Characters nerfed left and right, gg kishi

[Nagi]

Ugh, the chapter couldn't have been any clearer. Just the Riker said above(I won't repeat it) and the fact the Kurama is acknowledging it is clear as day. This happened a lot with Vegeta and Gohan whenever there was peace, maybe you can understand that.

Slow or Butthurt? Pick one people.

Vegeta? Vegeta always training. He is the one the said a true warrior should always be ready. Even in time of peace. Gohan on the other hand, never was a fighter. He just wanted to protect his family and friends in the moment.

 

[Umari Senju]

Vegeta? Vegeta always training. He is the one the said a true warrior should always be ready. Even in time of peace. Gohan on the other hand, never was a fighter. He just wanted to protect his family and friends in the moment.

True enough. But as I stated above. It's not that Vegeta stopped training altogether like Gohan, it's that his heart just wasn't in it as much as before due to being with Bulma and having Trunks. He mentioned this to Goku when they had their 2nd fight.

 

[Nagi]

Go back to the Kai Ternament before bobbadi showed up. Vegeta said it himeslf. He grew rusty after settling down and having a kid with Bulma while Goku continued to train in the afterlife. That's why he let Bobbidy (or however you spell it) control him. for the power boost to beat Goku.

Wrong wrong wrong. He never grew rusty. He have gotten a lot stronger. But he just sort of lost the thrill of the hunt, the killing, the showing no mercy. He just miss the HIGH of killing. He believes that had held him back from catching up to Goku.

 

[Umari Senju]

Wrong wrong wrong. He never grew rusty. He have gotten a lot stronger. But he just sort lost the thrill of the hunt, the killing, the showing no mercy.

See may response to your earlier post above for this.

 

[Nagi]

See may response to your earlier post above for this.

Saw it. my bad. carry on. XD

 

[Xlad]

The way it's being done was cringe-worthy. Of course, I can understand being rusty considering the inflation. But its seems that there are contradicting scenes that were shown. I'm just at least waiting until next chapter to further explain what's going on.

 

[Young Vongola]

1. Sasuke was capable of piercing a Juubi's Jinchuriki with that sword. IDK why you're acting like it's a toothpick.

2. With enough wear and tear, even a tank loses its durability. The fact of the matter is, Naruto and Sasuke have had 20+ years of inactivity, while they had these powers for in between a day and maybe a year last we saw them use it. It'd make no sense if they were just as good now as they were bad then. Little less whine, little more think, you guys.

That's not the same sword Sasuke had before. Sasuke's old sword was a Kusanagi Blade which was said to be able to cut/pierce anything.

As for how they got beat, it doesn't really matter how rusty they are, to be honest. Sasuke shouldn't be so rusty that he can't activate a Susano'o ribcage, and it's not like Kurama gets weaker over time, so Naruto's durability with a cloak should be able to hold up against a sword.

It really just all boils down to how Kishimoto wants things to play out, the amount of sense certain things make can be discussed but ultimately none of it matters because we don't write this.

 

[Umari Senju]

That's not the same sword Sasuke had before. Sasuke's old sword was a Kusanagi Blade which was said to be able to cut/pierce anything.

As for how they got beat, it doesn't really matter how rusty they are, to be honest. Sasuke shouldn't be so rusty that he can't activate a Susano'o ribcage, and it's not like Kurama gets weaker over time, so Naruto's durability with a cloak should be able to hold up against a sword.

It really just all boils down to how Kishimoto wants things to play out, the amount of sense certain things make can be discussed but ultimately none of it matters because we don't write this.

good point. The original Kusanagi was destroyed in the lava dimension thanks to kaguya. so this may be a weaker one. I will give you that it is somewhat inconsistant. I mean Naruto is a sensor, should he not have sensed something was done to Sasuke's sword the moment Shin applied chakra to use the seal on it?

So I can agree to this.

 

[Punk Hazard]

That's not the same sword Sasuke had before. Sasuke's old sword was a Kusanagi Blade which was said to be able to cut/pierce anything.

As for how they got beat, it doesn't really matter how rusty they are, to be honest. Sasuke shouldn't be so rusty that he can't activate a Susano'o ribcage, and it's not like Kurama gets weaker over time, so Naruto's durability with a cloak should be able to hold up against a sword.

It really just all boils down to how Kishimoto wants things to play out, the amount of sense certain things make can be discussed but ultimately none of it matters because we don't write this.

And he couldn't have replaced it with a sword of equal quality or another Kusanagi Blade?

Sasuke is out of practice, in general combat and with using those abilities. While before his mind would have immediately gone to using it, it's not the case now because he's gone 20 years without situations that would call for that. The less you do something, the less you turn to it, especially after 20 years. As for the Naruto thing, once again, who says he couldn't have gotten a blade of similar quality or another Kusanagi Blade?

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Wow I actually agree with every word of that guy.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

You're all really stupid. They haven't had a need for those powers in 20+ years, they've been inactive. Of course they're gonna be rusty. Just stupid.

That logic doesn't apply here. Edo tensei brings back dead, yet that doesn't effect their performance.

Kaguya was brought back after those years, yet it wasn't eve slightly implied that she wasn't as powerful as she was.

Theres also inoshikacho who weren't effected during the war.

 

[Punk Hazard]

That logic doesn't apply here. Edo tensei brings back dead, yet that doesn't effect their performance.

Kaguya was brought back after those years, yet it wasn't eve slightly implied that she wasn't as powerful as she was.

Theres inoshikacho who weren't effected during the war.

That's because being dead then revived into the state you were in your prime isn't the same as actually living in a state of inactivity. The Edo Tensei were no different in state of mind that during their period of best activity, they didn't feel any rustyness setting on. Sasuke and Naruto have. Same for Kaguya, she was revived in the mental and physical state she was in in her prime.

What?

 

[Venomous Cobra]

It's not as bad as Bleach though. Kubo is flooding each chapter with bad comic relief.

Oh yes, bleach is also turning to shit.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

That's because being dead then revived into the state you were in your prime isn't the same as actually living in a state of inactivity. The Edo Tensei were no different in state of mind that during their period of best activity, they didn't feel any rustyness setting on. Sasuke and Naruto have. Same for Kaguya, she was revived in the mental and physical state she was in in her prime.

What?

Ino-shika-cho , the old men who were part of the formation were not effectted by the so called "rustyness" in the war, neither were they implied to be.


Shins father himself wasn't also rusty, I wonder why.....

 

[NahRooToe]

The only one who looked rusty to me was Nahrootoe, sasuke used his tech to switch places with the younger shin and then 1 handed fireball jutsu'd them both!! I'm sorry that was too sick, I'm sure when it's animated that scene will be much better.

Nahrootoe on the other hand basically sat there and got stabbed at the speed of light.. i think I may have missed something but it basically teleported inside of him via that shin dudes eye tech. I guess he has the power to control weapons and use them to miss vital spots, Because Nahrootoe easily could have took a lot of damage if he hit a vital spot

 

[NahRooToe]

The only one who looked rusty to me was Nahrootoe, sasuke used his tech to switch places with the younger shin and then 1 handed fireball jutsu'd them both!! I'm sorry that was too sick, I'm sure when it's animated that scene will be much better.

Nahrootoe on the other hand basically sat there and got stabbed at the speed of light.. i think I may have missed something but it basically teleported inside of him via that shin dudes eye tech. I guess he has the power to control weapons and use them to miss vital spots, Because Nahrootoe easily could have took a lot of damage if he hit a vital spot

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Tanks aren't organic and don't think and have children. It doesn't really apply.

However you let a tank sit for 20 years then try to fire from the cannon and it might explode in your face. Same concept applies. Without maintenance the tank will stop working properly after 20 years.....so I guess it does apply XD

you are pretty dumb. in no world should that sword have pierced narutos cloak. rusty or not even kcm could tank sword slashes.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

1. Sasuke was capable of piercing a Juubi's Jinchuriki with that sword. IDK why you're acting like it's a toothpick.

2. With enough wear and tear, even a tank loses its durability. The fact of the matter is, Naruto and Sasuke have had 20+ years of inactivity, while they had these powers for in between a day and maybe a year last we saw them use it. It'd make no sense if they were just as good now as they were bad then. Little less whine, little more think, you guys.

its not the same sword sasuke used on madara. sasuke coated it with lightning when he stabbed madara also. but thats besides the point because sasuke wasnt the one doing the stabbing. you people are pulling this 20+ years of inactivity out of your ASS naruto and sasuke is currently 33 if we go by your logic they stopped fighting when they were 13.