Chapter 667 [spoilers]

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Here is what I have learned during this chapter.

1. from one of the smartest people in the world. It is probably due to the second's intellect. This chapter also proves Tobirama does not hate Uchiha.

2. Kabuto can still be bad ass as a good character. He seems so mellow after coming out of Izanami. We also learned how Izanami works.

3. Gai is without a doubt the best Taijutsu user in the series. Leaps and bounds above Tsunade, Lee, Neji, Hiashi, or anybody bar Juubi Jins.

4. Minato admittedly sucks in Sage Mode. I am really starting to dislike his character by the chapter. He keeps talking about how he is a failure, and how he sucks with jutsu. Kishi needs to work some magic to save Minato.​
 

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Orochimaru got panel time, everything else is irrelevant.
 

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Orochimaru got panel time, everything else is irrelevant.

He will get a lot more panel time. He will be taking over Sasuke's body soon.​
 

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I concur with everything except for #1, of course.
 

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He will get a lot more panel time. He will be taking over Sasuke's body soon.​

What I like about him though is, even though he's evil or has negative intentions, he still respects one of his inspirations.
 

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Did you even read Minato's explanation to why he isn't good at senjutsu?

He said

- It takes too long to kneed the chakra, something we already knew. It takes long for Naruto as well unless he is in BM beforehand
- I can't maintain it for a long time, another thing we already knew since Naruto himself can't maintain it for more than 5minutes

So what is that really different between Naruto and Minato in their sage mode usage?
 

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5. Gates are a Senju Clan Technique.


Seems like Gai ain't the only one to use that technique ahahahahha. Damn bro, niqqas in the past must have been freaking STRONG.

Did you even read Minato's explanation to why he isn't good at senjutsu?

He said

- It takes too long to kneed the chakra, something we already knew. It takes long for Naruto as well unless he is in BM beforehand
- I can't maintain it for a long time, another thing we already knew since Naruto himself can't maintain it for more than 5minutes

So what is that really different between Naruto and Minato in their sage mode usage?
- Naruto maintained it for more time than Minato.. who lost it after 30 seconds.. that is the big difference.
 
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Did you even read Minato's explanation to why he isn't good at senjutsu?

He said

- It takes too long to kneed the chakra, something we already knew. It takes long for Naruto as well unless he is in BM beforehand
- I can't maintain it for a long time, another thing we already knew since Naruto himself can't maintain it for more than 5minutes

So what is that really different between Naruto and Minato in their sage mode usage?

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The dude said himself he was not good with SM. He saw Naruto's. He knows who is better with it.​

5. Gates are a Senju Clan Technique.


Seems like Gai ain't the only one to use that technique ahahahahha. Damn bro, niqqas in the past must have been freaking STRONG.

You know some say.....Tobirama....invented the gates.​
 

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The dude said himself he was not good with SM. He saw Naruto's. He knows who is better with it.​
In what is he better? It's the question i'm asking you
 

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You know some say.....Tobirama....invented the gates.​
Nah, since Madara knows about the whole red beast crap. It must have been before Tobirama. Just like the Rashoman gates were before Hashirama and them.

Plus it makes sense, to achieve full potential of the body, one must be able to unlock the things that limit it.

No other clan is better than in the knowledge of the body than the clan who is blessed with it.
 

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In what is he better? It's the question i'm asking you

I will email Kishi in hope for an answer. But what I am guessing is...

1. SM Naruto can use SM chakra for longer durations than Minato.
2. SM Naruto has frog kata whilst Minato doesn't.
3. SM Naruto's physical attributes are amplified more than Minato's.

But these are all guesses.​
 

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Orochimaru respects Tobirama most because Tobirama, despite having no OP kekkei genkai, was a genius and a perfect pragmatic.

Their way of thinking is the same. Tobirama put the village before all else, always doing what was best for his people while Orochimaru did all that was necessary to help himself.

Not to mention, Tobirama invented FTG, Edo Tensei and Shadow Clone.

Guy's a genius.
 

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I will email Kishi in hope for an answer. But what I am guessing is...

1. SM Naruto can use SM chakra for longer durations than Minato.
2. SM Naruto has frog kata whilst Minato doesn't.
3. SM Naruto's physical attributes are amplified more than Minato's.

But these are all guesses.​
Minato was talking about the amount of time to enter and maintain Sage Mode. He never included techniques he can use or not when he is in the mode, so the only plausible thing is the first one. Your 2 other points are baseless especially the last one since Sage Mode automatically boost physical stats. It doesn't depend on skills there
 

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Is there anything wrong with no being able to maintain it for longer period? Dude still has perfect control over SM.

I will email Kishi in hope for an answer. But what I am guessing is...

1. SM Naruto can use SM chakra for longer durations than Minato.
2. SM Naruto has frog kata whilst Minato doesn't.
3. SM Naruto's physical attributes are amplified more than Minato's.

But these are all guesses.​
Lmao,Minato is a perfect Sage just like Naruto,he can without a doubt use every ability of SM Naruto but only for a small duration.
 

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Is there anything wrong with no being able to maintain it for longer period? Dude still has perfect control over SM.
I don't see what is wrong in it myself, but oh well..
 

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1. Well oro did get some of his favorite forbidden jutsu from him(edo tensei) etc.

2.We already knew how izanami works. We knew it only worked on those who try to run from who they are, or what happened(in the case used against izanagi). I agree though. Kishi played kabutos return great, and his change great.

3. He is the best, but not in leaps and bounds. In terms of raw power he is leaps and bounds over anyone but sakura(maybe) and tsunade. He has speed like raikage, power like tsunade.

If he could enter gates without the side effect, then he would be leaps and bounds ahead of them.

And gentle fist was not known for its fighting power, as much as its ability to negate a ninjas chakra.(which would make the ninja pretty much useless(assumeing they were even strong enough to stand after that). So its like anti ninja style.

Gai is boss. Cant wait for 8th gate.

4. He doesnt suck at sage mode really. He was able to enter perfect sage mode. What it seems to show, is that he has so little experiance at it, that he cant use it well.

Like it or not, his personality has been one where he blames himself for things that happen.

I wouldve at least liked to see his long name jutsu, before he got his arms cut off. I do agree that kishi could do better with him.


Just my opinions though.
 
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