Cant Deny Manga.. MS sasuke>SM naruto

[KidGamer65]

Naruto's SM Rasenshruiken showed cutting power, and far more than Danzo's Fuuton.

Like what?

 

[Sennin of Logic]

@bold: Wrong, manga disagrees with you there, big time. Yata already repelled any attack that came in contact with it yet you think Kirin would be not repelled for what ridiculous reason? Stop denying manga proof because it foils your argument.

Repelled.

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Repelled.

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Replled.

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You saying it doesn't repel attacks is false as the Db and manga feats disagree.

The one that he activated was V2. I already gave you an explanation of each Susanoo and you are still spouting this nonsense. My god.

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You can see the arms and the head of that Susanoo. Its the Skeleton Susanoo, V2. Ribcage is V1, V1 is not that big.

This is a V1 Susanoo for christ's sakes.

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Oh god, first of all Itachi said: "If it weren't for this, I would have been done for"

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This is referring to the Susanoo he is currently using, which is V2.

Not to mention he doesn't have time to put up V3 or V4 as we have seen how long it takes to throw that up.

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Impossible for him to have done that BEFORE Kirin struck him, completely impossible and if you think otherwise then you should slap yourself.

What the hell are you talking about. How the hell does V2 Susanoo blocking Kirin mean Danzo + BAku Fuuton>Kirin? Kirin completely obliterated the Susanoo. REMEMBER THAT. Meaning it would do serious damage to V3, Danzo's Fuuton buffed by Baku only did minor damage to it.



Its a special ability of V4 yet he used it on the Ribcage? Enton Kagutsuchi is a completely separate technique from Susanoo, as stated by C. He uses his left eye to use Amaterasu and his right eye to control the flames. Completely unrelated to Susanoo.

The scan says left eye but look at the panel and you will see that he used his right eye.

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Regardless, the fact he made it to that point without collapsing and dying is enough to say he won't collapse while fighting SM Naruto, whose SM only lasts for 5 minutes, which becomes less as he uses FRS.

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You're really holding on to V2 aren't you? My point with the Danzo jutsu is that, if the defense boost from versions of susanoo are as large as you say, then Danzo's jutsu would have to be greater than Kirin.


As for blocking Kirin argument.

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Does it look like he has Susanoo activated?

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What proof do you have that he was talking about that version and not the 3rd power itself?

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That's nonsense.

Not to mention he doesn't have time to put up V3 or V4 as we have seen how long it takes to throw that up.

You mean like this?

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Oh yes, that took a long transition. Yeah, it's not like he directly went to V3 or anything.

Slap yourself.

Its a special ability of V4 yet he used it on the Ribcage? Enton Kagutsuchi is a completely separate technique from Susanoo, as stated by C. He uses his left eye to use Amaterasu and his right eye to control the flames. Completely unrelated to Susanoo.

And yet, using amaterasu forced him to disband V1/2 susanoo, the least strenuous one.

As for Yata, I didn't mean that attacks wouldn't work on it, I meant it didn't reflect the attacks back at their source. Kirin probably was intercepted by yata and was deflected like the snake, except to the ground near him. I could be wrong, but so could you. It's unprovable.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Like what?

Like cutting through multiple boulders in the anime version of the Pain fight.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

destroying their chakra network

when using it against a chakra construct like Susano

Ahem.

Are you really using rank to compare the strengths of different jutsu? Lmao, this is hilarious. Rank=/=Power

Of course Rank = power, what the hell?

Chidori and Rasengan are equal, as A rank jutsus.

Raikiri is stronger than Chidori, thus it is S rank.

Amaterasu burned through Sasuke's rank C katon, being the strongest Katon, ranked S.

Manga feats disagree with the bold. V2 blocked Kirin which is obviously stronger than FRS

That's A>B>C logic and A>B>C logic is utter shit.

 

[KidGamer65]

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You're really holding on to V2 aren't you? My point with the Danzo jutsu is that, if the defense boost from versions of susanoo are as large as you say, then Danzo's jutsu would have to be greater than Kirin.

Uh, no it wouldn't be. Don't even know where you got that BS from.

As for blocking Kirin argument.

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Does it look like he has Susanoo activated?

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What proof do you have that he was talking about that version and not the 3rd power itself?

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That's nonsense.

Susanoo isn't activated because IT WAS DESTROYED BY KIRIN. God, read the damn manga.

The 3rd power is Susanoo you fool.

You mean like this?

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Oh yes, that took a long transition. Yeah, it's not like he directly went to V3 or anything.

Slap yourself.

This is all your shit argument consists of. Taking valid manga scans, tossing them to the side and trying to prove me wrong with different scans. I already know you can't read the manga properly but I didn't think it was this bad. THAT IS SASUKE IN THAT SCAN. I already showed how long it took for ITACHI TO DO SO.

Itachi=/=Sasuke. Slap yourself and move along now.

And yet, using amaterasu forced him to disband V1/2 susanoo, the least strenuous one.

As for Yata, I didn't mean that attacks wouldn't work on it, I meant it didn't reflect the attacks back at their source. Kirin probably was intercepted by yata and was deflected like the snake, except to the ground near him. I could be wrong, but so could you. It's unprovable.

Using Amaterasu quickly after Susanoo is what caused that. Something he doesn't need to do in this fight until Naruto is cornered, once that happens he dies and it doesn't matter if he collapses from using Amaterasu while Susanoo is up.

And he even put Susanoo back up later on, in a higher form.

It was never stated that Kirin reflects attack back to the source, otherwise that paper bomb explosion would have hit Sasuke. It simply repels them. If Kirin was repelled Susanoo wouldn't have been destroyed. My god, your post are becoming more and more idiotic as we go on.

 

[Gakido]

Like what?

Cutting through Animal Path and the statues at Mount Myoboku.

 

[KidGamer65]

Ahem.

Destroying the chakra network is different from destroying actual chakra. Go look at the explanation of FRS's effects.

Of course Rank = power, what the hell?

Chidori and Rasengan are equal, as A rank jutsus.

Raikiri is stronger than Chidori, thus it is S rank.

Amaterasu burned through Sasuke's rank C katon, being the strongest Katon, ranked S.

Oh god, slap yourself. First of all every jutsu has a rank yet some jutsu don't rely on power at all. What the hell does that tell you? Does it make sense to base the whole ranking system on power when not all jutsu have power? God use your brain.

Raikiri is S-Rank because it requires more chakra control to be able to learn it when compared to Chidori.

That's A>B>C logic and A>B>C logic is utter shit.

When comparing ninja, not the destructive power of jutsu.

Cutting through Animal Path and the statues at Mount Myoboku.

Cutting through Animal Path and Cutting Through Statues are better feats than cutting open a V3 Susanoo? You have to be joking.

 

[Gakido]

Cutting through Animal Path and Cutting Through Statues are better feats than cutting open a V3 Susanoo? You have to be joking.

What has that Susano'O tanked thats all that special? Sasuke's Ribcage Susano'O was broken by mere punches from A.

Naruto's FRS is also of a higher rank and pedigree. Heres some feats from the pain fight as well (

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): Notice how it cut through an absurd amout of Large rock structures and still did this when finnaly stopped (

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). Sasuke's Incomplete Susano'O isn't stopping something with that DC

Edit: I also realized i mentioned the wrong path. He cut Human path.

I also, Believe that Itachi used Yata to block Kirin. Just throwing that out there.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

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Uh, no it wouldn't be. Don't even know where you got that BS from.



Susanoo isn't activated because IT WAS DESTROYED BY KIRIN. God, read the damn manga.

The 3rd power is Susanoo you fool.



This is all your shit argument consists of. Taking valid manga scans, tossing them to the side and trying to prove me wrong with different scans. I already know you can't read the manga properly but I didn't think it was this bad. THAT IS SASUKE IN THAT SCAN. I already showed how long it took for ITACHI TO DO SO.

Itachi=/=Sasuke. Slap yourself and move along now.






Using Amaterasu quickly after Susanoo is what caused that. Something he doesn't need to do in this fight until Naruto is cornered, once that happens he dies and it doesn't matter if he collapses from using Amaterasu while Susanoo is up.

And he even put Susanoo back up later on, in a higher form.

It was never stated that Kirin reflects attack back to the source, otherwise that paper bomb explosion would have hit Sasuke. It simply repels them. If Kirin was repelled Susanoo wouldn't have been destroyed. My god, your post are becoming more and more idiotic as we go on.

Susanoo isn't activated because IT WAS DESTROYED BY KIRIN. God, read the damn manga.

The 3rd power is Susanoo you fool.

Learn how to read. This is what I said.

What proof do you have that he was talking about that version and not the 3rd power itself?

I meant how do you know he was saying that the particular version of susanoo he was using is what saved him, or if he was talking about susanoo in general, like maybe a higher version than what you've said.

If Kirin were deflected at the ground, the force could still probable destroy it.

Susanoo isn't activated because IT WAS DESTROYED BY KIRIN. God, read the damn manga.

That's the first time we saw susanoo, so, you can't conclude that V2 is what blocked Kirin. Want proof?

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We didn't see any susanoo, therefore, we can't tell what version it was in. You've been stating it like it was a fact that Itachi used V2, but it was never shown.

THAT IS SASUKE IN THAT SCAN. I already showed how long it took for ITACHI TO DO SO.

Itachi=/=Sasuke. Slap yourself and move along now.

SO....... Why are you using Itachi's susanoo durability to tell what Sasuke's can handle??????

 

[EliteRamenNinja]

Hahaha, just read this entire thread. And once again Naruto-fans own the Sasuke-fans. it's getting boring... xd

Naruto X man and others, keep it up! You all don't even need my help, you are all doing fine! =D

 

[KidGamer65]

What has that Susano'O tanked thats all that special? Sasuke's Ribcage Susano'O was broken by mere punches from A.

Naruto's FRS is also of a higher rank and pedigree. Heres some feats from the pain fight as well (

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): Notice how it cut through an absurd amout of Large rock structures and still did this when finnaly stopped (

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). Sasuke's Incomplete Susano'O isn't stopping something with that DC

Edit: I also realized i mentioned the wrong path. He cut Human path.

I also, Believe that Itachi used Yata to block Kirin. Just throwing that out there.

It has already blocked something with more DC than FRS. Kirin.

Impossible. He had no time to form it nor was the attack repelled by the mirror.

Learn how to read. This is what I said.


I meant how do you know he was saying that the particular version of susanoo he was using is what saved him, or if he was talking about susanoo in general, like maybe a higher version than what you've said.

If Kirin were deflected at the ground, the force could still probable destroy it.

Already showed why he had no time to manifest V3 or V4 Susanoo with the Yata Mirror, meaning its was V2. Unless you think it was V1.

If Kirin was repelled by the mirror why would the mirror be damaged? That makes no sense at all. What you are saying is that it repelled it towards the ground (Which is dumb and makes ZERO sense as it would repel it in the opposite direction it came from just like it did to the other attacks) and the Kirin hitting the ground near Susanoo destroyed the mirror along with Susanoo (Despite the fact that ALL of the attack would be repelled in the first place)

You have no argument on this part of the debate anymore. Its just you tossing aside the obvious facts that lead to V2 being used to block Kirin and instead rambling on about how there are no scans that actually show it blocking Kirin.

That's the first time we saw susanoo, so, you can't conclude that V2 is what blocked Kirin. Want proof?


We didn't see any susanoo, therefore, we can't tell what version it was in. You've been stating it like it was a fact that Itachi used V2, but it was never shown.

Are you going to keep repeating the same nonsense over and over again? Itachi had no time to put up V3 or V4 Susanoo w/ Yata Mirror. Kirin wasn't repelled meaning Yata Mirror wasn't used at all. Yata Mirror is only used with V3 and V4 Susanoos. Meaning a version w/o the mirror was used. Hence V2, unless you think it was V1 which would be dumb so that only leaves V2.

SO....... Why are you using Itachi's susanoo durability to tell what Sasuke's can handle??????

Same level of Susanoo. Same armor. No difference at all. There is a clear difference between Itachi and Sasuke.

Hahaha, just read this entire thread. And once again Naruto-fans own the Sasuke-fans. it's getting boring... xd

Naruto X man and others, keep it up! You all don't even need my help, you are all doing fine! =D

Narutards will be Narutards. Assuming debaters for Sasuke are Sasuke fans...my god. How sickening.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

You are a Sasuke fan, though.

 

[Gakido]

It has already blocked something with more DC than FRS. Kirin.

Impossible. He had no time to form it nor was the attack repelled by the mirror.

repell doesn't mean it sent it back. The Explosive tags still finished their attack upon the mirror. And again, its much more logical it was the mirror, thus making it still suceptible to FRS. Especially when Danzo's Fuuton was capable of such a thing and Naruto's FRS is stronger.

By your logic Danzo's Fuuton is on par with Kirin in DC.

 

[KidGamer65]

You are a Sasuke fan, though.

EVen if you can classify me as a Sasuke fan (He is one of my favorite characters) Not everyone debating for Sasuke on this thread can automatically be called, a Sasuke fan.

 

[EliteRamenNinja]

People need to understand when they got owned.

 

[Gakido]

EVen if you can classify me as a Sasuke fan (He is one of my favorite characters) Not everyone debating for Sasuke on this thread can automatically be called, a Sasuke fan.

Not as bad as being labeled a Minato hater by T Bogard if you think Minato loses to anbody lol.

 

[KidGamer65]

repell doesn't mean it sent it back. The Explosive tags still finished their attack upon the mirror. And again, its much more logical it was the mirror, thus making it still suceptible to FRS.

Repel means to make it bounce back. Sasuke and his sword both got repelled by the mirror, hence them both being sent flying backwards. Sasuke definitely didn't just get blocked by the mirror, he got sent flying backwards.

The explosive tags were repelled as well, as the explosion wasn't even touching the Susanoo, the mirror extended and repelled it. It doesn't necessary mean it has to go back to its source.

 

[Gakido]

Repel means to make it bounce back. Sasuke and his sword both got repelled by the mirror, hence them both being sent flying backwards. Sasuke definitely didn't just get blocked by the mirror, he got sent flying backwards.

The explosive tags were repelled as well, as the explosion wasn't even touching the Susanoo, the mirror extended and repelled it. It doesn't necessary mean it has to go back to its source.

So if Kirin didn't get bounced back it wasn't repelled? Repell is a broad term and can be any distance.

 

[KidGamer65]

People need to understand when they got owned.

Agreed. People need to understand that they have gotten owned when all they can do is talk about how there are no scans, despite everything pointing towards the obvious.

Considering you are a Naruto fanboy, not surprised you think I've gotten owned. Provide examples of me getting owned and then you can talk, until then, stfu, and gtfo.

Not as bad as being labeled a Minato hater by T Bogard if you think Minato loses to anbody lol.

Lmao.

So if Kirin didn't get bounced back it wasn't repelled? Repell is a broad term and can be any distance.

The main fact that Kirin completely obliterated Susanoo and left Itachi on the ground is proof that it wasn't blocked or repelled.

It can be any distance, but Kirin showed no signs of being repelled.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

It has already blocked something with more DC than FRS. Kirin.

Impossible. He had no time to form it nor was the attack repelled by the mirror.




Already showed why he had no time to manifest V3 or V4 Susanoo with the Yata Mirror, meaning its was V2. Unless you think it was V1.

If Kirin was repelled by the mirror why would the mirror be damaged? That makes no sense at all. What you are saying is that it repelled it towards the ground (Which is dumb and makes ZERO sense as it would repel it in the opposite direction it came from just like it did to the other attacks) and the Kirin hitting the ground near Susanoo destroyed the mirror along with Susanoo (Despite the fact that ALL of the attack would be repelled in the first place)

You have no argument on this part of the debate anymore. Its just you tossing aside the obvious facts that lead to V2 being used to block Kirin and instead rambling on about how there are no scans that actually show it blocking Kirin.



Are you going to keep repeating the same nonsense over and over again? Itachi had no time to put up V3 or V4 Susanoo w/ Yata Mirror. Kirin wasn't repelled meaning Yata Mirror wasn't used at all. Yata Mirror is only used with V3 and V4 Susanoos. Meaning a version w/o the mirror was used. Hence V2, unless you think it was V1 which would be dumb so that only leaves V2.



Same level of Susanoo. Same armor. No difference at all. There is a clear difference between Itachi and Sasuke.



Narutards will be Narutards. Assuming debaters for Sasuke are Sasuke fans...my god. How sickening.

I'll reply to you later. You're just raging now that I've destroyed your logic. I won't hold to much on yata mirror though. I'm done with that we don't know whatever.