Can This Kakashi Quote Explain Why Obito...

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I have read that it is impossible for Obito to be Tobi because of his age. However, I did some random reading of the earlier Mangas tonight, and I found this quote from Kakashi that may shed some light on why Obito could have been the masked person that tried to control the Kyuubi at Naruto's birth.

Here is the quote:

In this world, there exists kids younger than you… yet stronger than me.

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Hmmm...good find.
 

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This is true but the reason people find it hard for him to be obito is because he sucked and then came back a year later and fought toe to toe with minato. Also he was as tall as minato and his voice was deep as all hell.
 

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He only thought that because he thought at the time that he killed zabuza in a second, 100x faster than he could. That turned out to be completely false however.
 

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This is true but the reason people find it hard for him to be obito is because he sucked and then came back a year later and fought toe to toe with minato. Also he was as tall as minato and his voice was deep as all hell.

Look at how quicl naruto and sasuke improved also haven't these people heard of puberty and growth spurts? Lol
 

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Cool great find, however I have one of my own actually. It goes against the Tobi=Obito theory. Remember at the beginning of Naruto during the bell test, kakashi told naruto to "avoid deception by seeing beneath the underneath." I feel it applies because we have to see beneath the underneath(Tobi's mask/face)
 

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He only thought that because he thought at the time that he killed zabuza in a second, 100x faster than he could. That turned out to be completely false however.

Haku was not younger than them. Kakashi knew what he was talking about. xd Nice try though.

OT: Nice. I agree with you.
 

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First, I'd like to state (even though it's irrelevant to the topic) that even at this point in time, Haku was NOT stronger than Kakashi. The hoax to save Zabuza just made it seem like it was so.

Secondly, we CAN'T rule out that Madara somehow trained Obito.

Not only do they know of each others existence, but they have BOTH shown the ability to control the Kyuubi. If Madara did indeed train Tobi, then being able to control the Kyuubi should be of no surprise.

Let's compare the time span of Obito "sucking" to Naruto training during the time-skip.

Obito-Uchiha clan member that already knew how to do elemental recomposition before becoming a Chuunin as seen here...




Look at the order of the pages if not just re-read the manga to see that he learned something MOST Genin couldn't do.

Then he becomes a Chunin and gets crushed by a rock. This ends the "Obito" we knew and he becomes Tobi, but he had SOME talent before he died. Meaning he had something to bring out.

Now take Jiraiya for instance training Naruto.

Naruto left for two and a half years. Learned Rasengan before that, and under life-and-death circumstances, used it against Kabuto.

He comes back to Konoha at the beginning of Part II with more tactics, a bigger Rasengan, and a as of yet unexplained jutsu. NOT super impressive, but nonetheless he is quite a bit stronger than his peers in Konoha by this time. He has the legendary Sannin Jiraiya for his teacher, who was not born during the time Madara was.

Go back to Obito. He has Madara as a teacher, who has the Sharingan. Obito has the Sharingan. Obito has a master of the Sharingan TEACHING him how to use his Sharingan. He learns to control the Kyuubi and unlocks the Mangekyo Sharingan.

Training with Madara is probably the Naruto equivalent of training with King Kai in DBZ, while Jiraiya would be like.... Master Roshi.
 
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This is true but the reason people find it hard for him to be obito is because he sucked and then came back a year later and fought toe to toe with minato. Also he was as tall as minato and his voice was deep as all hell.

Let's look at it in this light... but please forgive me if I bring an anime insight to the manga forum. I have to since you referenced the deep voice, which can only be know from watching the anime. In the anime, Tobi initially talked with a very high pitched voice, and was a klutz, too. No way I thought this person could be what he is now. However, his voice started to turn deep when he spoke to Zetsu about Sasuke defeating Itachi... oh, and he stopped being a klutz, too.
 
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When realy madara trained with him than it makes alot of sense.
Or the zetsu within him makes him stronger. And dont forget about his ms skill thats the only reason that we think hes "strong".
 

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This is true but the reason people find it hard for him to be obito is because he sucked and then came back a year later and fought toe to toe with minato. Also he was as tall as minato and his voice was deep as all hell.

I can't really argue the whole height thing not yet anyway we still have to see how Kishi explains this. But the voice I can argue it was never once mentioned in the manga that his voice changed not one time and since it happened in the anime not the manga guess what its not CANON!!
 
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this has nothing to do with the current storyline....this page explains nothing....
 
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