can someone clarify it?

[wanderingcactus]

I like my fanboys how i like my fans, very salty

 

[shadowcb]

People are just mad that Naruto turned out to be a very powerful and skilled ninja even thought most of the manga he was nerfed (9 tails made it harder for him to control his chakra, skills, and power) and he doesn't' have eye jutsu that automatically gives him jutsu and ability. He has the body power. Yes, it does gives him ability, but he sill has to learn how to use it and master it's power. They don't believe that RSM can equal rinnegan even though it give his universal knowledge.

Naruto was
Saved by Sakura in the last because the genjutsu was of high potinence. High level of genjutsu broken by a jin was MS but that only seems to be the case with inexperienced MS users. Naruto couldn't block IT as well, his skill isn't on par.

That's false. The movies never showed us that Naruto couldn't break free form genjutsu. Sakura releasing Naruto is not evidence he couldn't free himself. Naruto never stated he couldn't defeat it and he never tried to defeat it. In fact, we didn't any see the 9 tail at that time. Why didn't Naruto try to release the genjutsu? That's because he was too busy manipulating the genjutsu. Alot of people missed that because they were too busy focusing on what Naruto didn't do throughout the movie instead of what he did do.

Let's look at the facts to support my statement. When they entered the lake it place the group in a genjutsu. That genjutsu placed each team member in their own world made up of their past. Naruto was able to exit his world and enter Hinata's world. Naruto was able to freely move throughout her world. That's clear proof he was manipulating the gentjutsu, if not he would have still be in his world instead of her's. When Sakura released the genjustu Naruto was still exploring Hinata world. We can see from that, Naruto didn't release the genjutsu himself because he was ready to leave the genjutsu.

Sasuke stating Naruto can't handled IT is not evidence Naruto can't it. Sasuke doesn't know all of Naruto's ability.

 

[Sasukeisoursavior]

Naruto, even as a perfect jin couldnt repel IT.

Sasuke saved him.

 

[Dantee]

People are just mad that Naruto turned out to be a very powerful and skilled ninja even thought most of the manga he was nerfed (9 tails made it harder for him to control his chakra, skills, and power) and he doesn't' have eye jutsu that automatically gives him jutsu and ability. He has the body power. Yes, it does gives him ability, but he sill has to learn how to use it and master it's power. They don't believe that RSM can equal rinnegan even though it give his universal knowledge.



That's false. The movies never showed us that Naruto couldn't break free form genjutsu. Sakura releasing Naruto is not evidence he couldn't free himself. Naruto never stated he couldn't defeat it and he never tried to defeat it. In fact, we didn't any see the 9 tail at that time. Why didn't Naruto try to release the genjutsu? That's because he was too busy manipulating the genjutsu. Alot of people missed that because they were too busy focusing on what Naruto didn't do throughout the movie instead of what he did do.

Let's look at the facts to support my statement. When they entered the lake it place the group in a genjutsu. That genjutsu placed each team member in their own world made up of their past. Naruto was able to exit his world and enter Hinata's world. Naruto was able to freely move throughout her world. That's clear proof he was manipulating the gentjutsu, if not he would have still be in his world instead of her's. When Sakura released the genjustu Naruto was still exploring Hinata world. We can see from that, Naruto didn't release the genjutsu himself because he was ready to leave the genjutsu.

Sasuke stating Naruto can't handled IT is not evidence Naruto can't it. Sasuke doesn't know all of Naruto's ability.

Naruto was manipulating the genjutsu? Or maybe the genjutsu was simply manipulating him and Hinata better than you think. Naruto couldn't break out because he was stuck inside of it, Kurama must have also been effected. Feats of perfect jins being able to escape IT? because the only thing that can apparently break out of rinnegan genjutsu is another rinnegan by manga facts. Even a perfect jin was subdued by Obito when having access to the gedo. The only time when a tailed beast can break its user from genjutsu is when the tailed beast is unaffected.

 

[Retsu]

Naruto was manipulating the genjutsu? Or maybe the genjutsu was simply manipulating him and Hinata better than you think. Naruto couldn't break out because he was stuck inside of it, Kurama must have also been effected. Feats of perfect jins being able to escape IT? because the only thing that can apparently break out of rinnegan genjutsu is another rinnegan by manga facts. Even a perfect jin was subdued by Obito when having access to the gedo. The only time when a tailed beast can break its user from genjutsu is when the tailed beast is unaffected.

Rinnegan genjutsu is a nonfactor otherwise sauce would have caught naruto with the bijuu at vote 2 and obviously it must be weaksauce since sasuke never bothered with it even when his wife and daughter were in danger. The only place rinnegan genjutsu means anything is a fanboys wet dream. I will say that sauce makes a damn good nanny though

 

[Dantee]

Rinnegan jutsu is a nonfactor otherwise sauce would have caught naruto with the bijuu at vote 2 and obviously it must be weaksauce since sasuke never bothered with it even when his wife and daughter were in danger. The only place rinnegam jutsu means anything is a fanboys wet dream. I will say that sauce makes a damn good nanny though

Lol maybe you missed the part where his powers were even weakened and it wouldn't be the 1st time Sasuke could have used something to easily kill an opponent but plot restricted. Rinnegan genjutsu can be used even without eye contact is over powered. It caught all tailed beast in a single moment but you think it's useless? Sasukes eyes prowess single handedly avoided the most powerful jutsu on the planet. stay salty.

 

[Retsu]

Lol maybe you missed the part where his powers were even weakened and it wouldn't be the 1st time Sasuke could have used something to easily kill an opponent but plot restricted. Rinnegan genjutsu can be used even without eye contact is over powered. It caught all tailed beast in a single moment but you think it's useless? Sasukes eyes prowess single handedly avoided the most powerful jutsu on the planet. stay salty.

Yet he couldn't stop shin with it once, rinnegan jutsu=fanfic jutsu. Solo glance apparently left with narutos gudodamas.

 

[Guitar Hero]

Seems like fapboys got rustled big time.

 

[Dantee]

Yet he couldn't stop shin with it once, rinnegan jutsu=fanfic jutsu. Solo glance apparently left with narutos gudodamas.

So now manga feats are fanfic? Did Sasuke lose his rinnegan or did something happen that I don't know about.

 

[Retsu]

So now manga feats are fanfic? Did Sasuke lose his rinnegan or did something happen that I don't know about.

Well sasuke couldn't solo glance the army of shins, and didn't place a single one under genjutsu for the entirety of the gaiden so I think it's safe to say that solo glance is gone. Either that or 3 tomoe neg diffs it. Either way it's still a non factor as naruto already negged it at vote 2.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Naruto = Sasuke (overall), that's undoubted and forms the base of this manga. And Sasuke is not stronger than Naruto in terms of power, firepower is same, both pack similar power in their respective jutsus and Avatars, and everything in their arsenal, and both have counters to every jutsu the other has. Sasuke's powers are just better, not stronger, with superior utilization and he also has a lot of other major and minor advantages over Naruto in terms of battle which gives him the edge that's all. But Naruto makes up for it through sheer will power and cooperation.

 

[Dantee]

Well sasuke couldn't solo glance the army of shins, and didn't place a single one under genjutsu for the entirety of the gaiden so I think it's safe to say that solo glance is gone. Either that or 3 tomoe neg diffs it. Either way it's still a non factor as naruto already negged it at vote 2.

Sasuke never tried to use his rinnegan on the shins. Notice how he only used the rinnegan against the leader. once he took out the leader he used basic moves against the clone army. Even withdrew from cutting the shin clone with his sword on the 1st encounter, Sasuke is not as ruthless on kids as he is with adults. Thats why he withdrew his PS or do you think he lost that as well because he didn't use it against shins. Unless Sasuke lost his rinnegan then he obviously still has rinnegan genjutsu not really debatable As for thinking 3 tomoe negging rinnegan genjutsu i can see why NAruto fanboys are looked down on.

 

[Retsu]

Sasuke never tried to use his rinnegan on the shins. Notice how he only used the rinnegan against the leader. once he took out the leader he used basic moves against the clone army. Even withdrew from cutting the shin clone with his sword on the 1st encounter, Sasuke is not as ruthless on kids as he is with adults. Thats why he withdrew his PS or do you think he lost that as well because he didn't use it against shins. Unless Sasuke lost his rinnegan then he obviously still has rinnegan genjutsu not really debatable As for thinking 3 tomoe negging rinnegan genjutsu i can see why NAruto fanboys are looked down on.

Putting them all in genjutsu would have been the humane way to stop the fight but I see you're going to make excuses regardless. Sasuke even called naruto soft for holding back with the shins, obviously he no longer has solo glance. Otherwise he'd have used it.

 

[Dantee]

Putting them all in genjutsu would have been the humane way to stop the fight but I see you're going to make excuses regardless. Sasuke even called naruto soft for holding back with the shins, obviously he no longer has solo glance. Otherwise he'd have used it.

Wrong where was chidori and enton variants. That doesn't mean he lost it, what about summonings? Your logic is flawed. It was unnecessary that's why he didn't use it. Theres no logically way he could've lost it. Theres no credibility behind it. Sasuke made a banter with Naruto because he was going to train them, not because he was holding back.

 

[TrollKing]

Ootsutsu ON PAR with sasuke in terms of swordmanship

Naruto equal sasuke in RAW STRENGTH in a sense of kaguya's punches and explosive power of rasenshurikenbijuudama

 

[Retsu]

Wrong where was chidori and enton variants. That doesn't mean he lost it, what about summonings? Your logic is flawed. It was unnecessary that's why he didn't use it. Theres no logically way he could've lost it. Theres no credibility behind it. Sasuke made a banter with Naruto because he was going to train them, not because he was holding back.

Get real genjutsu would have stopped the majority of ask the fights that happened, saying it was unnecessary is lol material when it could save the trouble of even having to fight. Sauce used ameno once so saying his eye needed to recharge is a lie, he could have stopped the entirety of the trouble they went thru if he'd have used the fabled solo glance on adult and baby shin. He didn't because he couldn't.

 

[shadowcb]

Naruto was manipulating the genjutsu? Or maybe the genjutsu was simply manipulating him and Hinata better than you think. Naruto couldn't break out because he was stuck inside of it, Kurama must have also been effected. Feats of perfect jins being able to escape IT? because the only thing that can apparently break out of rinnegan genjutsu is another rinnegan by manga facts. Even a perfect jin was subdued by Obito when having access to the gedo. The only time when a tailed beast can break its user from genjutsu is when the tailed beast is unaffected.

Or it could be the genjutsu lost control over Naruto and he was manipulating it. When Naruto first entered the genjutsu he was a child reliving his past in his own world just like Hinata and the others. The fact he left his genjustu world, returned to his normal age, and then freely moved throughout Hinata's world is proof he was manipulating the genjutsu. If not then he wouldn't have been able to seen thing from Hinata point of view.

You asked for feats, yet provide none yourself. The movie didn't show Naruto or Kurama failing to break out of the genjutsu. In fact, it didn't show Naruto or Kurama try to break out of the genjutsu. Instead it showed Naruto manupilate the genjutsu by being able to freely move throughout Hinata's world. While everybody else was stuck in their own world experiencing their own past.

You have no evidence that a jinchuuriki can't defeat a rinnegan genjutsu. Sasuke stating Naruto can't defeat it is not evidence. He says alot of stuff that turns out to be false. He stated Kakashi and Sakura were useless and we both saw how they helped defeat Kaguya.

You talked about Obito controlling a perfect jinchuuriki, yet you overlooked the fact he can turn a jinchuuriki into a perfect jinchuuriki. That's what he did to jinchuuriki 2 through 7. Remember he couldn't control Naruto or Killer Bee. Think about that and use some logic. If he really could control a perfect jinchuuriki then he would have controlled Naruto and Killer Bee. The fact he didn't means he can't. That mean when he was controlling and manipulating the 3 tail jinchuuriki he was not a perfect jinchuuriki. Instead, he became one became of Obito's control.

 

[Aikor]

Wrong where was chidori and enton variants. That doesn't mean he lost it, what about summonings? Your logic is flawed. It was unnecessary that's why he didn't use it. Theres no logically way he could've lost it. Theres no credibility behind it. Sasuke made a banter with Naruto because he was going to train them, not because he was holding back.

Same to Naruto too
Still Genjutsu wont work on Jinchuurikis with the exception of IT and is a rly powerful genjutsu tht is cast over the world and Sharinnegan genjutsu is a normal genjutsu..even Kurama was able to talk with tht genjutsu on meaning its actually easy to break

Again cant deny mangafacts

Genjutsu wont work on jinchuurikis

In The Last naruto and kurama never rly tried to even break out of it
He manipulated it
Plus The Last isnt even really written by kishimoto
Stay in denyal