[Discussion] Can Whitebeard beat Mihawk?

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LOL he wasn't called the strongest man in the world for shit unless you think Mihawk is a woman
 
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LOL he wasn't called the strongest man in the world unless you think Mihawk is a woman
Whitebeard renounced his title in Marineford. I think when Marco and Crocodile were shocked that he couldnt evade Squards move Whitebeard said something like "call me a demon but I cant be the strongest forever"
 

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Whitebeard renounced his title in Marineford. I think when Marco and Crocodile were shocked that he couldnt evade Squards move Whitebeard said something like "call me a demon but I cant be the strongest forever"
Yeah when he died that was the moment when he wasn't anymore
 

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Even Mihawk knew their difference in power, hence him saying he wants to measure that gap.

psssh his strongest slash got tanked by a WB commander.

Mihawk even went one on one with vista commander evenly so I dont see why people claim hes yonko level.

Yeah he rivaled Shanks in the past but that was way back before shanks was even a yonko probably and I'm sure shank's power has grown way more since then.

Mihawk doesn't stand a chance against current shanks or WB marineford arc.

I'd say even the admirals take him high diff.
 

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Whitebeard renounced his title in Marineford. I think when Marco and Crocodile were shocked that he couldnt evade Squards move Whitebeard said something like "call me a demon but I cant be the strongest forever"
Yup. I don't think Whitebeard's body is capable of carrying him enough to stand up to someone like Mihawk. He'd probably gravely injure him, but I can see Mihawk winning due to Pops' body giving out on him.
Even Mihawk knew their difference in power, hence him saying he wants to measure that gap.

psssh his strongest slash got tanked by a WB commander.

Mihawk even went one on one with vista commander evenly so I dont see why people claim hes yonko level.

Yeah he rivaled Shanks in the past but that was way back before shanks was even a yonko probably and I'm sure shank's power has grown way more since then.

Mihawk doesn't stand a chance against current shanks or WB marineford arc.

I'd say even the admirals take him high diff.
And yet, Mihawk still retains the title of the strongest swordsman in the world, despite the fact that Shanks is a swordsman.
 

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Yeah I think good old Edward could still take him on then and there.

I think in a 1 on 1 situation when there are no distractions he can beat almost anyone.
 

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Considering that Mihawk is close enough to Shanks, a Yonko, to give him even duels, WB's status as a Yonko doesn't guarantee victory.
There are other shichibukais that have fought or dueled Yonkous before and made it out alive. That doesn't mean much except for the Pirates that challenged the Yonkou itself. The Yonkou's are the four strongest pirates in the Sea for a reason, so yes their title means everything.
Not taking anything away from Mihawk himself, but those friendly duels are off panel and off limits for anyone to power gauge strength with. Mihawk is strong, Shanks is strong, and Whitebeard is strong but they all have different characteristics and they all have different tolerances.
 

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There are other shichibukais that have fought or dueled Yonkous before and made it out alive. That doesn't mean much except for the Pirates that challenged the Yonkou itself. The Yonkou's are the four strongest pirates in the Sea for a reason, so yes their title means everything.
Not taking anything away from Mihawk himself, but those friendly duels are off panel and off limits for anyone to power gauge strength with. Mihawk is strong, Shanks is strong, and Whitebeard is strong but they all have different characteristics and they all have different tolerances.
The only Shichibukai said to have challenged Yonko at any point were Crocodile, Moriah, and Shanks. Crocodile was indicated to have been easily defeated, and we have proof he can't stand up against Yonko. Moriah was only said to have been utterly defeated by Kaido, losing his entire crew. He stopped working on his own strength, and we have proof that he can't stand up to Yonko.

Mihawk fits neither of these guys' situations. He was said to have stopped pursuing duels with Shanks when Shanks lost his arm, indicating that not too long ago, they were standing having their well-known duels. Considering Shanks was likely a Yonko then, it stands that he and Mihawk were still on the same level not too long ago. Given Mihawk's value in strength and his desire to keep his title of WSS, there's no reason to assume he wouldn't have worked to maintain if not increase his strength, and the same goes for Shanks.

In order words, we have nothing to indicate that Mihawk and Shanks aren't still on even enough ground to push each other substantially. Plus given Mihawk's title and the fact that Shanks falls under it, we have more than enough indication that Mihawk is Yonko level.
 

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The only Shichibukai said to have challenged Yonko at any point were Crocodile, Moriah, and Shanks. Crocodile was indicated to have been easily defeated, and we have proof he can't stand up against Yonko. Moriah was only said to have been utterly defeated by Kaido, losing his entire crew. He stopped working on his own strength, and we have proof that he can't stand up to Yonko.
If you even bothered to read properly I said that there are other shichibukai that dueled or survived against a yonkou. Crocodile was said to be left with a scar and a cut off arm in his fight with a rather healthy whitebeard. Moriah was said to be on par with Kaidou until he was defeated in the New world only him making it out alive.
As for Mihawk we know that him and Shanks were rivals having daily clashes even into the New world (where Moriah fell off).
What we don't know is....
1. Was he ever affiliated with a crew? (He is a pirate after all)
2. If he was, whatever happened to them?
3. Why didn't any of them killed each other for the title?
You can tell the type of rivalry Mihawk has with Shanks is completely different from Crocodile and Moriah's. For one, Mihawk doesn't stroll into Shank's territory and ask to have duels with Shanks if they were hostile towards each other. Mihawk then refuses to strike to fight Shanks just because he's handicapped and drunk. Where as Crocodile lost a hand and Moriah lost his whole crew.
So the sparring with a Yonkou is hardly a feat you can claim to make Mihawk capable of beating a Yonkou and we don't have any actual feat the Mihawk is capable of doing so either.
Mihawk fits neither of these guys' situations. He was said to have stopped pursuing duels with Shanks when Shanks lost his arm, indicating that not too long ago, they were standing having their well-known duels. Considering Shanks was likely a Yonko then, it stands that he and Mihawk were still on the same level not too long ago. Given Mihawk's value in strength and his desire to keep his title of WSS, there's no reason to assume he wouldn't have worked to maintain if not increase his strength, and the same goes for Shanks.
Read above, I already covered the difference between a friendly duel Shanks went through and the ones Kaidou and Whitebeard went through. The fact Mihawk was able to sit and have a drink with Shanks already shows that the duels are a sparing match and not a all out war like Kaidou and Whitebeard did.
In order words, we have nothing to indicate that Mihawk and Shanks aren't still on even enough ground to push each other substantially. Plus given Mihawk's title and the fact that Shanks falls under it, we have more than enough indication that Mihawk is Yonko level.
Very stupid analogy here. Because the Dark king Rayleigh and the Pirate king falls under this subject and they aren't hearing a peep out of Mihawk. Shanks has his own title like all the other Yonkous and being a Yonkou means that you are one of the four strongest pirates, Mihawk being a pirate follows these rules as well. Nothing indicates that Mihawk is as strong as a yonkou, you have no visible feats to support such outrageous claim.
Respect the title, the strongest four pirate doesn't just get handed out to just anybody. Mihawk is not Yonkou level, there wouldn't even be a need for the shichibakui system if that was even true. Mihawk is strong and probably close by my assumption but he is no Yonkou and that's for sure.
 

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WB was weak shit, to think people still thought that corpse could beat other Top Tiers in Marineford is beyond me. Kaido, Shanks, Akainu, Kizaru , Kuzan would all take a dump on him.

WB was the weak link in his crew, he was the reason Marco and Jozu and the rest of the group got crippled, because he was incompetent Jozu and Marco suffered. Jozu and Marco were the ones who were capable of handling an Admiral 1v1, WB couldn't handle an Admiral, falling to his knees, forcing Jozu and Marco to lose focus.
 

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If you even bothered to read properly I said that there are other shichibukai that dueled or survived against a yonkou. Crocodile was said to be left with a scar and a cut off arm in his fight with a rather healthy whitebeard. Moriah was said to be on par with Kaidou until he was defeated in the New world only him making it out alive.
As for Mihawk we know that him and Shanks were rivals having daily clashes even into the New world (where Moriah fell off).
What we don't know is....
1. Was he ever affiliated with a crew? (He is a pirate after all)
2. If he was, whatever happened to them?
3. Why didn't any of them killed each other for the title?
You can tell the type of rivalry Mihawk has with Shanks is completely different from Crocodile and Moriah's. For one, Mihawk doesn't stroll into Shank's territory and ask to have duels with Shanks if they were hostile towards each other. Mihawk then refuses to strike to fight Shanks just because he's handicapped and drunk. Where as Crocodile lost a hand and Moriah lost his whole crew.
So the sparring with a Yonkou is hardly a feat you can claim to make Mihawk capable of beating a Yonkou and we don't have any actual feat the Mihawk is capable of doing so either.

Read above, I already covered the difference between a friendly duel Shanks went through and the ones Kaidou and Whitebeard went through. The fact Mihawk was able to sit and have a drink with Shanks already shows that the duels are a sparing match and not a all out war like Kaidou and Whitebeard did.

Very stupid analogy here. Because the Dark king Rayleigh and the Pirate king falls under this subject and they aren't hearing a peep out of Mihawk. Shanks has his own title like all the other Yonkous and being a Yonkou means that you are one of the four strongest pirates, Mihawk being a pirate follows these rules as well. Nothing indicates that Mihawk is as strong as a yonkou, you have no visible feats to support such outrageous claim.
Respect the title, the strongest four pirate doesn't just get handed out to just anybody. Mihawk is not Yonkou level, there wouldn't even be a need for the shichibakui system if that was even true. Mihawk is strong and probably close by my assumption but he is no Yonkou and that's for sure.
So much truth in this post.. ^^^



The complete opposite applies for this post below though.. vvv

WB was weak shit, to think people still thought that corpse could beat other Top Tiers in Marineford is beyond me. Kaido, Shanks, Akainu, Kizaru , Kuzan would all take a dump on him.

WB was the weak link in his crew, he was the reason Marco and Jozu and the rest of the group got crippled, because he was incompetent Jozu and Marco suffered. Jozu and Marco were the ones who were capable of handling an Admiral 1v1, WB couldn't handle an Admiral, falling to his knees, forcing Jozu and Marco to lose focus.
I feel as though you are just trolling... but I just have to ask, are you serious with this post?
 
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