[Discussion] Censorship. Is it right?

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There's the argument that censorship "protects" the innocent and it keeps from offending certain people who don't like certain things. Okay, I get that to a degree. However, it doesn't really protect a child, for example. I know from experience that censoring something just makes a child more curious, and if their parents fail to be adults for once and tell their child about it, then they go off and find out for themselves (and usually that's a lot worse).

So does censorship, of anything, truly benefit society? Or does it cause even more chaos?
 

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Cause more chaos. Parent are responsible for the child and grown teenagers are responsible for themselves to some extent. If parents were around and taking care of their kids than maybe they want have to worry about censorship. Some of my good shows on TV are censored. I want violence and adult language (etc.).
 
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Censor some things. Dont censor any kind of music or arts though, i can't stand when people beep out curse words in songs, its the same as censoring the penis on David.
 

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Cause more chaos. Parent are responsible for the child and grown teenagers are responsible for themselves to some extent. If parents were around and taking care of their kids than maybe they want have to worry about censorship. Some of my good shows on TV are censored. I want violence and adult language (etc.).

Agreed. I'm not that into violence though, just for the record. Not that I think it should be censored, rather I wonder why there's so much of it on TV and movies. xd

Censor some things. Dont censor any kind of music or arts though, i can't stand when people beep out curse words in songs, its the same as censoring the penis on David.

That's actually what sparked this thread, I was listening to Next Episode, and Vevo had blocked out even the 'N' word. :rolleyes:

What would you say should be censored?
 

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It's right as long as its limits are fixed so as to serve the public and country’s interest and not for the censor’s personal use.

Also, it depends for the type of censorship - like military censorship is an absolute yes-case! As for your question on whether it "protects" the innocent, well, I think it does help. Unfortunately, the bounds of censorship are unstable and thus, its remedies are not so hard-hitting.

Censorship is not 100% effective but it does help to keep the innocent children – innocent to some extent.
 

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It's right as long as its limits are fixed so as to serve the public and country’s interest and not for the censor’s personal use.

Also, it depends for the type of censorship - like military censorship is an absolute yes-case! As for your question on whether it "protects" the innocent, well, I think it does help. Unfortunately, the bounds of censorship are unstable and thus, its remedies are not so hard-hitting.

Censorship is not 100% effective but it does help to keep the innocent children – innocent to some extent.

I agree, the military should keep its secrets. Where would we be if every top-secret development were known to the world?

I guess, in the case of children, this might be a case by case issue. I know that certain things, like sexuality for instance, were things that I wanted nothing more than to know more about. Because my parents didn't have the marbles to tell me all about it, I went searching on my own. To this day, there are things that I want to forget which I found on the internet etc. So to me, censoring certain things leads to something worse. If I had found out about some things immediately, I wouldn't have been so curious, and that would have minimized the damage I believe. ;)
 

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on porn, hell no. anything else, i acan care less, lol
 

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To be honest, Censorship doesn't do any good. We all grow up to learn this things, such as ***, cussing, wars etc..
It's pretty stupid how they want to 'protect us' from basically nothing. Even if they censor all the porn out there, a kid is bound to figure it out. Instead of doing that, they should teach people that some stuff are wrong and shouldn't be done.
Even if some of the things they censor are completely unnecessary.
 

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we should display the world as it is not how we want it
and we should do a better job teaching children how to correctly respond to this real world and teach them to recognise bullsh*t when they see it
 

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I guess, in the case of children, this might be a case by case issue. I know that certain things, like sexuality for instance, were things that I wanted nothing more than to know more about. Because my parents didn't have the marbles to tell me all about it, I went searching on my own. To this day, there are things that I want to forget which I found on the internet etc. So to me, censoring certain things leads to something worse. If I had found out about some things immediately, I wouldn't have been so curious, and that would have minimized the damage I believe. ;)

In some way, yes. In some way, no.

You see, many child may get pushed by curiosity caused by the prevention that is censorship. Still, feature a world where porn will be accessible on general TV at peak hours. How different will have been your personality if you started watching porn at a tender age where you were to see cartoons? How anarchical will it be if you started developing a corrupted personality due to over-access to certain things?

As I said, censorship is not efficient but fact is that without it, life and personality will have been completely. You may have 'found out things' out of curiosity and thus questions the point of censorship? But still, how different your personality will have been if you were exposed too regularly with such things? Perhaps, you would have been a complete different person with a different mindset? In a way, censorship did have a positive consequence, don't y'a think?

The act of watching something after being stung of curiosity is better than the act of being exposed excessively and perhaps unwantedly at something. Atleast, that's my take. If you're curious enough to overcome censorship barriers, it means that you do have some mini-sense of maturity and thus won't be traumatized perhaps after what you've seen. However without censorship, people may get completely traumatized.
 

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They say 'prevention is better than cure' . . . . its better to restrict children from watching adult content and educating them about it rather than letting them watch downgraded versions . . . though they are children they still have their human carnal capacity and thus very much capable of connecting the dots more or less accurately.
 

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Anything that needs to be Censored, Kids shouldn't be watching/listening to in the first place.
Parents need to stop being lazy and take an intrest in what their kids are actually watching/listening to.

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we should display the world as it is not how we want it
and we should do a better job teaching children how to correctly respond to this real world and teach them to recognise bullsh*t when they see it

Exactly, the average child is shielded from reality till someone outside their family shows it to them, and thus they find out the wrong way. Even in those cases where a child has learned something at an early age, because their parents aren't doing their job, they use it in an ignorant way. I remember a kid in my neighborhood that used harsh language as young as eight. He wasn't corrected, or at least not properly (my dad would have tanned my backside), so he just kept on with it...and I don't think he understood anything he was saying. :rolleyes:

If you're curious enough to overcome censorship barriers, it means that you do have some mini-sense of maturity and thus won't be traumatized perhaps after what you've seen. However without censorship, people may get completely traumatized.

This is actually the best argument for censorship I've ever seen. I don't really have much of a reply for this...although I do have to say that in certain situations, the parents themselves need to be censored. There's many children who find out about all sorts of things simply because the parents are so immature as to actually have a heated argument. There's many children who are traumatized by this alone. Of course, that only comes from selfishness of the parents, they forgot that whatever they're doing isn't important and all that's important is the child.

There needs to be a point when children are exposed to things though. If a child is somehow magically shielded from everything that people think should be censored until they're eighteen. Suddenly they'll walk into a new world that they weren't prepared for. I know my brother was furious that *** was never explained to him. He found himself in certain situations that he had to blindly stumble through simply because our dad didn't have the cojones to have "the talk".

Oh, and keep in mind that society decides what should be censored, and that's based on peoples opinions which are highly flawed. From one point of veiw, certain words are considered profane. From the other point of veiw, "curse" words are just words and there's nothing special about them. Also, studies show that children and adults both have issues with using medical terms for certain body parts that are appropriate; instead they have to use a word that's not considered appropriate and by doing so it keeps them from embarrassment. However, if they taught that these things weren't "dirty" or "evil" and they were just normal, then people would grow up being more comfortable with it and wouldn't have to snicker every time a perfectly harmless term for one's privates is used.
 

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This is actually the best argument for censorship I've ever seen. I don't really have much of a reply for this...although I do have to say that in certain situations, the parents themselves need to be censored. There's many children who find out about all sorts of things simply because the parents are so immature as to actually have a heated argument. There's many children who are traumatized by this alone. Of course, that only comes from selfishness of the parents, they forgot that whatever they're doing isn't important and all that's important is the child.

There needs to be a point when children are exposed to things though. If a child is somehow magically shielded from everything that people think should be censored until they're eighteen. Suddenly they'll walk into a new world that they weren't prepared for. I know my brother was furious that *** was never explained to him. He found himself in certain situations that he had to blindly stumble through simply because our dad didn't have the cojones to have "the talk".

Oh, and keep in mind that society decides what should be censored, and that's based on peoples opinions which are highly flawed. From one point of veiw, certain words are considered profane. From the other point of veiw, "curse" words are just words and there's nothing special about them. Also, studies show that children and adults both have issues with using medical terms for certain body parts that are appropriate; instead they have to use a word that's not considered appropriate and by doing so it keeps them from embarrassment. However, if they taught that these things weren't "dirty" or "evil" and they were just normal, then people would grow up being more comfortable with it and wouldn't have to snicker every time a perfectly harmless term for one's privates is used.

Nicely said but your argument is centering more towards *** education; and no more about censorship. Basically, that's another topic. We should disclaim that censorship is not the prevention of *** education. In fact, imo, censorship barely has connections towards *** education.
 
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