CES or Gentle Fist?

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

both would one-shot.

L.

CES > Gentle Fist in the one-shotting department.

You'd be insane to believe that Tsunade actually aimed for a death blow.

Touche.

It was when he was doing 'research' on her, so it must have been close.

How many hits does Gentle Fist even have to land before their opponents are disable from fighting?

 

[Made in Heaven]

Orochimaru got punched by Tsunade in the face, he survived so much for one shot.

Good point.

 

[Made in Heaven]

L.
How many hits does Gentle Fist even have land before their opponents are disable from fighting?

One...

 

[Hakke]

L.

CES > Gentle Fist in the one-shotting department.

the CES would have no effect on someone who is strong and durable enough to tank it while the Gentle Fist is untankable according to Kakashi

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and it even bypassed Naruto's Chakra Cloak

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so...

 

[Belserion]

Good point.

No it's not a good point. You guys are really unable to comprehent the manga.

Tsunade used all her chakra up to heal her wounds and summon Katsuyu Without The seal.

Her Transformation wore off the Minute the battle ended.

Also Orochimaru her confirming it's a one hit.
Go ahead deny manga facts.

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[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

One...

I expected more from you, Lady Byakugan. :lol

 

[Made in Heaven]

No it's not a good point. You guys are really unable to comprehent the manga.

Tsunade used all her chakra up to heal her wounds and summon Katsuyu Without The seal.

Her Transformation wore off the Minute the battle ended.

Also Orochimaru her confirming it's a one hit.
Go ahead deny manga facts.

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It was still CES.

 

[Mori Jin]

No it's not a good point. You guys are really unable to comprehent the manga.

Tsunade used all her chakra up to heal her wounds and summon Katsuyu Without The seal.

Her Transformation wore off the Minute the battle ended.

Also Orochimaru her confirming it's a one hit.
Go ahead deny manga facts.

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Which she hit him with and he still lived.

 

[Belserion]

It was still CES.

Which she hit him with and he still lived.

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Goodbye

Not discussing with delusional hypocrites.

 

[Mori Jin]

She was literally out of chakra. She released her yin seal to heal her wounds and summoned Katsuyu without the seal.

One minute after the battle her Transformation jutsu didn't work anymore.

Her seal came back as soon as the fight ended, she was fine during the fight and was never said to have been out of chakra. She punched orochimaru in the Jaw after releasing her Jutsu and he was perfectly fine after, no one got one shot in that fight.

 

[Mori Jin]

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Goodbye

Not discussing with delusional hypocrites.

Delusional hypocrite? Very funny child, orochimaru survived, go and take your fanboy delusional mind elsewhere.

 

[Mori Jin]

Hiashi one shot that hidden cloud ninja that kidnapped Hinata with gentle fist.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

the CES would have no effect on someone who is strong and durable enough to tank it while the Gentle Fist is untankable according to Kakashi

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and it even bypassed Naruto's Chakra Cloak

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so...

True, but your second last sentence was unnecessary. It doesn't add anything to your point, plus we have no idea how potent CES would be supplemented by the same amount of chakra Hinata was.

However, even with their weaknesses in some aspects and stengths in some aspects, CES still has the one-shotting capability while Gentle Fist doesn't.

I think that's what you are missing here. Plus given that CES and Gentle Fist both faced up against the same opponent, CES would just be more detrimental.

If Gentle Fist got in 3 hits, to be fair CES would also get 3 hits, and that'd mean CES wins because it's simply just more lethal.

 

[Melanin]

She was literally out of chakra. She released her yin seal to heal her wounds and summoned Katsuyu without the seal.

One minute after the battle her Transformation jutsu didn't work anymore.

Orochimaru's body also had an monstrous or Frankenstein anomaly that makes him very durable. Plus as you said, Tsunade wasn't at her strongest but the funny thing is that gentle fist probably wouldn't have phased Orochimaru any more then Tsunades punch.

 

[Belserion]

Her seal came back as soon as the fight ended, she was fine during the fight and was never said to have been out of chakra. She punched orochimaru in the Jaw after releasing her Jutsu and he was perfectly fine after, no one got one shot in that fight.

The seal coming back doesn't tell about the quantity of chakra inside that seal. Her Transformation jutsu wore off just like back then when she used all her chakra to save Konoha from Pain's allmighty push. She still kept her youthful appearance while facing Pain but when she got back the jutsu wore off.

Also try to get your point as much across as you like. The manga disagree with your own Interpretation. So good day sir

 

[Mori Jin]

The seal coming back doesn't tell about the quantity of chakra inside that seal. Her Transformation jutsu wore off just like back then when she used all her chakra to save Konoha from Pain's allmighty push. She still kept her youthful appearance while facing Pain but when she got back the jutsu wore off.

Also try to get your point as much across as you like. The manga disagree with your own Interpretation. So good day sir

We've seen what happens to her if she uses up all her stored chakra during the pain attack, she went into a coma when that happened. None of that during the sannin fight, infact as soon as orochimaru left her seal came back. You said she was low on chakra, where was this stated again?

Why wasn't she in a coma like in the pain attack if she was "out of chakra" like you claim?

Manga disagrees with your fanfic assumptions, nice try though better luck next time.

 

[Belserion]

Orochimaru's body also had an monstrous or Frankenstein anomaly that makes him very durable. Plus as you said, Tsunade wasn't at her strongest but the funny this is that gentle fist probably wouldn't have phased Orochimaru any more then Tsunades punch.

Well he was in possession of a different body which had certain abilities Orochimaru wanted. The person must have been very durable I guess.

People also forget that Tsunade was fighting the very first time after +20 years. She was already exhausted after fighting Kabuto and she summoned Katsuyu with her own reserves, as she used the seal completely to heal her wounds.

Orochimaru said himself that one hit can kill you. Kabuto even agrees.

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They just deny manga facts. And ironically the two Hyuuga Fans who rampaged on that Hamura Chakra feat because Necromancer was denying certain "Facts" from a movie deny manga facts.

Hypocrisy at its finest

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

We've seen what happens to her if she uses up all her stored chakra during the pain attack, she went into a coma when that happened. None of that during the sannin fight, infact as soon as orochimaru left her seal came back. You said she was low on chakra, where was this stated again?

Why wasn't she in a coma like in the pain attack if she was "out of chakra" like you claim?

Manga disagrees with your fanfic assumptions, nice try though better luck next time.

Dude. She tried to heal up the whole village that's why.

PS: please stop this fallacy. CES is specialized in wrecking opponents with just one shit whereas the nature of Gentle Fist necessarily requires multiple hits. The nature of both techs are totally different, so it shouldn't be that mortifying that it falls short in wrecking in one blow.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

CES gives fracture while Jyuuken results to internal hemorrhage. Both are deadly and one hit worthy with different utility.
Also, remember that CES is not exclusive to medical ninjas as anyone who can do precise chakra control basically exhibits CES. After all, it is all about gathering the maximum chakra to be released and be generalized as superhuman strength. Jyuuken, on the other hand only requires the slightest of touch to expel chakra to vitals.

WHy this thread again? There has been an existing Hinata vs Sakura thread around anyway...
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Threads like this start with two warring parties/techniques > with or without ulterior intents > a few would post characters with feats> another few would retort with feats from another character > Thread becomes a vs thread between characters > ulterior intent revealed lol

 

[Made in Heaven]

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Goodbye

Not discussing with delusional hypocrites.

I never disagreed with what you said, but it was still CES, just not powered by Yin Seal, which has nothing to do with CES.

We're talking about Jyuken VS CES here, aren't we? Not CES + Yin Seal.