[Theory] Chapter 605 thoughts + theories (madara planned everything).

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A Kirigakure Shinobi, already called their village the ''BLOODY MIST''.
Obito cant be controlling yagura right now.
Yagura could have started these kill your fellow student exams himself, however...Madara isnt someone who couldnt get his hands on more than 1 spare eye.
The controller of yagura, had his eye in his right eye socket (the socket that is empty for madara).

We have already seen how obito, can see through kakashi his eye.
I believe madara can see through his missing right eye as well.
Someone else has that eye, the one who is at Yagura and Madara can see through it and orchestrate his plans this way.

The mist ninja were mad that kakashi killed rin, meaning kakashi was putting a stop to their plans by killing rin, who is the guinea pig (spy or something else).
They still wanted to get her body and not let the enemy (konoha) get their hands on her corpse.

I dont believe that Obito fell in Madara his cave by luck.
He was lured to that cave. It was all orchestrated.
Rin getting kidnapped to that cave, by iwagakure shinobi, was with the purpose to lure obito and kakashi there. Madara wanted to get his hands on obito.
Madara wanted obito.

Madara has the scene of this week's chapter, planned out as well.
With the purpose of obito getting ms and returning back to him.

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maybe your right! But if thats the case he should have waited for the birth of itachi and use him and not obito :p
 

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A Kirigakure Shinobi, already called their village the ''BLOODY MIST''.
Obito cant be controlling yagura right now.
Yagura could have started these kill your fellow student exams himself, however...Madara isnt someone who couldnt get his hands on more than 1 spare eye.
The controller of yagura, had his eye in his right eye socket (the socket that is empty for madara).

We have already seen how obito, can see through kakashi his eye.
I believe madara can see through his missing right eye as well.
Someone else has that eye, the one who is at Yagura and Madara can see through it and orchestrate his plans this way.


The mist ninja were mad that kakashi killed rin, meaning kakashi was putting a stop to their plans by killing rin, who is the guinea pig (spy or something else).
They still wanted to get her body and not let the enemy (konoha) get their hands on her corpse.

I dont believe that Obito fell in Madara his cave by luck.
He was lured to that cave. It was all orchestrated.
Rin getting kidnapped to that cave, by iwagakure shinobi, was with the purpose to lure obito and kakashi there. Madara wanted to get his hands on obito.
Madara wanted obito.

Madara has the scene of this week's chapter, planned out as well.
With the purpose of obito getting ms and returning back to him.


Thoughts?

bold parts = interesting :)

i disagree though on the part where you seem to believe that yagura started the bloody mist!:( ..if you remember him talking to naruto back in the chapter where he met all the jinchuuriki then you could see he was soo nice and even joked about + he was an kid, how the hell can a kid make a village so bad??!!

but i like your noticing on the fact that madara is missing his right eye and the guy controlling yagura seen ( well, partially seen ) has only his right sharingan showing , but couldnt it be that obito did control yagura afterwards ??

cause it was his left eye which was given to kakashi >>??

 

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bold parts = interesting :)

i disagree though on the part where you seem to believe that yagura started the bloody mist!:( ..if you remember him talking to naruto back in the chapter where he met all the jinchuuriki then you could see he was soo nice and even joked about + he was an kid, how the hell can a kid make a village so bad??!!

but i like your noticing on the fact that madara is missing his right eye and the guy controlling yagura seen ( well, partially seen ) has only his right sharingan showing , but couldnt it be that obito did control yagura afterwards ??

cause it was his left eye which was given to kakashi >>??


I said ''could'' have started though.
Not that he started it for sure.
People can change, so there is always the possibility.
Yagura was not a kid btw. He is an adult (he said so himself), he just looks like a kid. He might have some growth disorder.

Obito cant be the one controlling yagura right now and if yagura didnt start it himself (bloody mist exams and such), than someone else(not obito), must be controlling yagura right now.
Obito can ofcourse take the job from that person afterwards(meaning more than one person controlled yagura), but obito cant be the one doing that right now.
 

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lol obito gave a word slaughter a whole new meaning xd
 

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Did u forget that Madara said he gave away both his eyes and the eye has now is a replacement?

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Did u forget that Madara said he gave away both his eyes and the eye has now is a replacement?

As you can read from my post, i mention how he has a spare eye and how i believe he could have gotten his hands on at least 2 spare eyes.
Than i explain why i believe he has only 1 eye implanted and not 2.
I am fully aware his original eyes are in nagato.
 

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Maybe Obito blackmailed Yagura by sucking in his Wife? Into the other world, and he had to go along with it, also couldn't kill Obito, due to never getting wife back, ergo, blackmail..
The 4th showed up moments after, minato would've of planned ahead. Just a few seconds late.
Madara got lucky !
 

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Maybe Obito blackmailed Yagura by sucking in his Wife? Into the other world, and he had to go along with it, also couldn't kill Obito, due to never getting wife back, ergo, blackmail.

That is a form of control as well, but Ao said, the fourth mizukage yagura, was controlled by genjutsu.
So i dont think blackmail was the case.
 

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As you can read from my post, i mention how he has a spare eye and how i believe he could have gotten his hands on at least 2 spare eyes.
Than i explain why i believe he has only 1 eye implanted and not 2.
I am fully aware his original eyes are in nagato.

actually u said that Madara can see out of his right eye and its with someone who is at yagura's location, his eyes are in nagato and nagato is not with yagura.


if you think he can see out of his spare eyes then u are just simple minded. Madara can't put someone else's eyeball in and then pop it back out, give it to someone else and then see what they see magically.
 
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Zetsu said madara choose you, let's say obito never got crushed outside his hideout, would madara still have wanted him or was madara watching him overtime, setting up and coordinating a whole scene with the blood mist; or is just the case madara was waiting for a suitable protege and obito was the one.
 

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Zetsu said madara choose you, let's say obito never got crushed outside his hideout, would madara still have wanted him or was madara watching him overtime, setting up and coordinating a whole scene with the blood mist; or is just the case madara was waiting for a suitable protege and obito was the one.

Madara chose obito now that he was in a situation he could chose him, bein crushed
 
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I guess the question is then who is the long haired dude controlling Yagura? Maybe the person controlling Yagura ordered the mist ninja to corner Kakashi and Rin near the cave.
 
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