Chapter rants: We are mad at Kishi

[SkyGodHorus]

Re: Are Sasuke Fans Mad?

I am allowed to say its going down the drain, it is called freedom of speech and a lot of people are agreeing with me.

While others are allowed to say, "Shut the **** up and stop reading," especially when you do not buy the manga and instead read pirated scans of it while having the audacity to say "Kishimoto doesn't care." Get over yourself oh holier than thou. Your opinion is no more objective than anyone else's, whether people agree with it or not. And your account name doesn't exactly give you any more credence lols.

Don't tell me what to do kid, it is none of your business and I am sure as hell not going to listen to some Spiderman nerd.

Don't tell others what to do, fetus. Did you really expect to post a negative thread about the series and not get any negative feedback yourself? Everyone is entitled to their opinion and everyone possesses different tastes and interpretations. Then again, maybe if you hadn't negatively generalized Kishimoto with jack **** to back it up other than your fanboying, this may not have happened.

It's like he doesn't read his own work anymore or he's just forgotten most of the basics of Naruto and how Chakra and justsu work.

Or maybe it's just you.

I just hope he could have worked better on it and considered the fans and quality of work.

Quality is subjective. What you consider quality, I may consider garbage.

 

[evilmayo]

Re: Are Sasuke Fans Mad?

I was hoping that Rikudou would give the last power up, meh.

Free power ups for everyone!

Remember when people used to have to train for 5 episodes to master somthing ?? all this year has been is handouts... /sigh

 

[shelke]

Kakashi and Obito have a spiritual connection just like Hagoromo has with Indra & Ashura, may I remind others that aside from being the possessor of Kamui, being a Jūbi's Jin, etc. he was also knowledgeable of Hagoromo's Kinjūtsu (ch.607) substantially what Obito did is not beyond the in-universe logic, and do not make the argument that Hagoromo is the only one justified to be able to do it since the transcending of life and death have been displayed before (Minato's Chakra essence appearing to Naruto and repairing the Kyūbi's Seal, Edo Tensei, Hidan's Jutsu, Orochimaru's Seals, etc.)

This whole paragraph makes zero sense. None at all.

 

[Legendary Sannin]

Kakashi is friggin bad ass now. No wonder Kishi said that this year is going to be the year of Kakashi... or was it last year... or 2012. :hyper:

 

[SkyGodHorus]

This whole paragraph makes zero sense. None at all.

A pity you can't debunk it.

 

[shelke]

A pity you can't debunk it.

A pity you cannot comprehend simple statements.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

A pity you cannot comprehend simple statements.

Troll harder.

 

[shelke]

Troll harder.

Try harder, as I still can't seem to get myself to indulge you more. Isn't that what you want?

 

[lucario14]

How how does a dead guy use kamui? I thought dead people don't have bodies so all they have is a spirit and spiritual energy. How does a mass of chakra use kamui? So could the sage use a technique when he met naruto and sasuke?

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Try harder, as I still can't seem to get myself to indulge you more. Isn't that what you want?

Sounds like a personal problem.

How how does a dead guy use kamui? I thought dead people don't have bodies so all they have is a spirit and spiritual energy. How does a mass of chakra use kamui? So could the sage use a technique when he met naruto and sasuke?

I wasn't aware he used Kamui, but instead left his ashes and possessed Kakashi before passing on. It points to several possibilities such as a transmigration technique of Hagoromo that he learned or even how Indra and Ashura transmigrated over and over, though the former sounds more plausible.

 

[lucario14]

Sounds like a personal problem.



I wasn't aware he used Kamui, but instead left his ashes and possessed Kakashi before passing on. It points to several possibilities such as a transmigration technique of Hagoromo that he learned or even how Indra and Ashura transmigrated over and over, though the former sounds more plausible.

He didn't? So why doesn't everyone do that? When they die, their chakra goes into another to make them stronger? Why only obito or the sage...Since chakra connects the world of the living and dead.

 

[Sentinel]

everybody has the right to speak out their mind, if people don't like something about the manga they got the right to say it, that's why we have these kind of forums, to speak your oppinion. but refrain from attacking people for having a different oppinion then your own.

to me this PS upgrade of kakashi doesn't ruin the manga but perhaps it was a bit over the top.
to me this powerup is a continuation of obito's statement that his combination attacks with kakashi are the best he can do. and since obito had a change of hart he is trying to do what he can to undo his mistakes.
PS for kakashi was a bit over the top on the power but I would have expected double MS and acces to kamui from their combination. I guess the part that it's temporary is something of a compensation for the PS. I guess it wiill last only as long as obito can maintain his spiritual combination with kakashi.

what I'm also wondering is if this spiritual combination with obito will give kakashi acces to wood release.
- Kakashi is capable of doing water release and earth release and wood is a combination of those.
- and obito was capable of it because of his zetsu attachment.
kakashi doesn't have the zetsu attachment or hashirama's cells so it would be a bit tougher but theoryeticaly not impossible. hachi's cells have always been a quick acces to it, but possibly obito's experience with wood release could enable them to do it even without the cells, theoryeticaly. but personaly I hope kishi is NOT going to do this, that would be just as over the top as PS.

I'm also hoping for an explanation in the next chapter, Sasuke is deffinatly going to have questions for kakashi, naruto is just going to accept it and think it's cool. so a quick conversation between sasuke and kakashi is imminent

 

[Opiuchus05]

You're mad at Kishi
Damn Kishi must be depressed as he wipes his tears with hundred dollar bills
while you butt-masturbate to sasuke

 

[SkyGodHorus]

He didn't? So why doesn't everyone do that? When they die, their chakra goes into another to make them stronger? Why only obito or the sage...Since chakra connects the world of the living and dead.

Because not everyone has omnipotent powers like Hagoromo. He defeated and sealed a titan inside a moon he created and was the offspring of the progenitor of chakra that took power from the god tree. This same power has been used through creation of all things/onmyouton, which can alter reality and which those with Uchiha and senju chakra can use.

 

[max911]

It makes sense if you think about it logically. Kakashi got direct uchiha chakra from obito, which blessed him with the eyes and the susanoo, perfect one for the situation since the enemy is powerfull so its a full power susanoo.

I believe Itachi could use perfect susanoo, there just was no reason to use it. Remember, perfect susanoo is over kill, so which battle would he have used it in? Im just pissed i never saw it. Even Madara only reveald it when the Gokagr when full power, so he went full power. And also agains a powerfull shinobi which is hashirama.

Other wise we've only seen a perfect susanoo in intense battles. Madara barely used it. So Kakashi with some uchiha chakara, and MS with the PS is not really shocking. It makes sense.

 

[tristan de boiz]

Re: its kishi's manga not yours

Kakashi getting a power up isn't that bad and besides its kishi's manga he can do what ever he likes, he didnt force you to read it so if you dont like it drop the manga, after all the manga is about naruto not about sasuke,ems.and ps. And besides i was not happy about sasuke getting a rinnegan too albeit it came of good use so if you dont like the manga beat it, hit the road, catch a cab and drive straight to hell

 

[MrDuck]

Yup, Kishimoto doesn't care for any of you fools

Seriously guys, quit overreacting like spoiled little children who're not getting what they want.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

When the ruling principle and mechanic of a literary piece's universe revolves around mystical elements, one cannot definitively say that this character is limited to this, and that other character is limited to that, and this scenario is limited to this possibility, etc. look what happened when they said Tobi couldn't be Obito because he would've been too young and inexperienced to have fought Minato, and that Madara couldn't have rescued him because he would've been over 100 years old already in the events of Kakashi Gaiden,etc.

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

When the ruling principle and mechanic of a literary piece's universe revolves around mystical elements, one cannot definitively say that this character is limited to this, and that other character is limited to that, and this scenario is limited to this possibility, etc. look what happened when they said Tobi couldn't be Obito because he would've been too young and inexperienced to have fought Minato, and that Madara couldn't have rescued him because he would've been over 100 years old already in the events of Kakashi Gaiden,etc.

Interestingly enough, I predicted that a long time ago, the exact mechanics of it

just sayin.....thats why I announce it these days whenever im right, cuz before that, predictions like this that came true were simply unnoticed and buried U_U

 

[thekingofsharingan]

As a Kakashi fan I was glad to see him getting the mangekyo in both eyes but still doesn't make any sense how Obito actually did it. Im never a person to be blinded by liking something to see its flaws.