[VS] Chakra reserves: Hashirama vs Naruto

[Ken Kaneki]

1)Hashirama :- Prime
2)Naruto :- At the end of war ( but consider reserves w/o Kurama's chakra) What do u think ?

 

[Zee U]

If by end of the war you mean Naruto after Hagoromo gave him half of his chakra he wins. Otherwise Hashirama has more chakra.

 

[Ken Kaneki]

If by end of the war you mean Naruto after Hagoromo gave him half of his chakra he wins. Otherwise Hashirama has more chakra.

Well Edo Madara > BSM Naruto (Naruto + Kyubbi + Senjutsu chakra)
Yet Edo Hasirama restrains Edo Madara
So clearly Edo Has hi> BSM Naruto chakra wise
Also keep in mind Prime Hashi > Edo Has hi

Now I know RM increased Naruto 's chakra but without Kurama's chakara would Hashi 's chakra be greater ?

 

[Zee U]

Well Edo Madara > BSM Naruto (Naruto + Kyubbi + Senjutsu chakra)
Yet Edo Hasirama restrains Edo Madara
So clearly Edo Has hi> BSM Naruto chakra wise
Also keep in mind Prime Hashi > Edo Has hi

Now I know RM increased Naruto 's chakra but without Kurama's chakara would Hashi 's chakra be greater ?

Where did you got Madara > Naruto from? Madara surpassed Naruto chakra wise only when he became a JJ.

Also Hagoromo's chakra is permanent, Base Naruto has it included in his own reserves.

 

[Apêx1]

Hashirama said that when Naruto handed out the Kyuubi cloaks to the entire shinobi alliance, their chakra's were comparable. So Naruto alone obviously stands 0 chance.

 

[Ken Kaneki]

Yes he said it was comparable. ( Naruto had 9 tails chakra then + Senjutsu).

 

[Lariatoo]

Hashirama's chakra >> War Arc's Naruto chakra
Hashirama's chakra = War Arc Naruto + Yang Kurama

The thing is that we don't know just how much chakra Hagoromo by himself had, since He gave half to Naruto...

 

[Ken Kaneki]

Hashirama's chakra >> War Arc's Naruto chakra
Hashirama's chakra = War Arc Naruto + Yang Kurama

The thing is that we don't know just how much chakra Hagoromo by himself had, since He gave half to Naruto...

Exactly. And thus the confusion. Also is it 'half' or he gave equal powers to Sasuke and Naruto ?

 

[Lariatoo]

Exactly. And thus the confusion. Also is it 'half' or he gave equal powers to Sasuke and Naruto ?

I honestly don't know...
I pretty much skipped the manga at that point...
Someone have the manga scan were it was explained?

 

[Dage The Evil]

Hashirama Negs,

Because Naruto without Kurama is only more than above average of the average shinobi, Just because he's an Uzumaki doesn't mean he can have more chakra than a Senju, and yes I do realize Naruto also got the "body" of the Sage but I still think it's Hashirama

 

[MadaraReturns]

Hashirama said that when Naruto handed out the Kyuubi cloaks to the entire shinobi alliance, their chakra's were comparable. So Naruto alone obviously stands 0 chance.

this was what i wanted to say. hashirama of course

 

[Bronze]

Without Kurama, Hashirama inherited more of Ashura's Chakra than Naruto. Just because he was older and had closer genetics to the original than Naruto did. With Kurama, Hashirama's reserves are only comparable to the Chakra shared to the Shinobi Alliance, which are portions of 50% Kurama. The thread is referring to Naruto after the war, which presumingly now has Full Kurama as Hagoromo told Yang Kurama to get back with Naruto. And if you refer to Rikudou Naruto, the answer is obvious. Naruto was given Ashura's original Chakra, and Hashirama is only centuries reincarnation.

 

[Ken Kaneki]

Without Kurama, Hashirama inherited more of Ashura's Chakra than Naruto. Just because he was older and had closer genetics to the original than Naruto did. With Kurama, Hashirama's reserves are only comparable to the Chakra shared to the Shinobi Alliance, which are portions of 50% Kurama. The thread is referring to Naruto after the war, which presumingly now has Full Kurama as Hagoromo told Yang Kurama to get back with Naruto. And if you refer to Rikudou Naruto, the answer is obvious. Naruto was given Ashura's original Chakra, and Hashirama is only centuries reincarnation.

But the thing is RM Naruto minus Kurama is being compared to Hashirama Prime in terms of chakra reserves. I understand RM Naruto + Kurama > Hashi. Byt without Kurama ?

Also your first line about inheritence from Ashura ia wrong
Ashura and Indra inheritence does not exactly works via genes.

 

[juzumaki]

But the thing is RM Naruto minus Kurama is being compared to Hashirama Prime in terms of chakra reserves. I understand RM Naruto + Kurama > Hashi. Byt without Kurama ?

Also your first line about inheritence from Ashura ia wrong
Ashura and Indra inheritence does not exactly works via genes.

but correct me if im wrong the chakra hashiram compared to himself wasnt even naruto at 100%considering hes been fighting in war long before that

 

[VongolaX]

Every bijuu>>>Hashirama in chakra reserves or whatever.

They're chakra monsters for a reason.

Hashirama's chakra goes on par with EMS Madara, for his chakra was only to last for a day.

BSM naruto was not only fighting, but giving out chakra to every ninja that entered the battlefield for longer than a day.

RSM naruto is literally a sm with all the bijuu chakra combine.

So Hashirama can only compete with bm naruto

 

[TRE MERCER]

Hashirama chakra reserves are near the Kyuubi's chakra reserves you restrict from Naruto we have a clear winner.

Plus Hagoromo chakra doesn't give you more chakra it only makes your chakra stronger. ​

 

[Ken Kaneki]

but correct me if im wrong the chakra hashiram compared to himself wasnt even naruto at 100%considering hes been fighting in war long before that

That may be true. But then we would have no way to estimate.

 

[Ken Kaneki]

Every bijuu>>>Hashirama in chakra reserves or whatever.

They're chakra monsters for a reason.

Hashirama's chakra goes on par with EMS Madara, for his chakra was only to last for a day.

BSM naruto was not only fighting, but giving out chakra to every ninja that entered the battlefield for longer than a day.

RSM naruto is literally a sm with all the bijuu chakra combine.

So Hashirama can only compete with bm naruto

Not true man. Hashi captured Kyubbi within the battle while fighting Madara. His chakra >> EMS Madara. + Hashi captured and distributed Bijjus for peace. Shows his chakra reserves. Even Kisame's chakra was compared to Tailed Beast's chakras.

 

[Ken Kaneki]

Hashirama chakra reserves are near the Kyuubi's chakra reserves you restrict from Naruto we have a clear winner.

Plus Hagoromo chakra doesn't give you more chakra it only makes your chakra stronger. ​

How do you make Chakra stronger ?

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Without any bijuu/powerup, Hashirama by far.

His chakra was compared to that of Kurama.