Can someone explain: Hashi > Tsunade (Healing)

[Umari Senju]

Senju DNA + Ashura

I was waiting for someone to bring this up. I don't think Hashi's healing abilities are that of sage mode or of Mokuton but of the special chakra of Ashura he was born with.

As far back as Part I other Shinobi noted how quickly Naruto would heal from his wounds after witnessing him fight. While this might be attributed to his Uzumaki life force lineage, it's hard to rule out the fact that both Naruto and Hashirama are Ashura Transmigrates and both seem to have exceptional self healing capabilities.

In the case of Tsunade- while Hashirama has a powerful self healing technique doesn't make him the better healer. Byakugou is not only used to heal herself, but the seal also allowed Tsnuade (and Sakura) to summon 1/10 of Katsuyu's main body.

Hashirama's healing tech may not shorten his lifespan or require a seal to use but it is not as versatile as Byakugou which, once activated, not only heals the user of wounds instantly but seems to improve the very abilities of medical jutsu such as summoning a large portion of Katsuyu.

Also keep in mind that while both Sakura and Taunade were using Byakugou, they also had their chakra tied directly into Katsuyu who was currently drawing in their chakra to remote heal most of the alliance. Hashi was only fighting Madara at the time he used his healing.

So overall Hashi>Tsunade

In terms of healing Taunade > Hashi

 

[Jokule67]

I didn't say that. I said that he was healing the chakra disturbance ... but, lost the battle. We saw Naruto accomplish that when Kurama's surge of chakra restored his pathways. It can be done with healing.

Posted it on the previous page.

See I would agree with that if not for two things.

1. Are you sure he aimed for chakra points? I dint think that matters since noone can even touch then without being binded. I'm not sure you are even sure how they function. But I am pretty certain it does not function as a hyuuga strike.

2. Dont you think its the same as Black Zetsu's functioning? Or kaguyas when she touched them? The Black rods are for paralyzing through binding power not chakra points. Thats a Byakugan thing.

They dont have any correlation with healing. Hashirama could easily heal those wounds if not fir the binding power of 5 or more of things sticking in his back. Naruto broke out if such a binding power through sheer will and power against Kaguya

And I am most certain that Tsunade cannot overcome the black rods binding or Black Zetsu's either.

 

[Jokule67]

I was waiting for someone to bring this up. I don't think Hashi's healing abilities are that of sage mode or of Mokuton but of the special chakra of Ashura he was born with.

As far back as Part I other Shinobi noted how quickly Naruto would heal from his wounds after witnessing him fight. While this might be attributed to his Uzumaki life force lineage, it's hard to rule out the fact that both Naruto and Hashirama are Ashura Transmigrates and both seem to have exceptional self healing capabilities.

In the case of Tsunade- while Hashirama has a powerful self healing technique doesn't make him the better healer. Byakugan is not only used to heal herself, but the seal also allowed Tsnuade (and Sakura) to summon 1/10 of Katsuyu's main body.

Hashirama's healing tech may not shorten his lifespan or require a seal to use but it is not as versatile as Byakugou which, once activated, not only heals the user of wounds instantly but seems to improve the very abilities of medical jutsu such as summoning a large portion of Katsuyu.

Also keep in mind that while both Sakura and Taunade were using Byakugou, they also had their chakra tied directly into Katsuyu who was currently drawing in their chakra to remote heal most of the alliance. Hashi was only fighting Madara at the time he used his healing.

So overall Hashi>Tsunade

In terms of healing Taunade > Hashi

Hashis body is life itself lol.

 

[KidGamer65]

I was waiting for someone to bring this up. I don't think Hashi's healing abilities are that of sage mode or of Mokuton but of the special chakra of Ashura he was born with.

As far back as Part I other Shinobi noted how quickly Naruto would heal from his wounds after witnessing him fight. While this might be attributed to his Uzumaki life force lineage, it's hard to rule out the fact that both Naruto and Hashirama are Ashura Transmigrates and both seem to have exceptional self healing capabilities.

In the case of Tsunade- while Hashirama has a powerful self healing technique doesn't make him the better healer. Byakugou is not only used to heal herself, but the seal also allowed Tsnuade (and Sakura) to summon 1/10 of Katsuyu's main body.

Hashirama's healing tech may not shorten his lifespan or require a seal to use but it is not as versatile as Byakugou which, once activated, not only heals the user of wounds instantly but seems to improve the very abilities of medical jutsu such as summoning a large portion of Katsuyu.

Also keep in mind that while both Sakura and Taunade were using Byakugou, they also had their chakra tied directly into Katsuyu who was currently drawing in their chakra to remote heal most of the alliance. Hashi was only fighting Madara at the time he used his healing.

So overall Hashi>Tsunade

In terms of healing Taunade > Hashi

1. Naruto healed quickly due to Kurama.
2. Hashirama's healing is because of his vast life force and vast chakra. That's why his Mokuton is so OP.
3. Underlined is irrelevant when the official databook puts Hashirama's healing above Tsunade's. Byakugo only lets Tsunade and Sakura summon 1/10 of Katsuyu's main body because it offers them the chakra stored in the seal. Thus their total reserve skyrockets. Hashirama's chakra dwarfs both of theirs combined.
4. Already explained why Tsunade and Sakura can call on more of Katsuyu. Though you are right, Tsunade's heals as soon as damage is dealt. Hashirama (as seen through Madara) has to activate it. But the potency of the healing itself is on par at least.
5. As for the last paragraph, no. Katsuyu adds nothing to their chakra. So they used their chakra and their chakra alone to heal the alliance. Hashirama's chakra dwarfs theirs and his life force is superior and the databook states that Hashirama's healing is superior.

 

[shelke]

See I would agree with that if not for two things.

1. Are you sure he aimed for chakra points? I dint think that matters since noone can even touch then without being bound. I'm not sure you are even sure how they function. But I am pretty certain it does not function as a hyuuga strike.

2. Don't you think its the same as Black Zetsu's functioning? Or Kaguya's when she touched them? The Black rods are for paralyzing through binding power not chakra points. Thats a Byakugan thing.

They don't have any correlation with healing. Hashirama could easily heal those wounds if not fir the binding power of 5 or more of things sticking in his back. Naruto broke out if such a binding power through sheer will and power against Kaguya

And I am most certain that Tsunade cannot overcome the black rods binding or Black Zetsu's either.

1: It doesn't have to be aimed at anything as they are predominantly chakra receivers. It disrupts the flow. Chakra points are irrelevant, as there are 64 chakra points in the body, if I am not mistaken. Hence the Byakugan chakra point blocking technique.

2: I don't quite follow this point.

3: Where did I say that black rods heal (though I am guessing you worded this wrong)? No, he broke out due to the enormous surge of chakra healing his pathways. The Bijuu chakra always has an underlying healing power for the host. Always.

4: If SS can overcome TSBs, then it sure as hell can overcome a mere rod that only affects chakra at such a base level. The only point that would go in Hashirama's favour is that his chakra system was internal, hence the effects, and SS works on a seal system that lies outside the body.

Even then, TSBs have twofold effects; they completely negate the chakra and/or completely obliterate/extinguish it like Jinton. Also, Sakura showed that it is possible to use healing even when the ninjutsu and CC are affected by poison, as poison disrupts chakra flow as wel,l from the looks of it, by numbing the body.

 

[Uzumaki18]

Y'all know that the only person to ever go on a full one on one battle with madara and prevail is hashi, so i don't see how Tsunades healing could be compared to his, and An inherited gene cant be as strong as the original.