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CE Finals Kyubi cloak Naruto godstomps CE Finals Sasuke?
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Curse mark sasuke was already on edge seeing a weaker and lesser amount of chakra
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Naruto placed all that massive chakra into clones.
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While in the CE , he placed all that chakra (WAY MORE CHAKRA THAN WAT CM1 SASUKE SAW), into his raw stats.
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So if curse mark sasuke reacted in such a way to an inferior version and began his decent into jealousy. How would he react to a vastly superior version using vastly more chakra to amp his stats.
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I think so too. What distinguishes Chuunin Final's Sasuke from Lee is Chidori; Lee is a bit stronger otherwise, because Sasuke can't maintain the speed well and only reached the speed of Base Lee -not Gated-. If cloaked Naruto had the reactions and speed to contend with Neji, that means he also had the speed and reactions to contend with Sasuke in CoQ.
Depends on if Lee actually sparred Neji with Gates & no weights. Imo, Neji probably never fought unweighted Lee let alone Gated Lee, but 0-Tail Naruto's speed scales well enough on its own anyway cause it could blitz Sasuke. Gated Lee is pretty likely to outclass every genin during the Finals, but his issue was a lack of firepower to bypass defenses. Gated Lee would probably thrash on cloaked Naruto(if Kurama's healing is restricted) and Finals Sasuke because they have 0 defensive abilities.
It really comes down to whether Naruto has the means to avoid eating a Chidori, and Naruto's speed alone is means enough for me. Chidori is an extremely telegraphed jutsu. It seems like the first few moments of Chidori's lunge is dedicated to building up speed, and the rest of it is just a full on throttle. All Naruto actually needs to do if he wants to dodge Chidori is avoid the direction where Sasuke's speed ramps towards; Not the Chidori itself, just the path before Sasuke even covers ground. Gaara was simply a convenient enemy thanks to him being relatively slow and immobilizing himself.
Depends on if Lee actually sparred Neji with Gates & no weights. Imo, Neji probably never fought unweighted Lee let alone Gated Lee, but 0-Tail Naruto's speed scales well enough on its own anyway cause it could blitz Sasuke. Gated Lee is pretty likely to outclass every genin during the Finals, but his issue was a lack of firepower to bypass defenses. Gated Lee would probably thrash on cloaked Naruto(if Kurama's healing is restricted) and Finals Sasuke because they have 0 defensive abilities.
It really comes down to whether Naruto has the means to avoid eating a Chidori, and Naruto's speed alone is means enough for me. Chidori is an extremely telegraphed jutsu. It seems like the first few moments of Chidori's lunge is dedicated to building up speed, and the rest of it is just a full on throttle. All Naruto actually needs to do if he wants to dodge Chidori is avoid the direction where Sasuke's speed ramps towards; Not the Chidori itself, just the path before Sasuke even covers ground. Gaara was simply a convenient enemy thanks to him being relatively slow and immobilizing himself.
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Agreed and with clones his battle power skyrockets.
Both gai and lee confirmed that lee's answer for beating neji in cqc , is the hidden lotus. Lee himself while in 4th gate said that this was his ace in the hole for neji. Wouldn't be his ace in the hole unless he already tried other options before getting there. Gated lee actually loses to cloaked naruto. In a weaker state with vastly less chakra and power he created 2k clones then proceeded to stomp 1 tail gaara. He showed he can flare up his chakra all around himself when he clashed with rotation , which can double as a barrier. Which can clash with something on par with gaara's sand shield which is way above gated lee's paygrade. Finally naruto's quick use of shadow clones gives him the against gated lee.
Finals sasuke gets blitzed by Gated lee even in cm1. The gap in combat speed with the 4th gate and up is too wide for this version of sasuke to overcome with his sharingan and cm.
Speed + clones + wide physical chakra bursts. Cloaked naruto was pretty much directly hinted at being the normal red eyes version , just in a controlled and stable state.
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The only other instances where naruto actually had to use and fight using kurama's power in an unstable state could only be his red eyes form at the time. If it's at least relative to red eyes form in stats then speed is all his needs. The inferior chakra used to create 2k clones already had cm1 sasuke on edge in canon. Same happens here but way worse since it's a vastly superior naruto. I think the manga gives enough evidence for this jus wanted to see if i could be wrong.
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lol nice fan-fic , got any scans showing kyubi cloak naruto losing from one punch and kick to saskey? All i remember is cm1 saskey shitting himself due to a vastly inferior form of naruto.dat version naruto coon lost to one punch and one kick from saskey......
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LOL guess you also forgot how to read. Take a good look at the thread title , then come back to my request for a scan , ok bud? lolAs u axed
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u axed about punch and kick from saskey solo'ing naruto coon in his kyupee cloak n i show u a receipts.......
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oh and it was base mode saskey not curse mode
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LOL yea. Anyway i'm obviously dealing with a troll here. Good day sir.u axed about punch and kick from saskey solo'ing naruto coon in his kyupee cloak n i show u a receipts.......
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oh and it was base mode saskey not curse mode
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CE Finals Kyubi cloak Naruto godstomps CE Finals Sasuke?
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Yea, now that you mention it, clones could turn the matchup and he does have defensive abilities. Even more, Naruto doesn't have to actually outperform Lee anyways because Lee loses if he can't incapacitate the real Naruto before his timer runs out. I 100% agree with the reasoning, but the portrayal clones have in the story has typically been that they're cannon fodder. E.g. Sasuke could always neg them even when they were nigh equal(Rooftop, VoTe 2 ground fight). Or that time when Kimimaro effortlessly beat up hundreds of cloaked Narutos without drawing from his curse mark, then injured GATELESS Lee comes along and gives Kimimaro impressions of being stronger. Naruto probably wins the matchup consistently, but I disagree on the strength of his clones.
I think CM + Sharingan warrants more than 1 Gate Lee, but still agree that it'd be a stomp. Sasuke could contend with Gaara's impartial transform and only fell because his Curse Mark immobilized him. Really depends on how much CM boosts Sasuke speed, but I feel his 2 tomoe should allow him to keep up for as long as his legs work(which isn't long).
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To be fair, Sasuke was bedridden for a few months and didn't train, when he fodderstomps Naruto. That would mean VoE Naruto whose kicks and punches were slapping around Naruto would've been a lot weaker physically compared to his CE self.
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All that was made irrelevant the moment sasuke awakened from his coffin after the sound4 did their ritual.
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His new level of power was synchronizing into his base , giving much stronger base chakra and stats.
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Base VOTE Sasuke is likely way stronger than his CE2 self with curse mark active much less base for base.
-Rooftop Sasuke went from getting instantly stomped in a single hit by cm1 Sakon and getting heavily injured by his attacks base for base to easily tanking multiple hits from a much physically stronger character in KNO Naruto and KN1 Naruto without much problems in base. Then in CM1 said KN1 Naruto's attacks didn't even hurt him at all , someone much physically stronger than even cm2 sakon where cm1 sakon already stomped cm1 sasuke with a hit. That along with scaring the crap outa Kabuto with his base chakra alone proves that he's far above his CE self even in base.
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I agree with everything here apart from the notion that i overestimated naruto's clones. Never did. Those examples you gave also do not work.
-Naruto never used 2k clones against rooftop sasuke. Not even close.
-A vastly smaller amount of clones were able to tag him multiple times. Yes he fried them at the end but again it was way less than 2k and those clones were never amped by kyubi cloaks.
-base Kimimaro is on a whole other level compared to CE CM1 Sasuke , yet even he would've gotten tagged before using his bone sword if he hadn't resorted to using his kkg defensively.
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But yea , never overestimated the strength of naruto's clones , just simply acknowledged the facts that with them , naruto has the tools to beat gated lee.
Come on man when did i say 1 gate lee warrants as much as CM + Sharingan? The part you quoted has me saying this. "Finals sasuke gets blitzed by Gated lee even in cm1. The gap in combat speed with the 4th gate and up is too wide for this version of sasuke to overcome with his sharingan and cm."
CE Sasuke with CM1 active could possibly be somewhere around base VOTE 2T Sasuke's level since the new power up gained from the ritual was synchronizing into sasuke's base.
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Making his new adapted base and CM1 form much stronger than they ever were before. 2T VOTE Sasuke was casually speed blitzed by KNO Naruto , a character who isn't faster than 4th gate lee in any type of speed nor as skilled. The gap in combat speed is enormous. CM1 CE 2t Sasuke gets trashed for sure.
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Stop calling me gayvenger and why should I bother with UnknownJin, he has double personality disorder since he sometimes appear as a Sasuke fan and other times he calls him a faggot, he reminds me of minamoto and his alt Kakooli.
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People plz learn how to read and comprehend the manga. Sasuke's base chakra got much stronger.
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That's the reason sasuke said his base body was adapting. The power was adjusting to his body which is why the cm half on his face receded by itself , which prompted sasuke to say his body was adapting already. kabuto's reaction to the power of his base chakra is a result of this adaptation and confirms it. The proof is in the pudding iced with his superior durability and physical feats. Beyond that it should be common sense that VOTE Sasuke is stronger than CE but i guess not.
If you still choose to deny hard proof that sasuke's base became stronger then we can just leave it here. Really don't have the energy to debate the obvious.
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salamander uchiha
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Nice fanfic, you're assumptions aren't facts.
Fact 1, Sasuke used cursed seal.
Fact 2, Sasuke was referring to cursed seal.
Also, Labuto has seen the sound four and has been helping Oro in his experiments for years. He knows what strengthened chakra looks like, so we know he's not referring to Oro's seal. Uchiha chakra is tied to their emotions and mental chakra. Also, Uchiha have naturally powerful chakra. That's what Kabuto is noticing.
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Fact 1. Sasuke said his base body was adapting to the new power up.
Fact2 , Yes Sasuke was obviously referring to the cm , ADAPTING to his base body.
Fact 3. Kabuto notes the strengthening of his base chakra which obviously wasn't always so powerful.
Fact4 , CM1 Sasuke went from getting stomped in a single hit by CM1 sakon , to easily tanking multiple hits from KN0/KN1 in base and said his attacks didn't even hurt in CM1.
LOL Sasuke's base chakra obviously wasn't always that powerful , enough so to scare the crap outa kabuto. Clear increase in chakra levels is clear along with physicals but anyway man believe wat you want , not about to go in circles.