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If yes, then Madara hype> Kishi> Prime Hiruzen hype
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If Kishi can't kill Madara by feats then a disease will. That's how he took care of Itachi.
Kishi hasn't shown how Hashirama died though. right?

If Kishi can't kill Madara by feats then a disease will. That's how he took care of Itachi.
Kishi hasn't shown how Hashirama died though. right?
Kakuzu killed him?![]()
Kakuzu killed him?![]()
by wood splinters got in his peepee hole. making him unable to pee then he died a very painful way.
If that is true then, Shikamaru, Kakashi and Naruto >> Hashirama?

Maybie![]()
Ergo Indirectly, Shikamaru, Kakashi and Naruto >> Madara? :snick:

There is a rumour that Sasuke knows..........