Change of senerio's

[jimbobbity]

Canonically it can control only 1 person, so assuming isn't doing your case much good. I can assume alot of things about alot of techniques just because the specifics weren't shown, doesn't meant they actually apply. Lastly, Danzo was contemplating on who to use it (Sasuke or Obito) so that's that.

Hashi's cells don't matter at all, there's no way they're lowering 10 years to an acceptable cooldown that can be used in battle, so it hardly matters. Example: Izanagi. Danzo could use it for only a few seconds, while Obito could for 5 minutes. Hardly that much of a difference.



It's pretty obvious he was snapped out when he was startled for a second and later said ''If you played fairly i might have picked you''. He wouldn't realize he was being controlled if he was in KA, that's the fundamental rule.



Which wasn't going to be enough to hold off BM Naruto, Bee, Kakashi and Gai.

Obito could just swap the KA eye for his normal Sharingan. Duh... :| (Didnt read this post btw, just responded).

 

[Ambivalence]

Obito could just swap the KA eye for his normal Sharingan. Duh... :|

You do realize the only ones who could instantly swap eyes like nothing are people with extraordinary regenerative powers, right? Only SM and JJ Madara have displayed that feat, so Obito would fail miserably if he simply inserted a new eye in his socket while being a non-JJ.

 

[Angelic.]

You do realize the only ones who could instantly swap eyes like nothing are people with extraordinary regenerative powers, right? Only SM and JJ Madara have displayed that feat, so Obito would fail miserably if he simply inserted a new eye in his socket while being a non-JJ.

you do realize senju dna bruh

 

[VongolaX]

Canonically it can control only 1 person, so assuming isn't doing your case much good. I can assume alot of things about alot of techniques just because the specifics weren't shown, doesn't meant they actually apply. Lastly, Danzo was contemplating on who to use it (Sasuke or Obito) so that's that.

Still, how do you give it a limit when other genjustus don't?

Hashi's cells don't matter at all, there's no way they're lowering 10 years to an acceptable cooldown that can be used in battle, so it hardly matters. Example: Izanagi. Danzo could use it for only a few seconds, while Obito could for 5 minutes. Hardly that much of a difference.

Itachi said senju cells increases the re-charge and Danzo used it twice.

It's pretty obvious he was snapped out when he was startled for a second and later said ''If you played fairly i might have picked you''. He wouldn't realize he was being controlled if he was in KA, that's the fundamental rule.

Well in all fairness, it could of been Danzo ending the genjustu once he got caught.

So we can't assume in this one

Which wasn't going to be enough to hold off BM Naruto, Bee, Kakashi and Gai.

We don't know that, that's why this thread was made Lol.

Itachi had faith in this genjustu to work against EMS Sasuke

 

[Ambivalence]

you do realize senju dna bruh

I'll wait for the scan where he's swapped and used an eye instantly. Madara sucked out Hashirama's Sage Mode directly from him, which is much better and more potent than some implanted Senju cells that Rinnegan Obito had...

Still, how do you give it a limit when other genjustus don't?

I give it the standard limit for Sharingan genjutsu. Sasuke is literally the only one who's caught multiple beings with a single genjutsu. There's nothing in the manga that suggests KA can affect multiple people.

Itachi said senju cells increases the re-charge and Danzo used it twice.

You're not saying anything new, already talked about this. Them cells have to really be something to make 10 years to like 10 minutes. A little far fetched, don't you agree?

I agree with your last point.

 

[VongolaX]

I'll wait for the scan where he's swapped and used an eye instantly. Madara sucked out Hashirama's Sage Mode directly from him, which is much better and more potent than some implanted Senju cells that Rinnegan Obito had...



I give it the standard limit for Sharingan genjutsu. Sasuke is literally the only one who's caught multiple beings with a single genjutsu. There's nothing in the manga that suggests KA can affect multiple people.



You're not saying anything new, already talked about this. Them cells have to really be something to make 10 years to like 10 minutes. A little far fetched, don't you agree?

I agree with your last point.

Itachi also used a multi range genjustu according to Ao and shikimaru's dad.

IT users as well.

Danzo used KA twice, so how is there a ten year span?