CE Finals Kyubi cloak Naruto godstomps CE Finals Sasuke?

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Fact 1. Sasuke said his base body was adapting to the power
Fact2 , Sasuke was obviously referring to the cm , ADAPTING to his base body.
Fact 3. Kabuto notes the strengthening of his base chakra.

LOL Sasuke's base chakra obviously wasn't always that powerful , enough so to scare the crap outa kabuto. Clear increase in chakra levels is clear but But anyway man believe wat you want , not about to go in circles.
Fact 1. Already addressed, he said it after receding the curse seal so we know the context.

Fact 2. Yep, so he can use curse mark powers with no problem when he can adapt to it fully.

Fact 3. Well yeah, Uchiha chakra atrgethens the stronger their eyes are. Last time I checked base chakra has Yin and yang in it. Yin of Sasuke was strengthened by achieving 3T, so it makes sense.
 
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Fact 1. Already addressed, he said it after receding the curse seal so we know the context.

Fact 2. Yep, so he can use curse mark powers with no problem when he can adapt to it fully.

Fact 3. Well yeah, Uchiha chakra atrgethens the stronger their eyes are. Last time I checked base chakra has Yin and yang in it. Yin of Sasuke was strengthened by achieving 3T, so it makes sense.
Fact1. Already debunked. He didn't recede the cm. He didn't even know it was active in the first place. It synchronized with his body which is why it receded and why sasuke said his base body was adapting in the first place.

Fact2. Yep , which obviously makes his body stronger so he can use the new curse mark power with no problem.

Fact3. Sasuke never noted any increase in his chakra's power after he awakened 3T. So no. Clearly his chakra changed in some form but not to the point it wouldn't be addressed.
 

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Fact1. Already debunked. He didn't recede the cm. He didn't even know it was active. It synchronized with his body which is why it receded and why sasuke said his base body was adapting in the first place. Sasuke started in his full cm2 form then it adjusted into his body , leaving that half of his face which later synchronized with his base.

Fact2. Yep , which obviously makes his body stronger so he can use the new curse mark power with no problem.

Fact3. Sasuke never noted any increase in his chakra's power after he awakened 3T. So no. Clearly his chakra changed in some form but not to the point it wouldn't be addressed.
Fact 1. Already solod.

Fact 2. Only when using the curse mark powers.

Fact 3. Sasuke doesn't need too, he didn't note it with his MS progressions either. Yet we aren't going to deny that are we.
 
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Fact 1. Already solod.

Fact 2. Only when using the curse mark powers.

Fact 3. Sasuke doesn't need too, he didn't note it with his MS progressions either. Yet we aren't going to deny that are we.
Nice fanfic. Fact1. He didn't recede the cm as he didn't even know it was active in the first place. It synchronized with his body which is why it receded and why sasuke said his base body was adapting. After it receded , meaning it receded due to the adaptation with sasuke's base. Facts.

Fact2. Body has to get stronger to handle and use the curse mark powers. Hence the synchronization part.

Fact3. Exactly , Sasuke didn't need to , because we had karin there to address it for him. Yet we aren't going to deny that are we.
 
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I think so too. What distinguishes Chuunin Final's Sasuke from Lee is Chidori; Lee is a bit stronger otherwise, because Sasuke can't maintain the speed well and only reached the speed of Base Lee -not Gated-. If cloaked Naruto had the reactions and speed to contend with Neji, that means he also had the speed and reactions to contend with Sasuke in CoQ.
Don't forget his Sharingan (chapter 114, pages 4-5). Sasuke also has the CM to enhance his attributes.

Depends on if Lee actually sparred Neji with Gates & no weights. Imo, Neji probably never fought unweighted Lee let alone Gated Lee,
He didn't. He was forbidden to use Gates unless in life threatening circumstances.

but 0-Tail Naruto's speed scales well enough on its own anyway cause it could blitz Sasuke.
Chunin Finals Naruto never used that mode. Kyuubi gave him some chakra but Naruto kept his original appearance. Unlike the Valley.

It really comes down to whether Naruto has the means to avoid eating a Chidori, and Naruto's speed alone is means enough for me. Chidori is an extremely telegraphed jutsu. It seems like the first few moments of Chidori's lunge is dedicated to building up speed, and the rest of it is just a full on throttle. All Naruto actually needs to do if he wants to dodge Chidori is avoid the direction where Sasuke's speed ramps towards; Not the Chidori itself, just the path before Sasuke even covers ground. Gaara was simply a convenient enemy thanks to him being relatively slow and immobilizing himself.
The entire point of using Sharingan with Chidori is to be able to evade counterattacks.

Yea, now that you mention it, clones could turn the matchup and he does have defensive abilities. Even more, Naruto doesn't have to actually outperform Lee anyways because Lee loses if he can't incapacitate the real Naruto before his timer runs out. I 100% agree with the reasoning, but the portrayal clones have in the story has typically been that they're cannon fodder. E.g. Sasuke could always neg them even when they were nigh equal(Rooftop, VoTe 2 ground fight). Or that time when Kimimaro effortlessly beat up hundreds of cloaked Narutos without drawing from his curse mark, then injured GATELESS Lee comes along and gives Kimimaro impressions of being stronger. Naruto probably wins the matchup consistently, but I disagree on the strength of his clones.
Equal? Base Sasuke was much faster than Naruto. Ontop of that he has Sharingan to keep track of and see through movements, plus CM to enhance his speed further. A single fire ball took out dozens of clones. Rasengan=Chidori but Sasuke could always avoid it and hit Naruto's body directly. Nonetheless, CM amping Chidori would overtake Rasengan. Naruto doesn't stand a chance without inconsistent Kyuubi boost.

I think CM + Sharingan warrants more than 1 Gate Lee, but still agree that it'd be a stomp. Sasuke could contend with Gaara's impartial transform and only fell because his Curse Mark immobilized him. Really depends on how much CM boosts Sasuke speed, but I feel his 2 tomoe should allow him to keep up for as long as his legs work(which isn't long).
CM boost is akin to 5 gates Lee.

People plz learn how to read and comprehend the manga. Sasuke's base chakra got much stronger.

That's the reason sasuke said his base body was adapting. The power was adjusting to his body which is why the cm half on his face receded by itself , which prompted sasuke to say his body was adapting already. kabuto's reaction to the power of his base chakra is a result of this adaptation and confirms it. The proof is in the pudding iced with his superior durability and physical feats. Beyond that it should be common sense that VOTE Sasuke is stronger than CE but i guess not.

If you still choose to deny hard proof that sasuke's base became stronger then we can just leave it here. Really don't have the energy to debate the obvious.
You don't know how the CM works. The users chakra is replaced by Orochimaru's Senjutsu chakra. By your logic Sasuke would constantly have CM activated as that would be his new base.
 
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