Chakra Itself Can Contain A Consiousness

[Booker]

There have been examples of this throughout the Manga.

- Orochimaru's curse seals
- Kage Bunshin
- Tailed Beasts
- Kushina/Minato appearing to Naruto

Among others.

Now, the direction I'm taking this is that Minato could in fact have a consious Kyuubi inside of him. While I believe he sealed half the actual soul of Kurama, the chakra theory works just as well, since chakra has been shown multiple times to develop some sort of consiousness. While in RDS, a technique where Minato and Kurama had to battle each other forever, Minato clearly won the battle and took some of Kurama's chakra, hence KCM.

Minato is a Jinchuriki. Before just replying "lol nope he's not", read the thread and consider an actual counter.

 

[Normal fanboy]

I agree 100% ^.^

 

[Touken]

This leads me to question, is chakra and life force the same thing?

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

Chakra in a sense is the JUUBI. :I I know it sounds crazy but chakra itself IS the essence of the JUUBI, people will say I am bullshitting and stuff but when we see CHAKRA, we're seeing the JUUBI as what it is,

Susanoo have BONES and bodily organs when its JUST CHAKRA, just like the bijuus and the JUUBI, :I

This mostly lies to the originator is in everybody case

 

[accept pain]

This leads me to question, is chakra and life force the same thing?

nope...i think...nagato has unlimited chakra we have seen in manga even alive and had great life force similar to rikudo sennin

 

[AlphaScythian]

So where are you headed with this? Another kurama on battlefield?
No, just no. Too wrong.

 

[Imperfect]

Chakra is chakra, simple life force that ninja use to activate jutsu.

1. Orochimaru's Curse Seal is a Jutsu, with part of him inside of it.
2. Kage Bunshin is a jutsu, that takes the users chakra to multiply themselves.
3. Tailed Beasts are a Manifestation of chakra, given form and a personality.
4. Minato's chakra was, again, a Jutsu. The 8-Pentagram Seal, with his chakra laced into the seal, so that when it reached the 8th Tail, he would appear to stop the 9th Tail from appearing. Kushina was Sealed with the same Justu, but with a different purpose, to help Naruto acquire the 9 Tails' chakra when the seal was broken.

As you can see, all of your examples are Jutsu, and not simply raw chakra, like the chakra Minato took from the 9 Tails.

I hope you agree and if you don't then thanks for at least reading.

 

[dirklyn]

agreed mate

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

This leads me to question, is chakra and life force the same thing?

I believe so, a person without chakra DIES if not right away, eventually when ALL ENERGIES leaves. they appear differently but to the core are one and the same

 

[Booker]

Chakra is chakra, simple life force that ninja use to activate jutsu.

1. Orochimaru's Curse Seal is a Jutsu, with part of him inside of it.
2. Kage Bunshin is a jutsu, that takes the users chakra to multiply themselves.
3. Tailed Beasts are a Manifestation of chakra, given form and a personality.
4. Minato's chakra was, again, a Jutsu. The 8-Pentagram Seal, with his chakra laced into the seal, so that when it reached the 8th Tail, he would appear to stop the 9th Tail from appearing. Kushina was Sealed with the same Justu, but with a different purpose, to help Naruto acquire the 9 Tails' chakra when the seal was broken.

As you can see, all of your examples are Jutsu, and not simply raw chakra, like the chakra Minato took from the 9 Tails.

I hope you agree and if you don't then thanks for at least reading.

Well Kurama obviously still had form when sealed:

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Also do note how he is already inside of Minato.

 

[Imperfect]

Well Kurama obviously still had form when sealed:

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Also do note how he is already inside of Minato.

I think that was to show the fans that since he sealed half of it's chakra, he would be sealed with the chakra. And to foreshadow his KCM Mode.

I might not agree that he has his own Kyuubi, I can agree that he does look epic and it might be part of some plan Kishi has for the future of the final battle.

 

[Booker]

I believe so, a person without chakra DIES if not right away, eventually when ALL ENERGIES leaves. they appear differently but to the core are one and the same

Chakra is directly connected to life force, yes.

 

[Draphsin]

Yin is the essence that governs spiritual energy, & the ability to create form from nothingness. The uchiha demonstrate the use of yin release through genjutsu, susanoo or various other ocular jutsus (spiritual energy, used to create form from nothingness).

Yang release is the essence that governs physical energy & the ability to breathe life into form. Hashi & naruto have both shown the ability to utilize yang release through the growing of trees (breathing life into form).

Now with that being said, what do you notice about both of those examples? You see that the ones from yin release dont possess any form of "life" or "vitality, susanoo is merely a manifestation of chakra it cant act of its own free will, it doesnt have the life that makes it a living being.

& finally we get to kurama, we know that rikudou created the bijuu using yin-yang release, therefore each bijuu has half physical energy (governing life & vitality/the consciousness) & half Spiritual energy (governing form from nothingness/manifestation of chakra). & so I can finally say that when minato sealed kurama's yin half he was only sealing his chakra, not his consciousness/yang half. (Also note, since kurama is completely made up of chakra he can still use bijuudamas & other jutsus).

Btw your logic suggests that jin & kin bros have kurama's consciousness as well, but that was simply not the case.

 

[Booker]

So where are you headed with this? Another kurama on battlefield?
No, just no. Too wrong.

^ Lel ^

Was just going through some bookmarked threads and found this.