to max 5 times for kamui and if you moved its basically useless so yea

How many moving targets does Kakashi have to Kamui before people admit that he can hit pretty much anyone that isn't a teleporter or GOD tier level in speed?

 

[Black Wolf]

He was hitting a moving target [while Kakashi himself was moving] from his very first attempt at using Kamui (Deidara). He missed the head, but still nailed an arm, and this was against an opponent whose specialty is flight. Since then, he's hit Pain's missile, Susano'o arrows, his own kunai, BM Naruto in a hail of Kamui propelled projectiles, Naruto's Rasengan . . . the list goes on.

It was always a weak argument, and has only gotten weaker as more chapters were released showcasing Kamui.

 

[xKiD SPiiD3rMaN]

He was hitting a moving target [while Kakashi himself was moving] from his very first attempt at using Kamui (Deidara). He missed the head, but still nailed an arm, and this was against an opponent whose specialty is flight. Since then, he's hit Pain's missile, Susano'o arrows, his own kunai, BM Naruto in a hail of Kamui propelled projectiles, Naruto's Rasengan . . . the list goes on.

It was always a weak argument, and has only gotten weaker as more chapters were released showcasing Kamui.

It's a crime that I can't rep you right now.

Literally last chapter, he kamui sniped Kaguya's ash bones and her dimensional rift while he was rapidly falling out of the sky. Yet, somehow he can only hit targets that are stationary or can only use kamui when he himself is stationary. smh

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Is kakashi a goddess?

Did Kakashi give birth to the person who is supposed to be the god of shinobi?

Current kakashi is a god.

Doesn't have to.

 

[obito uzumaki]

After getting their respective powerups it seemed that Kakashi (even if the yin yang power up should be far better than a mere sharingan) got the better of the power ups.

If we should believe the hype then Kakashi is almost on par with Naruto and Sasuke now, in chakra level and in feats. Since Kakashi was more or less fodder before this well needed boost I made a chart that displays their "power level" before and after their boosts.

What do you think?

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Agreed
Nice thread

 

[obito uzumaki]

Wut.

Kakashi with MS is high Jonin?



Sasuke was unable to move from Zabuza's killer intent.

I can use outdated versions of characters too.



He can use Kamui tons of times. Prior to Naruto's chakra recharge, he:

1. Raikiri'd Haku
2. Raikiri'd Zabuza
3. Raikiri'd Kisame's master
4. Raikiri'd V2 Jinchuuriki
5. Raiden & Kage Bunshin'd V2 Jinchuuriki
6. Raiden & Kage Bunshin'd Gedo Mazo
7. Kamui'd Gedo Mazo's head
8. Raikiri tossed a kunai at Obito
9. Kamui'd aforementioned kunai
10. Kamui'd Rasengan
11. Kamui'd BM Naruto's clone
12. Doton Wall defense against Kamui projectiles
13. Kamui'd himself
14. Raikiri'd Obito's shuriken

That's five Kamui, one of which was massive - and we know that Kamui's chakra expense correlates with size, so that Kamui on Gedo Mazo's head could easily be broken down into dozens of smaller, head / human sized Kamui's.

His next un-powered up chakra usage:

1. Kamui'd himself into the dimension to fight Obito
2. Raikiri'd Obito's head [but stopped short]
3. Raikiri prepped in hand against Obito
4. Genjutsu battle against Obito
5. Raikiri'd Obito's chest
6. Kamui'd himself out of dimension
7. Kamui'd Gedo Mazo's arm
8. Raikiri prepared against Black Zetsu
9. Kamui'd Naruto and Sakura into dimension
10. Kamui at Obito / Black Zetsu possessed body
11. Kamui'd Minato's Rasengan
12. Kamui'd Obito into dimension to save Naruto
13. Kamui'd Madara's truth seeking orb barrier

So yeah, this idea you have of Kakashi having low reserves is completely unfounded.

So much of kamui by kakashi some of them happened with the help of kyuubi n also u forget kakashi take rest after using kamui thats y he is not good as obito.
Example when he fought with obito ,obito suddenly came out n become juubi jin n controlled juubi n fight naruto sasuke minato n the tree is ready to bloom n also his juubi was extracted then only kakashi came out .kakashi one ms is mid kage level

 

[Migster257]

First.... Naruto nearly died due to the extraction of Kurama. Had Kurama been extracted with no side effects to Naruto, his sage mode is more than enough to be considered high kage level hence the fight with pain in which Kakashi only took out one of them before dying.

He used Kurama in that fight...