[Question] Can someone explain this for me?

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Alright, I might be missing something here, but does anyone has any theories on how these dudes are alive?
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I recall Ganju was always alive, he just always sucks :sweat: Is it possible he's a fullbringer now? I know I'm late asking this question but I want to hear all of your opinions about how Tsukishima, Ginjo, and Giriko are alive? Maybe Ganju's fullbring has the ability to revive? Thoughts!
 

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They aren't alive they are in Soul Society. The Fullbringers were Humans. They died. When humans die in Bleach if they don't become Hollows they go to Soul Society. Therefore their spirits are now in Soul Society and their human bodies have died. None of the Vanderrich are alive either except for Uryu. People see the human bodies and seem to forget this takes place in the spirit world, There have only been 3 people shown in the manga to reach Soul Society in human form and they are Chad Orihime and Uryu(Ichigo was in his shinigami state when they went to save Rukia, Urahara kept his real world body safe during that time)
 
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That pic was Ganju shiba hence why he said his uncle would be mad in the page before that one. The other three died during the fullbringr arc and are now associated with Ganju for some strange reason. Which could be to fight for ichigo and his fathers side of the family and kinda stay outta the soul society's mess. Remember kukaku does not like the soul society and not does Ganju because they lost so many siblings and relatives it.

That being said expect a suprise reunion during a battle.
 
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Alright, I might be missing something here, but does anyone has any theories on how these dudes are alive?
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I recall Ganju was always alive, he just always sucks :sweat: Is it possible he's a fullbringer now? I know I'm late asking this question but I want to hear all of your opinions about how Tsukishima, Ginjo, and Giriko are alive? Maybe Ganju's fullbring has the ability to revive? Thoughts!
Same as what the other guys have said. They died as humans and are now spirits. An even more difficult question is; how are they in the soul society when they should have gone to hell for all the sins they committed?
 
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Same as what the other guys have said. They died as humans and are now spirits. An even more difficult question is; how are they in the soul society when they should have gone to hell for all the sins they committed?
They were absolved by the ever forgotten Konso
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They let them Hollow out then kill them absolving their sins then Konso them.
 

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they were never killed... only defeated... the only one that messes my mind is ginjou... cause supposedly ichigo buried him or smthing but the others is perfectly normal....
Tsukishima died from his wounds around chapter 479(proving hard to find a scan now that Bleach is getting licensed in a lot of sites but this wikiA site has chapter sources.
Ginjo died by Kurosaki and Kurosaki came back for the body from Soul Society so yes he did die.
Giriko's corpse is discovered by jackie who buries it around chapter 478
 
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What I don't understand is: how come Kugo is in Soul Society? Since he died with Shinigami powers, he should've gone to the Living Realm. Cause when a Shinigami dies, their soul turns into a humans. So after he died, he should've become a legit human, but instead, his soul goes to Soul Society.
 

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What I don't understand is: how come Kugo is in Soul Society? Since he died with Shinigami powers, he should've gone to the Living Realm. Cause when a Shinigami dies, their soul turns into a humans. So after he died, he should've become a legit human, but instead, his soul goes to Soul Society.
That's right, I failed to put that together.
 

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A zanpakuto can't absolve any sins committed as a human. And they didn't have hollows inside them.
Yes it can, when a Hollow is slain by a zanpakuto that absolves the spirit of the human who transformed and reverts them back into a plus. Once a reverted, absolved plus they can then be Konso'd.

Thank you all so much! Rep for everyone :yay: So do they still have their fullbringing abilities now that they're dead?
They should, we'll have to wait and see though.

What I don't understand is: how come Kugo is in Soul Society? Since he died with Shinigami powers, he should've gone to the Living Realm. Cause when a Shinigami dies, their soul turns into a humans. So after he died, he should've become a legit human, but instead, his soul goes to Soul Society.
Kugo was a temporary Shinigami like Ichigo, except it hasn't been shown that Kugo had any Shinigami life force put into him like Ichigo. As far as we've been told he was a human with high spiritual pressure and was made a temporary shinigami. He is not technically a shinigami nor is he a part shinigami like Ichigo.
 

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Yes it can, when a Hollow is slain by a zanpakuto that absolves the spirit of the human who transformed and reverts them back into a plus. Once a reverted, absolved plus they can then be Konso'd.
You need to watch bleach more. Yes, when a hollow is slain by a zanpakuto, some of them are absolved of their sins and become spirits in the soul society. But, if they committed any sins as a HUMAN, they go to hell instead. Why do you think Shrieker went to hell when Ichigo defeated him.
 

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You need to watch bleach more. Yes, when a hollow is slain by a zanpakuto, some of them are absolved of their sins and become spirits in the soul society. But, if they committed any sins as a HUMAN, they go to hell instead. Why do you think Shrieker went to hell when Ichigo defeated him.
However, unlike most Hollows that are cleansed of all sins upon purification, Shrieker's great sins as a Human cause the gates of Hell to open and take him inside.[19] Bleach manga; Chapter 12, pages 2-13

It's because of his life being full of"great sins" murder, etc. Most of Kugos crime if not all of them were committed as a substitute shinigami, technically not in his Human form as with Ichigo substitute Shinigami leave their human bodies. If you can find someone he killed in his human body let me know along with a scan, because as far as I can recall he killed shinigami and stole their power but again not in human form. Thus making a gray area around his "sins"
 

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However, unlike most Hollows that are cleansed of all sins upon purification, Shrieker's great sins as a Human cause the gates of Hell to open and take him inside.[19] Bleach manga; Chapter 12, pages 2-13

It's because of his life being full of"great sins" murder, etc. Most of Kugos crime if not all of them were committed as a substitute shinigami, technically not in his Human form as with Ichigo substitute Shinigami leave their human bodies. If you can find someone he killed in his human body let me know along with a scan, because as far as I can recall he killed shinigami and stole their power but again not in human form. Thus making a gray area around his "sins"
It doesn't matter if he was in his shinigami form or not. He was still a human at the end of the day. Btw, it was never said that Ginjo was in his shinigami form when he killed other shinigami. And murder is still a sin; there is nothing grey about that.

Tsukishima's sins, I suspect, are causing the people he used his fullbring on, to eventually go insane. Ginjo even said that Tsukishima had 'broke' many people with his powers. So his sins might be in the grey area.

Giriko's sin was murdering his own wife with his fullbring. So he definitely should have gone to hell.
 
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